Post by: AKBowman on June 12, 2011, 07:30:28 PM
Any thoughts or pics of your setups?
Post by: Wea300mag on June 12, 2011, 07:34:27 PM
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Post by: AKBowman on June 12, 2011, 08:08:46 PM
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Post by: cld40 on June 13, 2011, 12:23:02 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Aosom-Bicycle-Bike-Cargo-Trailer-Red-Black-PickUp-Only-/250822771030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6633c156#ht_500wt_1136 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Aosom-Bicycle-Bike-Cargo-Trailer-Red-Black-PickUp-Only-/250822771030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6633c156#ht_500wt_1136)
Post by: shanevg on June 13, 2011, 03:54:56 AM
i am in the market as well, the game cart was something i was thinking of as well, looks like it worked well, this is one i have been looking at on ebay. anyone seen or had any experience with it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Aosom-Bicycle-Bike-Cargo-Trailer-Red-Black-PickUp-Only-/250822771030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6633c156#ht_500wt_1136 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Aosom-Bicycle-Bike-Cargo-Trailer-Red-Black-PickUp-Only-/250822771030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6633c156#ht_500wt_1136)
We usethat trailer for our deer camp. All in all it does pretty well, especilymformthe price. Doesn't quite hold the loads that the website claims but we just reinforced the bar that connects it to the trailer. We packed out 8 deer quarters and two heads last year with it. I will try to dig up some pics later.
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Post by: MIKEXRAY on June 13, 2011, 06:48:10 AM
Post by: funkster on June 13, 2011, 07:18:19 AM
Almost seems like there is a demand for a nice custom cart, maybe someone should get everyones input & build a few for extra cash.
www.Hawkeyebilt.com (http://www.Hawkeyebilt.com) fabs game trailers. Very nice trailers just alittle spendy at $450 most of them come with disc breaks. If you "youtube" them you can see their trailers in action.
Post by: cem3434 on June 13, 2011, 07:38:01 AM
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Post by: cem3434 on June 13, 2011, 09:16:05 AM
Post by: cld40 on June 13, 2011, 09:46:17 AM
are those solid tires on that trailer?
i was wondering about the advantage/disadvantage of a solid tire vs a tire with air?
do you have a more detailed pic of the way you attached it to the bike?
another thing i was looking at is the mounting point, which is better the seat post or the rear hub?
the lower center of gravity of the rear hub makes more sense to me, which would be difficult at best with one of the game carts given their shape, but their would be an advantage of it retrieving the game being it could be used for its intended purpose, as well as hook it up to the bike too.
anyone with experience on this feel free to chime in.
the cart i posted looks good, but it is also 30+ pounds.
the game carts are lighter i believe.
again anyone with input on this would be appreciated...
Post by: cld40 on June 13, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
i am in the market as well, the game cart was something i was thinking of as well, looks like it worked well, this is one i have been looking at on ebay. anyone seen or had any experience with it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Aosom-Bicycle-Bike-Cargo-Trailer-Red-Black-PickUp-Only-/250822771030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6633c156#ht_500wt_1136 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Aosom-Bicycle-Bike-Cargo-Trailer-Red-Black-PickUp-Only-/250822771030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6633c156#ht_500wt_1136)
We usethat trailer for our deer camp. All in all it does pretty well, especilymformthe price. Doesn't quite hold the loads that the website claims but we just reinforced the bar that connects it to the trailer. We packed out 8 deer quarters and two heads last year with it. I will try to dig up some pics later.
thanks for chiming in, some pics would be great, if you can get one of the reinforcing points as well. the trailer looked good to me, i questioned its weight though, at 30+ pounds seemed a little heavier than i would want...
Post by: sebek556 on June 13, 2011, 09:59:14 AM
Post by: cld40 on June 13, 2011, 10:03:47 AM
the hawkeye built trailers look good, but at 450$ they don't look that innovative.
although if they do indeed have disc brakes that would be awesome.
their website is not working!
Post by: jechicdr on June 13, 2011, 10:10:50 AM
This is an Ameristep game cart http://www.ameristep.com/accessories/9800_cart.html. (http://www.ameristep.com/accessories/9800_cart.html.) I took the old goose neck off of a kids one wheel bike that attaches to the seat post and a ball joint. Halled my moose out 1 mile behind a gate in two trips. 482 lbs of meat + the head and cape. My elk last year was two trips, walked two bags of meat out on two bikes to get the cart and the rest on the cart.
Just need to come up with a bar that can attach to most game carts that attaches to bike seat and pivots. That kids bike bar looks good. Someone should sell those separately.
This looks promising: http://trailgator.com/ (http://trailgator.com/)
Post by: Special T on June 13, 2011, 01:15:39 PM
Post by: Elkrunner on June 13, 2011, 01:36:30 PM
Post by: AKBowman on June 13, 2011, 02:58:16 PM
hey PA BEN,
are those solid tires on that trailer?
i was wondering about the advantage/disadvantage of a solid tire vs a tire with air?
do you have a more detailed pic of the way you attached it to the bike?
another thing i was looking at is the mounting point, which is better the seat post or the rear hub?
the lower center of gravity of the rear hub makes more sense to me, which would be difficult at best with one of the game carts given their shape, but their would be an advantage of it retrieving the game being it could be used for its intended purpose, as well as hook it up to the bike too.
anyone with experience on this feel free to chime in.
the cart i posted looks good, but it is also 30+ pounds.
the game carts are lighter i believe.
again anyone with input on this would be appreciated...
most game carts I'm seeing are around 40#'s, which seems a little heavy. The big advantage I see of a game cart over a traditional flatbed trailer is the load capacities on the GC's are much greater at around 350#'s vs around 100#'s for a flatbed trailer. The disadvantages would be the weight at around 40#'s vs an average of 30#'s, the solid tires would make for a rough ride and the high center of gravity attaching to the seat post. The flatbed trailer I'm looking at from Burley attached to the rear axle. I think either way I go I will be making some modifications.
Post by: iRem on June 13, 2011, 03:46:39 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on June 13, 2011, 03:54:21 PM
I figure between that and my 3 goats, should be able to pack out almost anything (next year when the goats are big enough)....
Post by: TONTO on June 13, 2011, 04:27:24 PM
I think you will find that buying NEW Mt bike tires with disk brakes make up a majority of the cost in one of these setups. Tradional brakes that rub against the side of the rim will fade due to heat and then pop the tire. If you can find a used cheep/free bike it would have all the gear you would likely need for materials, provided it had disk brakes. Price them out they arn't all that cheep. :twocents:
I have a couple wheels I got from work, they are off the front of a workman trike. 24" and pretty heavy duty, they both have drum brakes. Was thinking this would make a good trailer set up, and I could hook it up with a parking brake.
Post by: cem3434 on June 13, 2011, 07:41:03 PM
hey PA BEN,
are those solid tires on that trailer?
i was wondering about the advantage/disadvantage of a solid tire vs a tire with air?
do you have a more detailed pic of the way you attached it to the bike?
another thing i was looking at is the mounting point, which is better the seat post or the rear hub?
the lower center of gravity of the rear hub makes more sense to me, which would be difficult at best with one of the game carts given their shape, but their would be an advantage of it retrieving the game being it could be used for its intended purpose, as well as hook it up to the bike too.
anyone with experience on this feel free to chime in.
the cart i posted looks good, but it is also 30+ pounds.
the game carts are lighter i believe.
again anyone with input on this would be appreciated...
most game carts I'm seeing are around 40#'s, which seems a little heavy. The big advantage I see of a game cart over a traditional flatbed trailer is the load capacities on the GC's are much greater at around 350#'s vs around 100#'s for a flatbed trailer. The disadvantages would be the weight at around 40#'s vs an average of 30#'s, the solid tires would make for a rough ride and the high center of gravity attaching to the seat post. The flatbed trailer I'm looking at from Burley attached to the rear axle. I think either way I go I will be making some modifications.
Great point!
Post by: windygorge on June 13, 2011, 08:13:03 PM
http://youtu.be/QEyNF4k7yjQ (http://youtu.be/QEyNF4k7yjQ)
http://youtu.be/jIuUXj0heZQ (http://youtu.be/jIuUXj0heZQ)
Post by: cld40 on June 13, 2011, 08:22:30 PM
very nice trailer, what do you think it weighs?
looks very strong....
Post by: AKBowman on June 13, 2011, 08:31:26 PM
That is a great setup, I dont have access to any tools that would allow me to make one that integrate and well built.
Nice job, cool videos too.
Were you able to ride the load out or did you end up walking the bike out? Where I'm looking at hunting this year its super steep so I think it would be really easy to overload a trailer and get out of control coming down one of those really steep hills. Its so steep last year I though I wasnt going to be able to stop with just myself my pack and bow.
Post by: windygorge on June 13, 2011, 08:33:25 PM
windygorge,,,
very nice trailer, what do you think it weighs?
looks very strong....
its amazing how light it is even though its metal. just weighed the platform and it weighed 15.6 lbs. add the wheels and tongue, it probably weighs 20ish lbs.
Post by: JPhelps on June 13, 2011, 08:46:56 PM
We added an extension (neck) to the front handle to keep the cart above the rear tire. We then use a Ball swivel to allow the bike and cart to move independently. We then added two posts a couple inches away from the ball swivel. This was a safety precaution to make sure the cart is never to far out of alignment with the bike (no jack knifing). It all attaches to the seat post using a 2 inch section of steel tubing.
Works great. We have hauled out over 15 bulls on these carts in the past couple years. A whole quartered out bull at a time. Downhill, we have to get off and walk though. We were also able to find 25 psi solid tubes that work awesome. No more worrying about flats.
Post by: windygorge on June 13, 2011, 08:48:08 PM
Windygorge- I knew I had seen that setup somewhere, thats where I got the idea for weaving the rope for the bottom support. I bet its tough as all hell and also gives some give over gravel terrain so the heavy load doesnt demolish your axles.
That is a great setup, I dont have access to any tools that would allow me to make one that integrate and well built.
Nice job, cool videos too.
Were you able to ride the load out or did you end up walking the bike out? Where I'm looking at hunting this year its super steep so I think it would be really easy to overload a trailer and get out of control coming down one of those really steep hills. Its so steep last year I though I wasnt going to be able to stop with just myself my pack and bow.
sorry my computer pooped on me. as i was trying to say.......
i am so glad i built it. it is extremely dangerous when its steep. and the load does want to push you down. being in a hurry is NOT an option. take it really slow. having disc brakes are important however, because i just about melted my rims coming down. again just take it slow. or you will be pushed down into the canyons you hunt these elk in
Post by: huntingfool7 on June 13, 2011, 11:25:18 PM
Surly trailer is rated for 300#
Post by: windygorge on June 14, 2011, 05:11:48 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on June 14, 2011, 09:58:18 AM
Post by: Buckmark on June 14, 2011, 10:52:07 AM
pretty nice trailer. i like the wishbone hitch thingy. wonder what the price is??$450.00 ++
Post by: windygorge on June 14, 2011, 04:21:35 PM
Post by: PA BEN on June 14, 2011, 08:04:32 PM
Post by: PA BEN on June 14, 2011, 08:12:15 PM
Post by: windygorge on June 14, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
By the way my daughter and I drew cow elk tags this year so we will be putting it to use again. :IBCOOL:
nice. congratulations :tup:
Post by: cem3434 on June 14, 2011, 09:06:07 PM
By the way my daughter and I drew cow elk tags this year so we will be putting it to use again. :IBCOOL:
What unit?
Post by: AKBowman on June 15, 2011, 06:46:23 PM
By the way my daughter and I drew cow elk tags this year so we will be putting it to use again. :IBCOOL:
Nice! Didn't you draw a sept bull rifle tag on the peninsula last yr? Does the horse shoe up your a$$ set off the metal
Detectors in the airport?
Just messing with you congrats!! I hope you have an enjoyable hunt with your daughter!!
Post by: cem3434 on June 15, 2011, 06:48:26 PM
We have two customized game carts that attach at the seat post. I will try and get some pictures on here. You can also see it in action on our video (that we will be releasing as our last online episode).
We added an extension (neck) to the front handle to keep the cart above the rear tire. We then use a Ball swivel to allow the bike and cart to move independently. We then added two posts a couple inches away from the ball swivel. This was a safety precaution to make sure the cart is never to far out of alignment with the bike (no jack knifing). It all attaches to the seat post using a 2 inch section of steel tubing.
Works great. We have hauled out over 15 bulls on these carts in the past couple years. A whole quartered out bull at a time. Downhill, we have to get off and walk though. We were also able to find 25 psi solid tubes that work awesome. No more worrying about flats.
Lets see some pics!
Post by: PA BEN on June 15, 2011, 06:49:33 PM
Raymond ELK Area 6010 DEC. 16th to 31stBy the way my daughter and I drew cow elk tags this year so we will be putting it to use again. :IBCOOL:
What unit?
Post by: cem3434 on June 15, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
Post by: Tim on June 15, 2011, 07:18:03 PM
Tim
Post by: kalamasasquatch on June 15, 2011, 07:40:22 PM
Post by: alecvg on June 15, 2011, 07:47:05 PM
i am in the market as well, the game cart was something i was thinking of as well, looks like it worked well, this is one i have been looking at on ebay. anyone seen or had any experience with it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Aosom-Bicycle-Bike-Cargo-Trailer-Red-Black-PickUp-Only-/250822771030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6633c156#ht_500wt_1136 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Aosom-Bicycle-Bike-Cargo-Trailer-Red-Black-PickUp-Only-/250822771030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6633c156#ht_500wt_1136)
We usethat trailer for our deer camp. All in all it does pretty well, especilymformthe price. Doesn't quite hold the loads that the website claims but we just reinforced the bar that connects it to the trailer. We packed out 8 deer quarters and two heads last year with it. I will try to dig up some pics later.
Here is a picture. Its the cart on the right
Post by: alecvg on June 15, 2011, 07:48:42 PM
Post by: AKBowman on June 15, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
I was thinking of purchasing a used trailer like that then stripping it down to the frame and creating a webbed bottom. Is the cover portion of the frame welded together or just bolted? I'm hoping they are bolted so I can remove them easier.
Thanks
Post by: kalamasasquatch on June 16, 2011, 09:19:55 AM
Post by: HawkeyeBilt on June 16, 2011, 02:44:23 PM
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These carts are 20 pounds and can carry 300 plus pounds. i know people thank the price is high but these carts aren't cheap to make. the tires alone cost around 200$. We dont make much money on these carts that's why its more of a hobby than a buisness at this point. And someone also mentioned something about innovation vs the price. On these carts we wanted the lightest carts that can haul the most weight. It's that simple.
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Also mentioned was our site was not working. This is true. It's being redone as we speak. hopefuly it will be finished by tomorrow. If anyone has any questions feel free to p.m. me.
Post by: Special T on June 16, 2011, 03:26:39 PM
Post by: HawkeyeBilt on June 19, 2011, 03:49:47 PM
Do the trailers have disk breaks on both wheels?
Yeah we can and do put brakes on them. I personaly dont use the brakes on the cart. I can keep it under control most of the time with just my bike brakes.
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Post by: flinger on August 31, 2011, 06:34:03 PM
Post by: windygorge on September 01, 2011, 05:24:12 AM
just got mine set up,not much time for a trial run but it should work,hopefully
looks awesome. just make sure that where you have the bar connected to the trailer doesn't bend or swivel. it looks like the trailer with a load will be dangerous if it does. good luck
Post by: flinger on September 01, 2011, 12:13:28 PM
Post by: jackmaster on September 01, 2011, 12:27:32 PM
I use a burley kids bike trailer. worked well but needs brakes for descending hills.thats the same one i use except i extended the back of the trailor 2 and a half more feet and added 2 more wheels so i could haul alot more weight, thats how i get my huntn camp packed back in where i deer hunt, its a 4 mile one way trip, and the trailor is well worth the work :twocents:
Post by: oldleclercrd on September 01, 2011, 01:46:12 PM