Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: Jingles on May 20, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
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This is mainly directed to the reloaders that also yote hunt. Looking for opinions advise as to what you use and how much damage you get from the bullets you reload for yotes.
Specifically in a 22-250.
I currently us Sierra 55 gr spitzers and am thinking of going to the Spitzer boat tails because of the flatter trajectory any and all recommendations advice appreciated.
TIA
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I use 50g nosler b-tips in my 22-250. It is a great flat shooting bullet and has great nock down power. Not the best if you are wanting to save pelts. But if you are just wanting a flat out dead dog give them a try.
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If you reload, and want to do a lot of shooting, the "Varmint Nightmare" line of bullets sold by MidSouth Shooter's Supply are a great deal, both in price and accuracy. I've loaded and target shot the .17, .20, and .22 bullets and they are just as accurate as Hornady V-Max bullets, which to me is high praise. I haven't had occasion to shoot a coyote with them yet, but in my .17 Fireball on Ground Squirrels, they are devastating! (Even cheaper than Midway's "Dogtowns", too.)
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Unless you want marketable fur, it don't matter.
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The best bullet for a coyote is one that hits and kills the coyote
I would say either the nosler or a v-max they both killem dead just try not to hit major bones :yike:
cause that does nothing but bad things to the pelts
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:hello: To All!! I just moved here from Phoenix and I'm looking foreward to sharing stories (and lies..) with all of you. Just kidding about the lies. Here's my .02 cents on the bullets. I shoot plain old soft point bullets either Federal or Remington out of my 22-250 at those coyotes anywhere from 30 yards out to 300 yards with minimal pelt damage. They work well and are inexpensive. I like to keep it simple. Hope this info helps you out.
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I always use 55 grain V-max and full case of Varget or the 55 Nosler b-tips and a max charge of H380. I also use the Sierra Blitzkings in my .204 and they are superb!
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50 cal bmg 750 grn
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My shots are usually 100 yards or less, in my 22-250 with 55 grain Vmax I got 4 inch hole both sides, intestines and other guts laying out behind them just tore them to heck.
Carl
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I use FMJ only in my 22-250 and 223. Why spend money on bullets on a stinkin' coyote. :chuckle:
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:) Because FMJ do not kill worth a darn, I have never found an accurate one and they are dangerous, richochet, are why I do not use them.
Carl
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Thanks for the info Think I'm going to either stick with e SBT or go to the vmax as I do have a buyer for the pelts and try to keep the damage to a minimum. $25 - $35 per pelt in the round can pay for a lot of shooting
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:) Because FMJ do not kill worth a darn, I have never found an accurate one and they are dangerous, richochet, are why I do not use them.
Carl
Geeze, I shoot them through my 2 700 BDL's and my Rock River AR and don't have any problems whatsoever. The FMJ's I shoot are from HSM out of Montana and PMC's. They kill everything I shoot. :dunno:
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For my AR in .223 I like 24 grains of Hogden Benchmark with Federal gold Match Primers and 55 grain Nosler Balistic Tip. I have had about the same luck with the Hornady V max's but I just really like the Noslers. I have yet to loose a dog shooting these. Things do tend to get a little messy if you hit bone. Not a big deal to me as pelts are not worth anything around where I live. In the end, really, any bullet you can put through a coyote is a good one.
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There you go, very predictable answers.
What one guy finds, another finds the opposite.
If I was to make a prediction, it would have to be dependent upon the range/ranges that you are shooting.
Foe example, you claim to want the higher retained velocity that can be had with the use of boat tails, but if you are shooting inside 400 yards, you won't notice any measurable difference. In fact, the additional step required to make a boat tail may in deed hinder your accuracy. Funny how folks forget about that. Another fact, some boat tails are not actual boat-tails in true accuracy potential.
Nosler Ballistic Tips for example. Ballistic-ally speaking, they act and in fact are exactly a flat-based bullet. Any boat-tail advertisement is pure hype. Look at the bc of the projectile...facts don't lie.
In addition, bullets, combined with the high velocity that most shoot for with the use of the 22-250, also combined with shorter ranges will indeed either destroy pelts, or destroy certain bullets.
Your choice will also be easier to determine if you post your twist rate, barrel length, etc.
There is no true Holy Grail that we all will agree on, thats for sure.
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I hunt for pelts and the 40gr NBT works well for me out of my 22-204 and 52gr Speer HP varmint bullets work in my 223 and 5.6x50R Magnum. I just built a 22-250 but haven't done much with it yet. For the 6mm-204 and 243 I have started using Nosler 55gr Lead Free Ballistic tips, tried the 62gr VG's but they were producing big exits. It's hard to find a fur friendly bullet in 6mm. For the 250 Savage I'm going to try some 75gr X bullets that I have squirelled away.
AWS
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I'm not a pelt saver so I like bullets that leave big holes. :)
I've used Nosler BT's, Amax and Vmax in both .22cal and .243 all 3 leave nice big holes for those bang, flop, dead, shots.....
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Hey AWS what is a 22-204? Is it similar to a 222 rem mag?
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Basically it turns out to be a 222 Rem Mag Improved The shoulder is moved forward the body slightly straightened and the shoulder angle changed to 30 degrees and by using 204 Ruger brass there is no fire forming or custom dies needed. Capacity wise it is just a little larger than than the 223AI. Plus you can just re-chamber a 223 barrel and there is no set back needed. I do mine by hand and don't even take them off the action. Loaded COL is 2.41 in my rifle so it is a little long for a Sako 416 or CZ 527. I'm running 40gr NBT's at 3900-3950 out of a 22" sporter weight barrel and won the WWPHA club shoot last year with it.
I have rifles in 22-204, 6mm-204 and 25-204.
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Out off all the bullets Ive wacked yote with the 40 bt and 52 amax seem to leave the smallest or no exit hole, if you hit bone or at short range 50yds or less the 40 gr are nasty. You do need to look at how the bullet is made some vmax and bt are flat base, You really should worry about what bullet is accurate out of your gun over highest bc.
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AWS do by chance know what the case capacity is on your 22-204? It can't be much more than a few tenths more than the .223Ack. Imp.
The 223ai is 31water grains with a 40degree shoulder. The 222Rem mag. AI is 31.7water grains. A straight 204ruger is a tick under 31water grains so the 22-204 with less shoulder angle than the 222Rem mag AI would have to be reallllllly close to the same as the .223ai.
That must be a pretty hot load your using to get 3900-3950fps out of a 22in. tube and no real measurable gain in case capacity than a .223AI Would love to know what powder and how much you are using to get those #'s
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i have superb results with 36 gr. varget 55 nosler bt or 55 gr. berger neither are fur friendly, but them dogs werent either to our deer fawns.
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120 gr Nosler BT out of my 7mag. Close range, surprisingly minimal damage. However at long range, thats another story.
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I use 55 gr hornaday V-max .. out of a .223 and there is no hold over out to 300 yrds ...love them !
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I will go out on the limb and say that .204 ruger is the best coyote round if you plan on selling the skins to the fur market. I reload 35grain Bergers pushing just under 4000fps. In the past I've shot .223, .222, 22-250, .17Rem, and .243. My shots have been anywhere from 10 yards to 350 yards. 99.9% of the time you have a .20 caliber entry hole and no exit and their insides are jello. Even on a poor shot placement I've recovered ALL my coyotes, but most of the time they just tip over. My 2 cents.
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Predator Guy said keep it simple. I agree! Inexpensive ammo your gun likes is a great way to go. I use 100gr Hornaday interlocks from my .243 and that works great for me.
