Post by: Raul Duke on May 21, 2011, 10:49:24 AM
Well, I've gone out 6-7 time now ( once every 2weeks , depending on wind and weather) and have only "called-in" one yote, to about 200yrds befor it ran off.
I've been going out later in the evening befor dinner (6-7pm) and no luck. Although I'm having fun trying, I'd like a little pay off.
What is the best advise someone starting off can receive?
Is it to soon to go out and buy a MOJO critter to try and increase my odds?
When calling how long should I call?
If you use a rabitt call, do you switch to a hurt pup call , after getting no responce?
I have 2 great spots for hunting yotes. I know there out there. because the farms tell me. I've heard them and see 2.
How can I draw them in? :dunno:
Post by: jjhunter on May 21, 2011, 11:17:40 AM
Always take a good pair of binoculars and USE them. On your approach to the stand and before you start your calling sequence. You would be suprised how many coyotes see you moving into your stand. I spot a lot of coyotes on the way to the stand and before I begin a calling sequence. The location and behavior of the coyote will influence my calling approach, or, if I even call at all (sneek). This time of year, the coyotes have many mouths to feed so they can be active all day long (hunting). Peak activity times will be the first half hour of light and about 1:00 - 4:00 p.m. You can dump a lot of coyotes in May if you know what you are doing; however, it is the time of creating the new year's crop so most people leave them alone til about Sept.
Regardless of when you hunt them, you'll never extinct them :)
Post by: predator guy on May 21, 2011, 11:48:29 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on May 21, 2011, 12:04:18 PM
What about going out before dark, in the evening?
Post by: Bofire on May 21, 2011, 07:15:42 PM
Carl
Post by: Kain on May 21, 2011, 07:56:01 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59067.msg729664.html#msg729664 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59067.msg729664.html#msg729664)
Post by: Raul Duke on May 21, 2011, 10:10:22 PM
On a side note: Fox Pro Fast and Furious in on rite now. Hunting out of Connnell,WA. Outdoor channel
Post by: Raul Duke on May 21, 2011, 10:31:14 PM
Post by: littletoes on May 22, 2011, 07:05:41 PM
Make sure nobody else is calling in the area your are hunting, to include the farmers whose property you are on, and if they are, they should tell you. It would and IS harder to hunt an area that gets a ton more pressure than you think it gets. Been there, done that!
Hunted an area and learned that the farmers, their kids, and their grandkids were all calling with electronic calls on the place we were trying to hunt. The sad part was they were disappointed we didn't just come in and wipe everything out, when they had been walking and four wheeling all over the place calling everything they could try with their fox-pro's, and not having any luck.
They educated everything within hearing distance.
Post by: Raul Duke on May 23, 2011, 09:22:32 AM
On a side note, went to my new spot last (spot #2) lastnight about 8:15pm, wind in my face , full camo, (me ,son & daughter).
Sat down, glassed , looked around. waited about 15min.
Then I started out with a rabbit call. called for about 45sec, waited for about 3-4min then started to call again for another 30-40sec.
Sat and waited untill 8:45 then tried a pup in disstress call , same 45sec/wait/call
untill darkness came. NOTHING :P
I'll go out tonight to the old place. (spot #1) and see what luck I have. I
Post by: littletoes on May 24, 2011, 07:33:45 PM
Taking along 3 may be a bad deal. How old are your kids? Can they hold still? Can they keep more than quiet?
Its the human "shape" that will kill you, not just the color.
And #1, are you sure there are dogs in your area?
Post by: Raul Duke on May 24, 2011, 08:00:24 PM
Ive had the farmer tell me he sees dogs there, but I've yet to see one.
Kids: 11 & 13 they both understand that they most sit/lay perfectly still.
Q? How many times a week/month will you visit your hunting spot? I try and mix it , spot #1 first and third week of the month. Spot #2 second and third weeks. Each only once a week.
Post by: trippledigitss on May 25, 2011, 02:03:05 PM
I would say getting a rabbit decoy is an excellent idea. It will help to get them to focus on the decoy - to a fault - and help cover any of your own movement. I use a Quiver Critter - like $30 at Cabelas or online - and I swear by it. I was using it on the 1st dog I called and it didnt notice or care about me no matter how much I moved. I probably could have done jumping jacks! Seriously, I've called in more than one coyote that has busted me but still came in knowing I was right there watching it - even after spooking off - cuz it wanted that rabbit!
And keep calling. I will stop calling once I see them and watch what they do. Sometimes stopping peaks the interest and so they will keeping coming in to investigate. But I've also seen them hold up and/or lose interest when I've stopped calling. So I think its better to 'over-call' than it is to 'under-call'. Howling is a whole different ball game if you ask me. I think you can easily spook one off instead of calling it in, especially younger dogs, so distress calls are better for beginners. A lot of times they will not respond to howls vocally but will come in very carefully to investigate. I switch my calls all the time if I get no response and have called them in after 4-5 different call types and 45min.
And like already said above - wind is important too. You may get a stupid/hungry one that will come in downwind of you but not often. I dont think cover scents work worth a darn, they know something smells 'fishy' no matter what - if you ask me. So staying downwind of them is your best bet.
Keep at it - keep your eyes open, be patient and dont give up. And even if you are ready to quit your stand keep your eyes peeled and be ready to shoot when you get up to leave, they may be sitting there watching you and you didnt see them. :twocents: Good luck!
Post by: Raul Duke on May 27, 2011, 06:30:53 AM
Post by: Special T on May 27, 2011, 09:15:35 AM
Post by: trippledigitss on May 27, 2011, 09:36:31 AM
how far apart should each stand be?Considering their hearing is fantastic and a slight breeze will carry scent a lonnng ways, I would go at least a mile between stands - out in the open fields and such like on the east side. If it is thicker like over here you may get away with less but if you are calling loud I'd think they can at least hear you a mile away? I would say farther is better in most cases but you never know. You might get closer to one that was on the outer edge of your 1st stand that becomes more interested now that you are closer? :dunno:
I think I'm gonna head to my private dog hole one day this weekend. I'll let you all know if I get anything...
Post by: trippledigitss on May 27, 2011, 09:44:42 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on May 27, 2011, 10:39:30 AM
I'm going to try this out this weekend. I really hope to at least call one near. Even if I don't get a kill, just to see on come in would make it a great weekend.
Post by: trippledigitss on May 27, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Post by: littletoes on May 27, 2011, 07:26:42 PM
Sometimes you may see one run off when you move to get up, then you know you messed up and educated another one.
keep your face and hands covered. You'd be amazed how easily they see the whites of your eyes.
Its their back yard, they know when something is amiss.
Post by: trippledigitss on May 28, 2011, 12:07:07 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on May 28, 2011, 05:18:37 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on May 28, 2011, 06:36:24 PM
Post by: littletoes on May 29, 2011, 05:44:48 AM
Tripplediggets,---no worries! I'm no expert, just had a lucky streak and am nobody to give advice.
I suppose, if "we" are the "ultimate" predator, our brains our are best weapon...well at least I hope so! ;)
I would have to say my partner is there to help teach me the most about 'yote hunting, and "I" there to teach him. We iz learning from each other as we make our mistakes!
Look at the area, know what time of year it is, what are they doing out there??
Right now, they are hanging around the dens, looking after young pups, which are starting to "wonder" around outside their dens. Possibly becoming bate for hawks and such...but the last couple of kills we've made have all been males...so I figured this out quick. Females are hangin with the pups, but if you locate an active den site, and are squeeking like a mouse...maybe mama won't be able to resist??? 'Ol dad is trying to feed his family, but like 'yotes are every where, they are suspicious as hell.
Right now, fawns are dropping. And a little 'ol baby deer might just get into trouble some how, so a bit of screeming baby deer blue's might just bring something in? (maybe some folks might want to pay attention to that last part??? don't know me-self....).
BUT, don't OVERDO it....baby anything has small lungs, and not much strength...and the weaker, easier you are to kill, the easier you might just make a meal, and 'ol daddy or mommy yote might not be so afraid to come take a chance.....get it???
There's all kinds of little tricks that might make this easier too...just use your imagination, and BE PATIENT. An educated dog is something nobody is going to kill....and will raise its own pups to be just as smart....and that is something none of us want.
I like calls that I can use with hardly no air, so the sound can be soft, yet work. If I have to blow a whole lung-full to make it work...well there ain't no critter out there that a 'yote is going to tackle that is THAT loud.
Well....thats all I know, and I'm doing what I can for the learning curve..usually a 90* turn, hope I don't mess nobody up! ;)
Post by: littletoes on May 29, 2011, 05:56:17 AM
and again-don't over call, more calling don't mean more 'yotes.
Some thins ain't set in stone when hunting 'yotes....others, like good camo ARE.
Post by: Raul Duke on May 29, 2011, 08:22:37 AM
Well , last night about 8:15 the wind calmed down, and dried up all the rain. So I headed out to my spot. Got over the ridge and wind was rite in my face. I had about 30min of light, so I started calling .
Soft rabbit in disstress. I stayed until dark. Didn't see anything, or hear anything. :(
Its OK. Because I'll try my other spot tonight, and try both of them tomorrow at sunrise.
Post by: trippledigitss on May 29, 2011, 12:48:59 PM
Oh - and I thought the mommas kicked the males out of the den soon after the pups were born? I thought I remembered hearing that somewhere before but I dont if its true? :dunno:
I think out of the 10 or so dogs I've killed they have all been females 'cept for one. Which was the most recent one I got about a month ago with PredatorPro just outside of Wenatchee that I have some of the video of over on YouTube.
Post by: trippledigitss on May 31, 2011, 01:33:13 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on May 31, 2011, 05:55:14 PM
Post by: sebek556 on May 31, 2011, 06:16:24 PM
Post by: CoyoteCowboy on May 31, 2011, 09:28:15 PM
wind, calls, scent, decoy are all important. but so is hitting your target! Trippledigits knows what i am talking about. :bash:
gonna do some shed hunting with a rifle in the next few weeks. cle elum or north bend. will have my Johnny Stewart calls around my neck and look for some 'yotes.
i'll keep you all posted.
Post by: yottie on June 01, 2011, 10:00:58 AM
Post by: Bofire on June 01, 2011, 10:21:10 AM
Carl
Post by: trippledigitss on June 01, 2011, 10:43:20 AM
Tripledigitss......I've heard or read that late summer or early fall the males leave the pack and females stick with it. and also no matter where you get info on coyotes, the amount of newborns is 2 to 12 pups. thats quite a spread. I'm sure it matters where, health of parents,food sources,etc. be nice to know what the average is.
Yeah I know - I never know what to believe! But thanks for that info! I've also heard that ky-oats mate for life? SO if they leave they must come back to the same female? Or is that wolves I am thinking about?
Well thats a good thing isnt Bofire? Hey - did you get set up with that other guy in Yelm looking for an "urban yote hunter"?
Post by: Arrowhead on June 02, 2011, 05:12:37 PM
Always try to have a solid backstop behind you, to break up your outline, and also to block you from something coming in behind you unheard. Had dogs come in right beside me within arms distance many times. Here in the western wet side, you had better take into consideration the bears and cougars also. You will fill your pants quickly when a big Tom is standing 5 feet behind you, staring you down, and you never even heard him coming! Really gets the ol heart pumping let me tell ya.
Post by: trippledigitss on June 03, 2011, 08:51:46 AM
Post by: str8meat on June 03, 2011, 09:33:43 AM
Post by: trippledigitss on June 03, 2011, 09:43:53 AM
Post by: str8meat on June 03, 2011, 10:10:57 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on June 03, 2011, 02:05:19 PM
Went up to Sportmans Warehouse in Kenniwick today and picked up some goodies.
MOJO Critter
Knight & Hale: BT Prey Blaster (call)
Winchester Ballistic Silver Tip .243 55gr (since I've been using my sons rifle & Reloads for Deer).
As I drove threw the Yakima Valley. All I could think of know , was how many spots there are to hunt once you get into & past Prosser,WA. Might have to expand my area , and start knocking on doors that way.
Post by: littletoes on June 09, 2011, 08:20:57 PM
Tripledigitss......I've heard or read that late summer or early fall the males leave the pack and females stick with it. and also no matter where you get info on coyotes, the amount of newborns is 2 to 12 pups. thats quite a spread. I'm sure it matters where, health of parents,food sources,etc. be nice to know what the average is.
Yeah I know - I never know what to believe! But thanks for that info! I've also heard that ky-oats mate for life? SO if they leave they must come back to the same female? Or is that wolves I am thinking about?
Well thats a good thing isnt Bofire? Hey - did you get set up with that other guy in Yelm looking for an "urban yote hunter"?
I think he means that, as the litter grows (he is describing this as a "pack"), the males will either leave, or be driven off by the alpha male/female, to make room for the up-coming "pack"....new arrivals that is! ;)
I've seen several times, an additional female hangin' with the "alpha" male/female. I think they are allowed to stick around, just for the additional help.
Post by: Raul Duke on June 10, 2011, 07:08:46 AM
Got a smoking deal on it. Can't wait to go try it out this weened. :IBCOOL:
By the time Coyote Madness comes around this year. I WILL BE READY!
Post by: trippledigitss on June 10, 2011, 08:35:06 AM
Super excited! I came across a Ruger M77 .22-250 last night. Had a customer that was leaving town, headed to Montana. Started to chit chat, about "great hunting over that way" . One thing leads to another blah blah blah... coyotes..blah blah blah.. rife... "How much would you give me for it"
Got a smoking deal on it. Can't wait to go try it out this weened. :IBCOOL:
By the time Coyote Madness comes around this year. I WILL BE READY!
Cool - hope you knock one down with it - good luck!
Post by: littletoes on June 10, 2011, 06:25:14 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on June 11, 2011, 06:44:08 AM
Clean it before you go....'ya just never know how "other" folks treat their guns! :tup:
WOW, you where dead on. I pulled out my cleaning kit and I was shocked how nasty the rags where coming out. That might of been the 1st time its ever been cleaned.
After that, went to fire off a few shots. This rifle is a tack driver!
Post by: littletoes on June 11, 2011, 06:55:19 AM
Find an old Marine, he'll teach you how to clean a gun, that's for dang sure. And if you get it wrong, you might get a smack till you get it right! :tup:
Post by: one-eyed Ross on June 21, 2011, 08:14:03 AM
When my son was taking the firearm safety course, the instructor had the gall to say that the military over cleans their rifles....HUH?
Of course, I didn't say that when he was in the Army, they used corrosive ammo, so of course they had to clean it a lot and clean it well....when I was in the Army, we made SURE they were clean...real clean
And a clean rifle is a happy rifle.
Post by: Raul Duke on June 22, 2011, 08:14:29 AM
Post by: predatorpro on June 23, 2011, 09:04:19 PM
Here is a little tip:
Always take a good pair of binoculars and USE them. On your approach to the stand and before you start your calling sequence. You would be suprised how many coyotes see you moving into your stand. I spot a lot of coyotes on the way to the stand and before I begin a calling sequence. The location and behavior of the coyote will influence my calling approach, or, if I even call at all (sneek). This time of year, the coyotes have many mouths to feed so they can be active all day long (hunting). Peak activity times will be the first half hour of light and about 1:00 - 4:00 p.m. You can dump a lot of coyotes in May if you know what you are doing; however, it is the time of creating the new year's crop so most people leave them alone til about Sept.
Regardless of when you hunt them, you'll never extinct them :)
Post by: Raul Duke on July 16, 2011, 08:52:11 PM
Seen 2 yotes as I drove up, and 1 more as I was leaving. Gotta start looking for more spots.
Still have not popped my 1st yote. Been laying low.
:peep:
Post by: littletoes on July 17, 2011, 07:16:18 AM
:yeah:
When my son was taking the firearm safety course, the instructor had the gall to say that the military over cleans their rifles....HUH?
Of course, I didn't say that when he was in the Army, they used corrosive ammo, so of course they had to clean it a lot and clean it well....when I was in the Army, we made SURE they were clean...real clean
And a clean rifle is a happy rifle.
Well, ask a competent gun smith, he'll tell you more barrels are worn out by cleaning rods, than they ever were by bullets.
Its not "over-cleaning", if you will, its IMPROPER cleaning!
Many folks don't use a bore guide, and the rod ends up "rubbing" on one side of the barrel, "wearing-out" the rifling in one area.
You can see this with a bore scope.
Hence "over-cleaning".
Post by: coyotemadness on July 17, 2011, 08:19:20 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on July 17, 2011, 09:16:27 AM
Well, ask a competent gun smith, he'll tell you more barrels are worn out by cleaning rods, than they ever were by bullets.
Its not "over-cleaning", if you will, its IMPROPER cleaning!
Many folks don't use a bore guide, and the rod ends up "rubbing" on one side of the barrel, "wearing-out" the rifling in one area.
You can see this with a bore scope.
Hence "over-cleaning".
witch gun cleaning kit do you recomand? I picked up a OTiS Technology kit. Seems like a good kit, complete and compact. My freind came over and seen it on my desk. "hope your not using that for your rifles" "well atleast not the wire brushes , they'll ruin the barrel"
Is this true?
Post by: littletoes on July 17, 2011, 04:25:32 PM
I like Dewey cleaning rods, with Sinclair rod guides.
http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/cid=5560/Products/Rod_Guides_Bore_Guides (http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/cid=5560/Products/Rod_Guides_Bore_Guides)
I use either Shooter's Choice alone, or mixed with a slight amount of Kroil.
The belief is that the Kroil leaves a minute amount of lubricant in the micro-fractures in the barrel steel, thus preventing it from clogging with copper.
I personally think there is something to this, and it shows in how easily my factory barreled rifles shoot, and how easily they clean.
Phosphorus Bronze cleaning brushes are the only ones to use on rifle barrels, WITH a good bore guide, and a good cleaning solvent, such as Shooter's Choice.
At this time let me say; NEVER mix Shooter's Choice with "SWEETS", as a matter of fact, don't use Sweets on ANY guns, its prone to cause pitting on the inside of your barrel, especially if mixed with Shooter's Choice, or if it gets any moisture down the tube (like what might happen to a hunting rifle during elk season!).
This could get LONNNG! So maybe I better stop now??? ;)
Post by: Raul Duke on July 17, 2011, 05:31:49 PM
Thanks for the advise :tup:
Post by: RadSav on July 19, 2011, 06:40:54 PM
200 yard hold ups and then bust. This is very common in predator hunting. Seems to be the range at which voice and movement are detected. I can't remember how many times dogs have busted us at that range when partner hunting. Usually right after my partner says, "There's one!" followed by, "There he goes!" Develope your own sign language and don't say a word inside 250 yards.
Head net, face paint or blinds are a must. Even more important is gloves. I don't have very good eyesight and I can see a guys white hand putting "Shake" into a call from about 300 yards. I flew over Satus Reserve one year in a bush plan during goose season. White faces were popping up everywhere to look/cuss at us. Startling how visible they were at that elevation.
The most important thing I was taught when I first started competition hunting yotes was to know the size of the food you are trying to be. At longer distances you need to get their attention and you can act as big and loud as you need to. But, once they start getting closer you no longer want to sound like a 300# rabbit being killed by an 800 pound bigfoot. You're a 2 pound or less rabbit with very small lungs being slowly killed by a fox or pine martin. Short shaky bursts muffled with exhaustion, with the occasional shake from a fox to try and finish you off. Volume should raise and your cries should become more shrill and excited as you get shaken, but your energy is exhausted right after.
The first perfect calling sequence you execute will be one you remember for all time. It was every bit as climactic as the first bull elk I called in and stuck.
Good luck.
Post by: Raul Duke on October 31, 2011, 06:05:53 AM
I finalley get a day off,and a chance to hit some of my new spots. 7a.m. I get to a old road, and see a small trail going uphill to a power pole between 2 hills. I walk up to the spot, glass around and see that I got to hills on each side of me, and plenty of open ground. I set up , let out a howl. Instantly it starts a bunch of howling and barking to my left. Witch triggers more dogs to my right. I sit back wait for them to calm down. Then start my rabbit calls, pup calls, everything I had. NOTHING.
I drive down that road about 5 miles, see another spot. Walk over to it and try again. Great looking spot, sit there for about 30min, nothing. Here is my view as I was calling.
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Off to my 3rd stand. As I get to my 3rd stand, its now about 10am. I see a yote in the distance. I go set up about 600yrd behind it wind in my face. I call and there pops out another yote. They never come to me, but are interested in something that is where they are standing. I try a pup in disstress. One dog hears it and runs off. (?) The other one just sits there and stairs, then walks off as well.
Had 1 other stand like this. Fun day, but I'm getting frustrated.
Stand 3 & 4
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Post by: Raul Duke on October 31, 2011, 06:25:29 AM
At it again, this time I got help. My 11yr old daughter Brianna wanted to tag along. So we are off to a new stand. On are way there I almost hit a yotie that ran across the road in front of us. I get there, and we start walking in at sunrise. As I get to a spot that I think looks good. I see movement. BUSTED! About 80yrds in front of me a yote has been spooked , and is running away. We sit there and wait about 15min. Lets see what happends. I start with the rabbit calls. (wait) Try again. Switch to a long howl. This gets a reponce. A yote starts barking like we just crossed his turf. I do another howl , and it triggers more yotes. We play this game for about 15min, but nothing ever comes to view. We leave this spot.
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After a little hot coco, we go to one spot where I had seen dogs a couple days ago. Again as I drive in, there is a yote about 200yrds off the road. I drive past him, into a corn field and park. We jump out circle around and set up. I can see the dog, and it has a small animal in its mouth. I start calling, wait, call, wait, switch calls, wait, wait, call. Screw this. I let off a pup call, and tell my daughter, There just not interested.
As I got to get up, I see movement threw a bush on my left. :yike: 2 yotes about 100yrd from us. They must of been behind us. They stall, take a few more steps towards us, start circling in front of us to get are wind. I slowly sit up and the first one darts. GONE! The second one slowly starts walking back to the left and I can't set up my sticks. I'm now shaking, looking, shaking, and see a third yote walk up to where the other 2 where standing. BOOM! tag her, back to the other yote,, never got a shot at that one. I look back at my yote, and she is trying to get up. I fire another shot to finish her off. I missed :chuckle: so much adrenaline, shoot 1 more . She is done MY FIRST YOTE THAT I CALLED IN. :IBCOOL:
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Coyotes came in and sat on this little hill.
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she wanted to help
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25lbs female, .22-250 What a great day.
Post by: trippledigitss on October 31, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
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Post by: Heredoggydoggy on October 31, 2011, 11:55:57 AM
Post by: Swannytheswan on November 01, 2011, 05:38:01 AM
http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/library/wldlf2/c400.pdf (http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/library/wldlf2/c400.pdf)
Post by: Raul Duke on November 01, 2011, 07:21:58 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on November 17, 2011, 10:15:07 AM
Went out this morning, and followed some tracks in the snow back to 2 dens, on the side of a hill.
I didn't disturb anything, but as I walked away. I got to thinking. Do I set up about 100yrds away and call? Do I just leave it as it be, so I dont run them off?
Post by: Special T on November 17, 2011, 10:21:08 AM
Post by: trippledigitss on November 21, 2011, 01:28:55 PM
What should you do, when you find a den?
Went out this morning, and followed some tracks in the snow back to 2 dens, on the side of a hill.
I didn't disturb anything, but as I walked away. I got to thinking. Do I set up about 100yrds away and call? Do I just leave it as it be, so I dont run them off?
I've wondered that too. I always wonder if they are even in there or if its an old one, but in your case its sounds like they were in there for sure. I have set up about 150+ yds away and called but nothing ever came out. I even shot at the ground next to the den thinking it may "smoke" them out. Didnt work..... :bdid:
Post by: Special T on November 21, 2011, 04:15:45 PM
Post by: trippledigitss on November 21, 2011, 04:34:02 PM
you can't smoke a coyote out... Dens are thier defensible castle they won't leave no matter what.
well good thing I didnt go for Plan C - reach in there and grab their @$$! :chuckle: :DOH:
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on November 21, 2011, 04:36:50 PM
Post by: predatorpro on November 21, 2011, 05:04:07 PM
you can't smoke a coyote out... Dens are thier defensible castle they won't leave no matter what.not all coyotes stay in them! i know they will leave drain pipes!! and you dont need smoke for that! thats just what i have heard tho.... :chuckle:
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on November 21, 2011, 05:24:49 PM
you can't smoke a coyote out... Dens are thier defensible castle they won't leave no matter what.not all coyotes stay in them! i know they will leave drain pipes!! and you dont need smoke for that! thats just what i have heard tho.... :chuckle:
Heck, no need to burn them out--just put a burrito at the den entrance......... Oh, that kind of Coyotes..... :sry:
Post by: trippledigitss on November 21, 2011, 05:52:10 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :lol4:you can't smoke a coyote out... Dens are thier defensible castle they won't leave no matter what.not all coyotes stay in them! i know they will leave drain pipes!! and you dont need smoke for that! thats just what i have heard tho.... :chuckle:
Heck, no need to burn them out--just put a burrito at the den entrance......... Oh, that kind of Coyotes..... :sry:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on November 21, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :dunno:What should you do, when you find a den?
Went out this morning, and followed some tracks in the snow back to 2 dens, on the side of a hill.
I didn't disturb anything, but as I walked away. I got to thinking. Do I set up about 100yrds away and call? Do I just leave it as it be, so I dont run them off?
I've wondered that too. I always wonder if they are even in there or if its an old one, but in your case its sounds like they were in there for sure. I have set up about 150+ yds away and called but nothing ever came out. I even shot at the ground next to the den thinking it may "smoke" them out. Didnt work..... :bdid:
Post by: Raul Duke on December 01, 2011, 05:33:28 PM
went 54-0 , yes, 54 stands, and ZERO kills. :o I hit a total of 15 diffrent locations, some I only went to once, others where spots I regularly see yoties. Well here are some pics from my hunts. Wish I had pics of dead yotes. Feel like I'm letting my "Team" down, sice I can't carry my own weight. Just have to hit it hard this month. Got alot of new gorund to check out.
Maybe Next Time!
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Think this pic, shows what might of been part of my cold streak.
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Post by: wraithen on December 01, 2011, 05:56:31 PM
Post by: VarmintVentilator on December 01, 2011, 07:19:24 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on December 01, 2011, 07:47:57 PM
Do you mean the movement or the black and white blocks that are your face and facemask?The black face mask. Didn't realize it was so noticeable. Got a tan one now to match. When I'm sitting, I do not move untill I see a yote. Then long follow it with my eyes. I was getting up, in that pic.
Post by: Gringo31 on December 01, 2011, 08:11:57 PM
Keep at it!
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 01, 2011, 08:16:16 PM
Post by: Big10gauge on December 01, 2011, 08:34:08 PM
The guys above have pretty much summed it up. Here’s what I use to determine where to hunt and call from. You have to do you homework during the “off-season” to find the good areas, but the coyotes may be in another area depending on time of year. I was lucky enough to have a mentor for several years that breathed and lived for coyotes, mostly nite hunting but hunted quite a bit during the day, Unfortunately his health has become terminal. I’ve seen pictures of him with his pickup full of coyotes just from a weekend hunt and a 400yrd shot to him was a “gimme”. That was back in the 60’s and 70”s. Anyway back to the topic.
1. Coyotes: Needs to be a fairly good concentration of coyotes in area, this will change depending on time of year. Now knowing how to find those areas you gotta know what is going to make a coyote stay in those areas.
2. Approach: Needs to be quiet and not visible and not with the wind blowing from you into your calling area. No excess movement including glassing for coyotes, that's for at the end of the set
3. Calls: Well everybody has their favorite, I think call duration/sequence is probably a more important factor than type.(Unless it’s mating season, then good luck)
4. Calling: Should be dictated with the weather. If the wind is blowing, call more frequently in smaller distances between sets. If it’s over 20 mph you might as well resign yourself to a slow day.(of course there are exceptions) Try to set up in a crosswind or upwind if posible.
5. Set Location: Needs to be a place where the coyote will not have an problem
coming in and you have good visibility. (You can call them across open areas, but it will reduce your chances)
6. Wind vs Terrain:I feel that terrain plays a more important part than wind direction, Unless you’re trying to get the coyote is as close as possible, coyotes usually will not circle downwind unless they are suspicious or really close. Close to us is 100 yrds.
7. Scent: Coyotes will seldom cross where you have walked in. I suppose there are exceptions but we’ve had them hit our scent many many times where we have walked and it’s like a brick wall to them.
8. Decoys: I decided not to use them for the most part, the motorized ones make too much noise, and by placing the decoy out all you are doing is making more movement.
9. E-Callers: Learn to handcall first, callers do have the advantageof getting the sound away from you.Also it takes a long time to learn to hand call vocals.
10. Movement: During calling the most important time not to move is during the actual call, that is when the coyote stops and orients on the sound. When they are moving I don’t think it is as critical as we quite often talk in low tones to each other.
11. Distance to first set:. I’ve heard people saying that you have to ease the door closed when exiting the truck and gently cycle your bolt .Well if that’s the case you are hunting way too close to your truck and any coyotes in the immediate area have already heard anything you’re going to throw at them, or know better than to come in.
12. Once you called them in you have to hit them, Take your gun(s) out and shoot at the distances you will be expecting to see coyotes and use the same set-up you will be using while hunting, Shoot from different positions, this will tell you what if any issues you will have with your set-up. We also use mildots or similar reticles. If you plan on shooting coyotes over 300 yrds, practice and practice some more. Especially on leading and shooting in a crosswind.
13. Use a rangefinder for the longer distances.
14. One more thing please treat the coyote as you would any other animal, it deserves as quick a humane death as possible, follow up your so-so hits to the best of your ability.
Frequently some coyotes can have a pattern much like us, They go to a food source (kitchen) and they travel back to their place where they feel at ease ( big recliner/couch), head out for some recreation (tavern) and then head for their sleeping area (bed) and start the process again. You have to figure out what part of their pattern they are doing on that property. Luckily they are up and about more in the colder weather and spending less time on the "couch" Pretty soon they will be spending a lot of time at the tavern hoping to get
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 01, 2011, 09:06:29 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on December 02, 2011, 06:27:48 AM
. You mentioned earlier that you've seen them but it ran off. Why? Downwind? Saw movement? Watched for a bit and split? Fill us in on more details and maybe we can get this figured out. You are in good looking country, it should be happening.
Keep at it!
Well, here we go.
Pull up at my "spot" usally parked about 1/4 walk in distance from my stand. Jump out the truck, load the shotgun & .22-250 Spray my decoy, hat, boots and geasr with "Sent-A-Way"
On stands where I have orchards, vinyards, corn fields near by I walk threw the vinyard,orchard along the side of the corn. Into my stand. Walking threw the 15-20 row, so I can't really see the hill I'm hunting. So I hope they can't see me. Get to the last row, Glass , listen , look around, from a knee position. This is usally around 6:45am , just befor sunrise.
Set out my MoJo critter, about 25-30yrds from my stand. Go back sit down, and wait untill I can see the hils, open country in front of me. About 10-15 min wait.
Start off with a howl (white lil' dog) wait a couple seconds might let out a 2nd howl (respond) with the green lil dog. Half the time I got 2 sets of youtes to responds, and start howling to my right, and another group srats responding to the left. I wait it out, and see nothing. Once everything quiets down, start with a distress call. Either a Pup, or rabbit.
Call for about 30-45sec, wait 4-5min call again , but just a little louder. wait 4-5min switch to other distress call. Do another set. Wait 10-15 min after my last set of calls, Glass everything , get up , move out.
On stands where its open country, I park off the side of a road. Then walk up hill into a Valley. Aslo atleast a 1/4 walk. This is my how my morning usally plays out. Stands can be from 2-5 miles apart. I try to have wind at my back, or left-right, right -left.
All this typing, and all I can think is, Is it sunday yet, to go try it again. :chuckle:
Post by: Jack Diamond on December 02, 2011, 06:56:43 AM
I have every year called dogs in while sitting in my pickup, while parked in a circle or around other farm equipment,only using
hand calls. it truly is not that complicated. coyotes like most animals in the east side do not really have the fear of vehicles
as they see them every day, however someone walking is an unusual sight, and they will split.
In the country I hunt the only time someone is walking is someone hunting, coyotes follow farm machinery all the time.
If I am positive there are dogs in a drainage I will only walk a minimum distance, to keep the scent trail small.
In my opinion you do not need the latest "hot" "cool" and "must have" gadgets.
Raul- if you have standing corn that you walk through, I will bet the dogs are in the standing corn.
I would rather walk the sage, and Call the standing corn, but if the corn has been cut the dogs are in the brush,ditches,drain-pipes.
been doing this for a few years, and have to think 54-0 is a bad score. Good-Luck.
Post by: Special T on December 02, 2011, 07:57:22 AM
Post by: Jack Diamond on December 02, 2011, 09:11:55 AM
Minutes.
Post by: VarmintVentilator on December 02, 2011, 11:54:14 AM
Post by: FALFire on December 02, 2011, 01:06:50 PM
Jack you are exactly right. My pickup that is parked in my wheat stubble field, they'll walk right by it. If I'm driving up through the field, they are high tailing it out of there asap.
If ya saw his pickup, you would walk right by it too :yike: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Raul Duke on December 09, 2011, 01:57:14 PM
Went out this morning, but for was just to thick. Could olny see about 60yrd in front of me. Going to try again about 3pm.
56-0
Post by: trippledigitss on December 09, 2011, 02:48:26 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 09, 2011, 03:17:18 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 09, 2011, 03:21:24 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on December 09, 2011, 04:34:32 PM
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Did a soft distress call. Stopped one for a split second. He looked around and kept going on his way.
Don't let em do that without mixing it up. I've had em act not interested, hit a different call and that was the ticket. You will learn more about coyotes by watching them react. I remember once (after I lost a heifer to coyotes) I was calling and saw several about a mile out. I spotted movement WAY out there and they were headed away and to the left. I tried a few different calls and they would stop, look for a second and continue on. As a last ditch effort I got on the Ki-Yi and they came in full throttle. :twocents:
Post by: Raul Duke on December 09, 2011, 05:32:12 PM
I'd start over with your count - I think it may be getting in your head! :dunno: Plus I think calling/seeing them still counts for something more than a ZERO even though you didnt take one down. And give yourself some credit for not taking a wild low percentage shot too! :tup:
I've seen plenty of scat, tracks, and even a few yotes. I don't let the number get me down. I guess I can start over for December. Nevertheless, its still fun even if I havn't gotten one latley. And good exersice.
CampMeat - I've been thinking about the mask. Not sure if I'll go all black, but I did pick up some snow camo. 8)
BowHunter - I've been practicing alot with my turkey diaphram, so I can use it when hunting yotes. I can do a pup in distress, and a soft howl. I also like how quickly you can change tones, and calls. When using them.
Gringo31 - I should of tried more calls. Just told myself to let them be, so I can get a crack at them some other time.
I did go back to the same spot this morning, but for was terrible. Went out this afternoon, and did seems like it almost was worse.
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Post by: trippledigitss on December 09, 2011, 08:19:06 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 09, 2011, 08:32:22 PM
I'd start over with your count - I think it may be getting in your head! :dunno: Plus I think calling/seeing them still counts for something more than a ZERO even though you didnt take one down. And give yourself some credit for not taking a wild low percentage shot too! :tup:
I've seen plenty of scat, tracks, and even a few yotes. I don't let the number get me down. I guess I can start over for December. Nevertheless, its still fun even if I havn't gotten one latley. And good exersice.
CampMeat - I've been thinking about the mask. Not sure if I'll go all black, but I did pick up some snow camo. 8)
BowHunter - I've been practicing alot with my turkey diaphram, so I can use it when hunting yotes. I can do a pup in distress, and a soft howl. I also like how quickly you can change tones, and calls. When using them.
Gringo31 - I should of tried more calls. Just told myself to let them be, so I can get a crack at them some other time.
I did go back to the same spot this morning, but for was terrible. Went out this afternoon, and did seems like it almost was worse.
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 09, 2011, 08:40:49 PM
I like a double reed call.... I can howl good but I mostly use a rabbit in distress .... If you are not sounding like a baby crying you are not calling in sheet ... :twocents: I call loud to soft to loud and once I see them I tone it down ...coyotes do not mind you screaming at them so loud does not seem to hurt at all .....I had them about run me over when coming from behind or off to my one side ...always good to have 2 hunters ...But I usually run by myself ... it will happen for you soon ... keep on going :tup:I'd start over with your count - I think it may be getting in your head! :dunno: Plus I think calling/seeing them still counts for something more than a ZERO even though you didnt take one down. And give yourself some credit for not taking a wild low percentage shot too! :tup:
I've seen plenty of scat, tracks, and even a few yotes. I don't let the number get me down. I guess I can start over for December. Nevertheless, its still fun even if I havn't gotten one latley. And good exersice.
CampMeat - I've been thinking about the mask. Not sure if I'll go all black, but I did pick up some snow camo. 8)
BowHunter - I've been practicing alot with my turkey diaphram, so I can use it when hunting yotes. I can do a pup in distress, and a soft howl. I also like how quickly you can change tones, and calls. When using them.
Gringo31 - I should of tried more calls. Just told myself to let them be, so I can get a crack at them some other time.
I did go back to the same spot this morning, but for was terrible. Went out this afternoon, and did seems like it almost was worse.
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Post by: Raul Duke on December 17, 2011, 05:31:19 PM
On the the next spot. We kept on running into alot of other hunters. Some hunting birds, others I think are also calling in the same area I'm hunting. Now I can see why such a bad streak.
Same day Stand #3 We get on a road where there hasn't been any traffic. We get set up, and start calling. I see a yote come in across from me on the next ridge over. I have the decoy set up about 30 yards in front of me. We watch the yote sit down and watch us, for about 15min. Then he gets up and walks off. I ranged him at 350yrds. I didn't shoot. :bash:
That morning we seen a total of 8yotes and a really nice Mule Deer. First time I felt drained from yotie hunting.
The yotie was at the top of this hill, across the little valley.
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you can see my MoJo critter in that pic.
Post by: Raul Duke on December 17, 2011, 05:40:42 PM
As I grabed my call, I see a yote walking to my left, about 400yrd out. I start a very soft distress call, and he stops. I wait untill he starts walking again, and do another call. He hears the call and bolts like I fired a shot at him. I don't know what happend. Wind in my face, no movement, and he jams out of there like I fired a warning shot.
Here is the view of my spot as I walked down to it.
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This is my view as I sat. Coyote came out of the left side (west) walking in a Northwest direction.
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Did one more stand that night. Then went to drink my troubles away.
Post by: Raul Duke on December 17, 2011, 05:45:33 PM
Since Nov 1, I've spent every chance I've had out calling yotes. My 11yr old daughter has been with me over 1/2 the time. After 68 stands. I got my second coyote. :IBCOOL:
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I'll have the story later tonight. After I get back from are company Xmas party.
Post by: trippledigitss on December 18, 2011, 07:39:38 PM
THE STREAK ENDS!
Since Nov 1, I've spent every chance I've had out calling yotes. My 11yr old daughter has been with me over 1/2 the time. After 68 stands. I got my second coyote. :IBCOOL:
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I'll have the story later tonight. After I get back from are company Xmas party.
:rockin: RIGHT ON MAN! Stay with it, I'm sure it wont be another 68, hopefully they start coming alot sooner! Thats weird about that one that stopped, heard the call and then bolted? Must have been called in before or saw another go down from answering a call? :dunno: Do ever try just lip squeaking once you see them?
Those pictures are so cool, looks like great areas. I wish I was closer to open areas like that. I was gonna go out this morning but my pillow just wouldnt let go of me! :chuckle:
So whats the story on the streak breaking dog?! (or shall we say streak starter? Maybe you'll go 68 in a row now?!) :dunno:
Post by: trippledigitss on December 18, 2011, 07:40:29 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on December 19, 2011, 06:33:34 AM
Get out to a spot that I've keep an eye on but never set up. I know there are yotes in there,but was waiting for snow to try calling them in.
Its my first stand of the day, and I'm sitting waiting for daylight. When the time is rite, I start my calling....
About 3 crows keep coming in to my calls. Keep circling around me, but I never see or hear any yotes. So after 20min I move on to the next one.
Pic of my First stand that day. Facing East.
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As I get close to my next stand. I see a coyote in the a field , two 80's over from where I'm going to set up. I drive into my spot and park behind some bails of hay. I set up my decoy, on the south side of the bails. Grab 2 calls, range finder, and my binos.Climb up to the top and start to glass. The yote I had seen should be to my east, witch works great since the wind is in my face.
I start calling with a soft rabbit distress and keep watching. The cows in the field in front of my start to gather and watch me. After about 10min, they jump and move off a little ways. I assume a yote got near them so I keep looking. After another 10min I switch to my other call, and start over. As I'm calling again, I look around me ,behind me, everywhere. Since in the past I've had them sneak by me in this stand. About 5min into calling , I see a spot behind me. Can't be a yote, he is down wind and can see my truck. I grab my binos and look. Son of a Buck, its a yote. I keep calling, stopping , call, stop. He starts coming in about 230yrd, then stops. He jumps a fence and disapears.
I keep calling, and hope I didn't just blow another stand. Bamb, he is back. Now he finally starts moving in. I lay down on the hay. Get my shooting sticks set up, and range a spot of frost on the ground. 180yrd. He comes in and holds up just about at the spot I ranged. Put the cross hairs on his chest , and let one off.
I see his front legs straighten out and he sits down, then flops over. I'm so excitied that 2-3min go by and I forget I have a diaphram in my mouth. I do a pup in distress call, and then just say hell with it. Get down and go see my trophy. :IBCOOL:
68 stands later and I got me a Yotie.
Here is the view I had (facing west) of coyote coming in. From top of the hay.
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This is the veiw from the yote, to where I was. You can see the truck nad he was walking down hill when I got him. Plus he was down wind from me. Someone really must feel bad for me to call one in like this.
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Second time I've called in a coyote. No better feeling. Thank you to all that have chimed in with advise and help. :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 19, 2011, 07:11:38 AM
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Post by: one shot kill on December 25, 2011, 05:16:31 PM
The 308 would be a good choice, or whichever rifle you have that is most accurate. Coyotes aren't worth anything, so it shouldn't matter much how big a hole you make.:yeah:
My dad and I both shoot 300 win mags for yotes. Dont matter much where you hit them.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 25, 2011, 05:49:43 PM
The 308 would be a good choice, or whichever rifle you have that is most accurate. Coyotes aren't worth anything, so it shouldn't matter much how big a hole you make.
My thoughts too........... :tup: I' d post a picture of a 300 mag coyote, but I think I'll skip that part.... :chuckle:
Post by: Raul Duke on December 27, 2011, 06:15:55 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on December 29, 2011, 04:43:39 PM
Is this a good thing? Bad? Or just normal? For crows to come in.
Post by: wraithen on December 29, 2011, 05:53:18 PM
Post by: trippledigitss on December 30, 2011, 08:37:39 AM
Some of the last few stands I've done, I havnt had any yotes come in. I am getting crows to come see what all the screaming is.
Is this a good thing? Bad? Or just normal? For crows to come in.
Yeah I get them to come in most of the time. They do get really obnoxious but at least they give me something to donate a round or 2 of some #4 buck to if no coyotes show up... :chuckle:
Post by: GEARHEAD on December 31, 2011, 08:43:29 PM
camo camo camo, i mean face and hands too, especially face and hands,
shooting stix
simple to use open reed, such as a medium size critter gitter. or closed read such as a Circe med/long range rabbit.
know the direction of the wind.
if ya spook one, its easy to get them to stop, just calm down dont hurry the shot, let him go, get on him with the scope, then squeal, shoot 1 second after he stops. ( keep in mind your bullet drop if over 250 yards).
its all you need, you can expand from there. get a copy of randy andersons calling all coyotes.
Post by: Raul Duke on February 08, 2012, 08:23:37 AM
QUESTION? This time of year (suppose to me pairing up). I had a situation yesterday where I was on a ridge and let off a long howl. About 200yrds to my left 1 yote responded , triggering about 3-4 on the other side of a hill about 400yrd out to start howling.
The yote on the left would let off short barks, mixed with long howls. The group on the right just long howls. Like gathering howls ( if that makes sence).
We had a little stand off of just howling to each other for about 1hr 20min. About every 15-20 it would come to a complete stop, then I would switch howlers and everything would start all over again. Not once did either group come over the hill there where behind to let me see them. At the end of it all, I went about 10min with complete silence. let off a howl, No responce, waited another 10min another howl..no responce. So I packed up and left.
Great experiance, but no kills.
What else could I do in this situation??
Post by: Elk whack master on February 08, 2012, 08:36:26 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on February 08, 2012, 08:47:09 AM
Post by: trippledigitss on February 08, 2012, 09:09:49 AM
UPDATE: 47 sets since last kill. :tung:
QUESTION? This time of year (suppose to me pairing up). I had a situation yesterday where I was on a ridge and let off a long howl. About 200yrds to my left 1 yote responded , triggering about 3-4 on the other side of a hill about 400yrd out to start howling.
The yote on the left would let off short barks, mixed with long howls. The group on the right just long howls. Like gathering howls ( if that makes sence).
We had a little stand off of just howling to each other for about 1hr 20min. About every 15-20 it would come to a complete stop, then I would switch howlers and everything would start all over again. Not once did either group come over the hill there where behind to let me see them. At the end of it all, I went about 10min with complete silence. let off a howl, No responce, waited another 10min another howl..no responce. So I packed up and left.
Great experiance, but no kills.
What else could I do in this situation??
Even though you didnt pop one that sounds really cool, like you said a great experience. I think it feels really cool when they respond to my call and you are howling back & forth with them, like you are communicating. But I have no other useful advice for you..... :chuckle:
Post by: RedDirt on February 08, 2012, 01:05:15 PM
Post by: wraithen on February 08, 2012, 06:18:14 PM
Post by: RedDirt on February 08, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
BUT never say never with coyotes , they will do some THANGS i tell ya . :o
Post by: Raul Duke on February 08, 2012, 08:12:53 PM
Post by: trippledigitss on February 08, 2012, 09:55:29 PM
Post by: prkrgrp on February 11, 2012, 08:31:39 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on February 11, 2012, 08:51:50 PM
I'm not the only one learning this. What info I've gathered, shared with my daughter and she has been with me most of the time. So it hasn't been a total waste of time. Again, thanx for the advise. :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on February 11, 2012, 09:26:16 PM
Post by: dontgetcrabs on February 11, 2012, 09:41:19 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on February 12, 2012, 06:12:44 AM
Post by: trippledigitss on February 13, 2012, 10:28:07 AM
Post by: trippledigitss on February 13, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
ok buddy, but I might be a little short on the $700 guild fee, There is a gun show next weekend and I need a AR in my safe. :chuckle:
Just FYI - I bought a Winchester safe at Costco for I think it was $400. Its a 20.5 cu ft, and 45min fire rated. It was either 3 or 4 hun, I think 4. Electronic combo, adjustable shelves. Its a great safe for the price.
Post by: Snopczynski on February 13, 2012, 11:01:39 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on February 13, 2012, 11:08:00 AM
Post by: trippledigitss on February 13, 2012, 12:40:27 PM
Guys, steer clear of the Winchester, Sentry, stack on, and Cannon entry level product. There are construction issues with the welding of those safes that most people don't know about. Very easy to break into, and not a good value. You always get what you pay for with gun safes. If you can take that Winchester back, I would. Get something with a continuous welded body, more inner door reinforcement, and a UL listed lock on it.
I'm sure its not top of the line by any means but I am really happy with it. I think its a great value for the price. The electronic lock thing does seem a little phony. My main concern was a safe place to lock up my firearms with 3 boys in the house, not so much thieves. But of course I want it to be secure in case of robbery too. But it is bolted thru the floor to a 4x10 glu lam and I doubt anyone would try & pack it out anyway. It has 10 bolts around the door but the hinges are exposed. Personally I dont think your average run of the mill burglar would be able to break into it without alot of time & effort and I dont see house thieves having that time or know how. I could be wrong. But nothing is burglar proof, not at my income level at least, if someone wants into something bad enough they will find a way. It would be a bad deal to have my guns stolen but insurance would cover them, the bad part is having more illegal guns on the "street". For the money I paid for it, it serves my needs and was a perfect starter safe. When the time comes to upgrade, and its about there, I'll look for a better quality, but I've had it 2 years now and have no regrets - so far... fingers crossed!
Post by: Snopczynski on February 13, 2012, 01:49:43 PM
I started a safe talk thread so we dont hijack this one. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=92611.msg1182784 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=92611.msg1182784)
Post by: trippledigitss on February 13, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
I mis-read and though you just got it, sorry.No thats cool, I saw the other thread. Pretty darn interesting photos!
I started a safe talk thread so we dont hijack this one. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=92611.msg1182784 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=92611.msg1182784)
Post by: Raul Duke on February 13, 2012, 02:19:42 PM