Post by: gramps on June 28, 2011, 09:56:36 AM
I and the caretaker have checked the fence and netting everyday and there are no holes...the grate over the creek that flows through has a 4 inch gap( his fur is dry in all the photos) ...so we can not find out how this critter is getting in side. The kills have been a week apart so I can not imagine that he is somehow inside all the time and only feeding once a week. My trap is 15" high and his back is higher than that when he was standing beside the trap.
Any suggestions would be very welcome.
Using sardines and dry cat food for bait.
Thanks
leo
Post by: lokidog on June 28, 2011, 11:15:33 AM
Post by: gramps on June 28, 2011, 12:55:51 PM
Post by: Machias on June 28, 2011, 01:25:54 PM
Post by: C-Money on June 28, 2011, 01:31:47 PM
Post by: gramps on June 28, 2011, 01:53:41 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on June 28, 2011, 02:03:48 PM
Post by: Machias on June 28, 2011, 02:18:35 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 28, 2011, 02:20:39 PM
Post by: quadrafire on June 28, 2011, 02:21:11 PM
Growing up there was a family of racoons living in the attic of an old bunk house. One of the guys dad worked with used to feed them frozen twinkies. You could wave just about anything at them and they'd stare at you from the hole in the roof. Break out a frozen twinkie and they'd get almost arms length away.Bet they would really go ape over a deep fried one :chuckle:
Post by: CastleRocker on June 28, 2011, 02:22:17 PM
Post by: Hannibal on June 28, 2011, 02:25:54 PM
Often a female will be weary until her young mature.....
My guess is it is not trap shy if it went part way in,,,,,,
Post by: Elkrunner on June 28, 2011, 02:28:10 PM
My Dad used a piece of a Subway sandwich and caught his trouble coon. Billy the exterminator uses grape jelly. I agree with going witha bigger trap!Billy the exterminator! I am glad someone else watches that. My wife thinks that I am crazy for watching it...
Post by: jackmaster on June 28, 2011, 03:12:53 PM
Do you think he is trap wise or just so dang big he's not comfortable going inside? If he is trap shy a bit I like to put my traps in a garbage bin or use the bucket trap kits, which use two 5 gallon buckets. Then I like to hang two big white marsh mellows from a piece of wire hanging from the roof of the trap just behind the pan. Then I'll put a marshmellow on the floor and one at the door. Great eye appeal and I have caught a few trap wise coons trying to get the marshmellows off the wire hanging from the roof.:yeah:and try mixing peanut butter and anise oil
Post by: gramps on June 28, 2011, 03:49:06 PM
The trap is stable, floor covered with fresh dirt and I have tried using portions of the Ducks and Peacocks that have been killed with no luck so far.
I may spend part of the night there soon in a small blind.
Post by: Machias on June 28, 2011, 03:56:33 PM
Post by: quadrafire on June 28, 2011, 03:56:56 PM
I may spend part of the night there soon in a small blind.and a ;) Gamo .177
Post by: gramps on June 28, 2011, 04:03:18 PM
Post by: quadrafire on June 28, 2011, 04:08:03 PM
Post by: rasbo on June 28, 2011, 04:09:32 PM
Thanks for all the comments !!meat might get ya a oppossum or a skunk,you might try some fig newton filling,sticky and sweet
The trap is stable, floor covered with fresh dirt and I have tried using portions of the Ducks and Peacocks that have been killed with no luck so far.
I may spend part of the night there soon in a small blind.
Post by: bare.hunter on June 28, 2011, 05:07:44 PM
why wouldent a guy use some Dp traps with marshmellows
done deal they cant help but stick there hand into the DP.
ofcourse a guy needs to follow all laws.
Post by: bob maier on June 29, 2011, 12:00:29 PM
Post by: gramps on June 30, 2011, 10:12:34 AM
I called WDFW this AM to inquire about the permit for problem animals and the use of a DP trap or Coon Cuff....
FYI....According to the gentleman I spoke with, they are not legal to use in WA. under any circumstances. The problem wildlife permit allows the use of very few methods that are otherwise illegal in Wa. state.
Bummer and thanks to the anti everything crowd.
Post by: Machias on June 30, 2011, 10:24:40 AM
Update..........
I called WDFW this AM to inquire about the permit for problem animals and the use of a DP trap or Coon Cuff....
FYI....According to the gentleman I spoke with, they are not legal to use in WA. under any circumstances. The problem wildlife permit allows the use of very few methods that are otherwise illegal in Wa. state.
Bummer and thanks to the anti everything crowd.
Yep, conibears under water, padded legholds, and non-strangling foot snares.
Post by: gramps on June 30, 2011, 12:09:53 PM
Post by: Machias on June 30, 2011, 12:56:42 PM
Yes Machias......and wouldn't one think that a DP would fall in the non-strangling foot snare catagory??
It would certainly be a safe trap for the location your using it.
Post by: Humptulips on July 02, 2011, 08:18:49 PM
Actually if you read the law their is no definition of what constitutes a padded jaw trap so you can cover the jaw with about anything and it would be legal but it does have to work well. The air tubing works well for me.
No way would they be considered a foot snare.
Post by: gramps on July 04, 2011, 07:07:49 AM
The coon was back last night...ate the cat food I left in front of and in the front portion of the traps, but did not go in to get what was in the back of the traps. Did not kill any birds either. There are endangered specie birds in the aviary, so they are anxious to catch this coon.
Will try to add a picture....
First one is a trap that is 15" high and the second is 20" high.
Post by: BallisticsNut on July 04, 2011, 09:40:38 AM
Post by: bob maier on July 04, 2011, 09:44:14 AM
Post by: Machias on July 05, 2011, 03:25:00 PM
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on July 07, 2011, 07:02:52 AM
The story made the KOMO webpage today.
Post by: quadrafire on July 07, 2011, 07:40:49 AM
Any luck yet?Also in the Spokesman today
The story made the KOMO webpage today.
Post by: Woodchuck on July 07, 2011, 07:55:16 AM
Post by: demontang on July 07, 2011, 09:27:17 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on July 07, 2011, 09:32:41 AM
Post by: gramps on July 07, 2011, 09:48:35 AM
The last thing I wanted out of this was any publicity for myself...too late now.
I have applied for the special use permit, but the man I spoke with in olympia said sometimes they have a problem approving permits for city property...public use areas. This is a little different in that it is an enclosed and locked area. Also have been catching alot of ducks..
There was an error in the article that has been published...all of you will spot it in a minute.
Post by: sebek556 on July 07, 2011, 10:01:38 AM
Post by: demontang on July 07, 2011, 10:29:54 AM
If your catching the birds you may need to rethink how to set the other traps if you getthe permit.
I would bee looking realy hard at any areas the coon is using as a route and try to set a trap up in it so that it runs into the open ended trap. Relook the fence high an low, it has to be either coming into the area or living on site.
Post by: sebek556 on July 07, 2011, 10:42:02 AM
Post by: gramps on July 07, 2011, 10:59:21 AM
A pattern is developing with respect to the images caught with the camera...d-day is comming.
If we get the permit, I have an idea for a set.
Thanks again.
Post by: demontang on July 07, 2011, 01:43:01 PM
Post by: Machias on July 07, 2011, 03:57:57 PM
You can safely use a pellet gun in a public area. I've done it you just have to be very aware of you're back stop and of any risks of the shot. it's up to the pd and your judgement it allow it.
I wouldn't recommend a pellet gun. I've shot several coons with a .22 that got really angry, climbed down the tree and started kicking dog's butts before they died. They are related to the bear in that it can take a bit to put one down. Now granted, right between the eyes with a .22 and the game is over. Not always able to get a perfect shot up through the tree limbs and then the fight is on. I personally like my racoons to hit the ground stone dead.....saves on vet bills.
Post by: demontang on July 07, 2011, 05:46:43 PM
Post by: Hannibal on July 07, 2011, 08:46:20 PM
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If your catching the birds you may need to rethink how to set the other traps if you getthe permit.
set at night only......spring during the day...
if i were to set padded traps, it would be right in front of the cages he is visiting....
Post by: gramps on July 08, 2011, 12:34:51 PM
I find it interesting that I have been tripping the traps in the day time for a couple weeks and still catching the occasional duck at night. I have been there at night and the ducks are quite busy at night...swimming around, making small noises...so I thought something was in the enclosure...but not so, some of them are just active at night.
This is getting old....
but to be continued.....
Post by: Humptulips on July 09, 2011, 05:10:01 PM
Post by: True Sportsman on July 09, 2011, 05:29:58 PM
Growing up there was a family of racoons living in the attic of an old bunk house. One of the guys dad worked with used to feed them frozen twinkies. You could wave just about anything at them and they'd stare at you from the hole in the roof. Break out a frozen twinkie and they'd get almost arms length away.
That made me laugh. :) Not bad.
Post by: quadrafire on July 10, 2011, 06:25:39 PM
but to be continued.....
I can't wait for the ending. Maybe movie rights??
Post by: gramps on July 10, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
It was at the door of the trap again...would not enter tho'.
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on July 11, 2011, 07:05:22 AM
Post by: demontang on July 11, 2011, 08:33:06 AM
Post by: gramps on July 25, 2011, 11:34:31 AM
I was not able to intice him into a cage or otherwise trap him. The only good part is that he has not killed any birds for a while and there have been no pictures of him either and no evidence that he has been inside the fence.
Thanks to everyone for the comments and thanks to Bob....a member here and to another local who is not a member, but also a very experienced trapper.
Post by: lokidog on July 25, 2011, 12:35:11 PM
Post by: BallisticsNut on July 25, 2011, 03:13:03 PM
I hate to revive an otherwise dead thread...but in a manner of speaking, the 'coon may have won this one.
I was not able to intice him into a cage or otherwise trap him. The only good part is that he has not killed any birds for a while and there have been no pictures of him either and no evidence that he has been inside the fence.
Thanks to everyone for the comments and thanks to Bob....a member here and to another local who is not a member, but also a very experienced trapper.
Two years ago, we had a problem coon, loved to hang out in our tree just outside our fenceline and torment my dogs. One well placed firecracker sent that big guy scampering and havent seen him since.