Post by: Gringo31 on June 09, 2011, 09:00:20 PM
Heard today from someone who would know......but all the water going over Grand Coulee Dam (and I've heard of this before) is creating too much nitrogen in the water and killing off lots of steelhead. A guy that works at the land fill told me that they are netting up the dead ones......the first day was today and 6 semi loads of steelhead came in to be landfilled.
Post by: vandeman17 on June 09, 2011, 09:02:37 PM
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Post by: huntnnw on June 09, 2011, 09:13:07 PM
Post by: Ridgeratt on June 09, 2011, 09:22:28 PM
what I dont get is WHY?? dont tell me theres too much water..have u seen northport?? desolate..dunno if I have ever seen it that low
LOL should make an interesting Governor's cup this month.
Along with trying to launch around the 4th
Post by: huntnnw on June 09, 2011, 09:27:46 PM
Post by: huntnnw on June 09, 2011, 09:31:36 PM
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Post by: bobcat on June 09, 2011, 09:33:14 PM
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Post by: Malottguy on June 09, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
I find it funny though is I know people who are catching lots of fish 3 pounds and up. The only pens really being affected are Pacific Seafoods (upper and middle pens) as I haven't heard if the tribes pens(lower) have been effected to the same extent. The fish that are freely swimming are moving downriver and away from Grand Coulee Dam it seems.
All that being said it is a heavy snow year, but I have never seen them lower Roosevelt to that level even on super heavy snow years, so makes one wonder when they will start filling it again.
Post by: Ridgeratt on June 09, 2011, 09:41:06 PM
L.Snook NPS
Evans boat launch.
MINIMUM BOAT LAUNCH ELEVATIONS
Crescent Bay 1265'
Spring Canyon 1222'
Keller Ferry 1229'
Hansen Harbor 1253'
Jones Bay 1266'
Lincoln Mill 1245'
Hawk Creek 1281'
Seven Bays 1227'
Fort Spokane 1247'
Porcupine Bay 1243'
Hunters Camp 1230'
Gifford 1249'
Daisy 1265'
Bradbury Beach 1251'
Kettle Falls 1234'
Marcus Island 1281'
Evans 1280'
North Gorge 1280'
Snag Cove 1277'
French Rocks 1265'
Napoleon Bridge 1280'
China Bend 1277'
Not sure I want to run the boat up the river from Kettle! A ton of playing hazards not counting everything floating.
Post by: huntnnw on June 09, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on June 09, 2011, 09:50:32 PM
what I dont get is WHY?? dont tell me theres too much water..have u seen northport?? desolate..dunno if I have ever seen it that low
It is the net pen fish dying. Reason is due to the water pouring over and affecting notrogen levels. The pen fish are shallow and like said before nearly not enough oxygen to begin with.
The owners of the pens are going to try a lawsuit. I think the dam might have been there first. :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: Ridgeratt on June 09, 2011, 09:53:34 PM
Post by: woodywsu on June 13, 2011, 10:17:28 AM
Heres a link explainign more:
http://fishbio.com/fisheries-news/regional-fisheries-news/mid-columbia-net-pen-trout-rearing-operation-taking-losses-from-gas-bubble-disease (http://fishbio.com/fisheries-news/regional-fisheries-news/mid-columbia-net-pen-trout-rearing-operation-taking-losses-from-gas-bubble-disease)
Post by: DoubleJ on June 13, 2011, 10:21:12 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on June 13, 2011, 11:34:19 AM
Why landfill them when they could sell them to somewhere like Cedar Grove Composting or Alaska Fish Fertilizer and recoup some of the losses? Dead fish are GREAT fertilizer
good idea but here is your answer...this state love to waste money..not make money
Post by: wastickslinger on June 13, 2011, 11:56:41 AM
These fish are not steelhead. There are no steelhead found above Cheif Joseph due to the lackign fish ladder. The fish are triploids dying from raised total dissolved gas (tdg) levels causing Gas Bubble Trauma (GBT). Higher tdg levels occur when there is an excess of water spilled over the spillway. Gas levels lower as they work downstream toward the next dam where they rise once again.
Heres a link explainign more:
http://fishbio.com/fisheries-news/regional-fisheries-news/mid-columbia-net-pen-trout-rearing-operation-taking-losses-from-gas-bubble-disease (http://fishbio.com/fisheries-news/regional-fisheries-news/mid-columbia-net-pen-trout-rearing-operation-taking-losses-from-gas-bubble-disease)
I was going to ask if has flying steelhead. :chuckle:
Post by: wastickslinger on June 13, 2011, 11:57:51 AM
Why landfill them when they could sell them to somewhere like Cedar Grove Composting or Alaska Fish Fertilizer and recoup some of the losses? Dead fish are GREAT fertilizer
good idea but here is your answer...this state love to waste money..not make money
They are not owned by the state, private operation.
Post by: MtnMuley on June 13, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
Post by: Ripper on June 13, 2011, 02:45:29 PM
Post by: wastickslinger on June 13, 2011, 03:06:26 PM
They sell them commercially to restaurants as "steelhead". That's why they're being referred to as steelhead. How that's legal I don't know.
Wow I was not aware of that. I would think maybe to Alpo for dog food or to Scotts for turf builder. :chuckle:
Post by: MtnMuley on June 13, 2011, 04:00:19 PM
I was on the phone today with the guy from Hooked on Toy's in Wennatchee and he said all the pens have released all the fish still alive. I guess fishing is crazy there right now.
I don't believe that for a minute. They must have done it all this morning then.
Post by: wastickslinger on June 13, 2011, 05:00:16 PM
Post by: Malottguy on June 13, 2011, 07:10:15 PM
I was on the phone today with the guy from Hooked on Toy's in Wennatchee and he said all the pens have released all the fish still alive. I guess fishing is crazy there right now.
I don't believe that for a minute. They must have done it all this morning then.
Yes they released all the fish from the lower pens, this after one of the pens broke. Reason the released is so they too would not die. Even some that work for the tribe don't understand why they released them when a couple pens were almost ready to harvest. This all happened about a week ago give or take.
YES the fishing has been damn good, though today it backed way off and took most of the day to get 3 fish for my daughter and I. So it seems to be going back to the normal fishing it has been over the last year.
Post by: MtnMuley on June 13, 2011, 07:17:52 PM
Post by: Malottguy on June 13, 2011, 08:27:44 PM
The middle set had a lot of fish doe off like the upper set had and one person said maybe Lake Roosevelt fish which I laughed at because as far as I know they don't raise trips up there and they Roosevelt fish are fin clipped.
I do agree with the poaching as I saw so much of it yesterday, but does no good to turn them in anymore. Game Dept could care less it seems. It wasn't just odd hours, it was mid day with one rod and 5 fish, but they said they were others fish umm sure