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Title: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 12:58:44 PM
Is baiting elk even legal in washington? i know people bait deer successfully can you get the same results with elk?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Woodchuck on May 19, 2011, 12:59:26 PM
Yup legal
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 01:08:20 PM
have you ever done it or know anyone who has? i know a great elk spot an ive fingured out where they bed but they feed pretty much all over, im thinking about setting up a bait station an a blind in between the two areas? any thoughts on that?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Woodchuck on May 19, 2011, 01:16:57 PM
Apples seem to be the universal attractant if you can get a few barrels of them. Standard mineral blocks and the like seem to work okay. Oats are not a terrible choice. But apples are always my first choice for most everything.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: DoubleJ on May 19, 2011, 01:18:51 PM
Not to threadjack but, does anyone know how much lead time is needed to get elk to the feed area?  If I throw out apples and a couple bales of alfalfa 2 days ahead of time, would that be long enough for them to find it?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: dawei on May 19, 2011, 01:28:56 PM
Give it a week but check it every other day & replenish as needed.
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Post by: baldopepper on May 19, 2011, 01:38:46 PM
I don't personally do it, but forget the oats and apples and just stick out a block of salt. Bowhunters in Idaho have used this trick for years.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 01:40:55 PM
alright thanks for all the info!
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: 6x6in6 on May 19, 2011, 01:47:01 PM
Baiting with anything baled this time of year is a waste of money.
Toss a leaf of alfalfa in the field with my horses, it will still be there in August, or longer.
Why have dehydrated salad when you can have fresh greens?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: DoubleJ on May 19, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
Baiting with anything baled this time of year is a waste of money.
Toss a leaf of alfalfa in the field with my horses, it will still be there in August, or longer.
Why have dehydrated salad when you can have fresh greens?

I was planning on doing it the weekend before archery opener
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: rebal69972 on May 19, 2011, 02:09:32 PM
IMO a salt block works best but it does have draw backs. it will attract everything and it can take deer and elk a while to find it. also once you place a block you pretty much have to keep it up nothing will grow in that spot for some time. like i said just my oppion
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 02:13:38 PM
what exactly do you mean by "everything" ?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: rebal69972 on May 19, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
all animals need salt Ive had deer elk yotes bears many types of small game and even a few cats at my salt sight. the deer and elk frequent it the most but they all seem to share it. it my be just my area i don't know this is only my second season here in WA.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 03:05:47 PM
Me to, i normally hunt eastern washington. What part of the wet side are you in? im in 652 around orting.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 03:06:43 PM
Where would i get a salt lick, and what brand, how much?
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Post by: UBA on May 19, 2011, 03:21:56 PM
Any feed store will have them. Last one I bought was $8.00 for 50 lbs. I break them down with a maul. Works great
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: rebal69972 on May 19, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
I'm in lakewood i have 2 licks in 652 on different areas i got my salt blocks at a feed store in Tacoma and the mineral blocks at cabals. i think i paid 10 or 15 apeace for the salt and 20 for the mineral blocks. i just added the mineral blocks 3 weeks ago.  but i will tell you there are alot of hunters on here that have alot more experience then i do.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: yajsab on May 19, 2011, 03:41:46 PM
The salt will attract almost everything, including hunters for sure. :chuckle:
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 03:45:20 PM
do you know of any national forest that would be good elk and or blacktail hunting? in 652 or close by? right now im hunting on small area of private property, its not very ideal.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Woodchuck on May 19, 2011, 04:00:35 PM
Are you hunting with a rifle?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 04:15:12 PM
not for elk no archery but modern for deer.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Woodchuck on May 19, 2011, 04:54:04 PM
Hunt any general season with a rifle in a national forest then see what you think about private ground. ;) Cherish it young jedi, cherish it
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Post by: gaddy on May 19, 2011, 04:59:33 PM
well spoken woodchuck, well spoken
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 05:31:46 PM
my dad and i dont know the area hardly at all we are from eastern washington, ive been up forest service road 70 a few times, am i in the right area?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: yajsab on May 19, 2011, 05:43:08 PM
Nothing on 70.  Lots of offroaders only
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 05:46:17 PM
well what do you think about the area, this is my last year living in western washington and im just trying to get a elk or blacktail? any advice would be great!
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: rebal69972 on May 19, 2011, 06:06:23 PM
theres alot of places to hunt on the west side. are you set on hunting gmu 652 on anywhere close ?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 06:10:06 PM
anywhere close, 654, as long as its without about an hour or so?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Sneaky on May 19, 2011, 06:18:17 PM
Del's in puyallup sells trace mineral salt in a bag (granules). this makes it easier to carry to the spot/spread into the soil. They also sell apple flavored "buck and doe" feed solutions blocks. I think the apple blocks are 15 or so dollars each and the trace salt is around ten bucks.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 06:21:09 PM
alright thanks for the info sneaky
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 19, 2011, 06:37:28 PM
the elk im hunting bed on the top of a ridgeline and there is a buck that lives about a 1/4 mile away, should i put a bait station inbetween them or two seperate ones?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Hockdo7 on May 22, 2011, 08:53:57 PM
Try Buck Jam, or deer cocaine...the elk love it our here!

Elk hunt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RI-P-e1gQM#ws)
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: huntnnw on May 22, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
I dont think u can consistently pull elk in with bait till late when the snow falls and dump out alot of alfalfa
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: JLS on May 22, 2011, 11:13:40 PM
I don't personally do it, but forget the oats and apples and just stick out a block of salt. Bowhunters in Idaho have used this trick for years.

Ha, even though it's illegal in ID!
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: huntnnw on May 22, 2011, 11:17:48 PM
and how many guides in ID do this?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: JLS on May 22, 2011, 11:24:03 PM
None, I'm sure....
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Post by: Button Nubbs on May 23, 2011, 06:15:29 AM
I just set out 2 sites with cams. Each had a 50lb bag of wet cob one had a 50lb selenium block and the other a 50lb trace mineral block. They are both between feeding and bedding areas next to water on some heavily used trails. I let ya know how they work in a couple weeks when I check the cams.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: baldopepper on May 23, 2011, 07:15:23 AM
Hunting over Salt licks is illegal in several states, but in many states (Idaho and Utah for sure) sheep men put out tons of salt to keep the sheep herds somewhat in order (not unusual in both those states to go into the back country and run into herds of 3,000 - to 4000 sheep!)  I once trailed a herd of elk about 7 miles and they were bee lining straight to a  salt lick.  Elk love the stuff-just a personal thing, but I'm opposed to baiting of any type for elk or deer.  Lots of bow hunters in particular in those 2 states don't put out the blocks themselves, they just find one that the sheepmen have put out and the elk are also using.  Not accusing anyone, but guides in both those state have a pretty good idea where the salt licks are in their area.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Matt on May 23, 2011, 07:38:56 AM
I have 6 licks that I put out in my area.  I use 50lb bags of SE-30 Sellenium/mineralsalt.  The elk do not come into these like bait but it does keep them in the area.  If the weather is hot they will hit them regularly.  But usually by opening day it cools off and they don't want it as much.  They stomp it into the ground and will come back to them each spring.

I don't use a block for 2 reasons.  First and foremost it is too easily seen by other hunters and will gain their attention for a place to hunt.  Second is a group of elk can move a block a long ways especially if it's on a hill.  Like it has been said before a good salt lick will attracted every animal around.  You can get some cool pictures if you put a trail camera up.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: DoubleJ on May 23, 2011, 02:20:34 PM
What's going to be the best bait to put out Sept. 1 for the archery opener then?  I can't get to my elk spot before then
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: DoubleJ on May 25, 2011, 10:16:01 AM
Bueller?   Bueller?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 13, 2011, 07:13:52 PM
thought id report on my findings. 3 weeks ago i put out a 50lb trace mineral block and a 50lb selenium block, each had a 50lb bag of wet cob spread around it. the elk at the first site didnt touch the cob but had a bull and a cow come in to lick the selenium block. also had a couple pass by on the trail and not even look in that direction. at the second site i had some cows that ate a little cob but they were digging on the 50lb trace mineral block. i had one cow stay for over an hour and a couple others stay for 1/2 hr. also had a bull come in a lick it and another bull just walked by on the trail. the cows are loving the minerals right now. one mistake i did make was i put the cob around the blocks in a blair witch lookin circle, it mostly just sat  there and rotted. if i put cob out again it will be in a feeder. theres my expierence. as august come tho i will be dumpin some apples! :chuckle:
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Elkrunner on June 14, 2011, 11:34:20 AM
pics?
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 14, 2011, 12:37:21 PM
The pic in my avatar is a bull that was licking the trace minerals
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: rebal69972 on June 14, 2011, 12:48:46 PM
OK guys stop hoggin all the fun. just joking kinda. i have salt and mineral blocks out and they've been set for over a month i also put out 50 lbs of apples out 2 weeks ago and all i got were 3 deer, a doe and fawn they stopped at the salt but didn't touch the apples and the other was a small buck i think and it didn't even stop. other then the deer a got few yotes. what am i doing wrong or have i just not given it enough time
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Button Nubbs on June 14, 2011, 01:05:22 PM
:dunno: I started getting pics within a couple days of putting them out. I had close to 250 pics of elk but only 1 pic of a deer and about 200 pics of a damn raven. :bash: maybe try a different spot? Maybe the deer just don't like the salt but they should have been chowin on those apples. :dunno:
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: rosscrazyelk on June 14, 2011, 02:07:24 PM
I have seen guys in Idaho carry bags of salt and just spray it around.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: kalamasasquatch on July 07, 2011, 01:42:32 PM
our feed store sells redmond rock salt. its a solid natuarl chunk of salt and trace minerals. packing a few into my hunting areas and setting up trail cams.....pics to come!
Title: baiting elk
Post by: WASHBCBOOK on July 07, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
Let me say this apples
Work great u need to deploy trailcams and find spot were they are going and coming
I thought they wouldn't go back all the time like deer do they will once they find 50 gallons week is nothing
I also found out the bulls take over a bait pile running deer and others off!!!
Remember baiting elk deer once u start do not stop you'll have fun
Title: baiting elk
Post by: WASHBCBOOK on July 07, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
Elk and deer also love salt blocks
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: huntnnw on July 07, 2011, 09:52:10 PM
Thing with apples... u have to have a reliable source of getting ALOT and then have a place where you are not killing yourself to get them to where the elk are... a herd of elk will decimate 200 lbs in a week or more. The key if your going to hunt over them is you cant let your spot go dry
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: akirkland on July 08, 2011, 05:50:40 PM
Go to your local feed store and buy blocks of salt. They sell them in fifty pound blocks and little brick size blocks. Or you can buy a fifty pound bag of salt. I use bagged salt. Seems to work just fine. Good luck.
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: outdoorstoreys on July 08, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
its great to find a site that everyone shares information. good job gents!
Title: Re: baiting elk
Post by: Daytonite on July 08, 2011, 06:07:10 PM
Trace mineral blocks seem to work well until fall.
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