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Title: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: Kain on July 03, 2011, 01:10:28 PM
Once they are here they will be damn near impossible to manage.  Especially in a state that does not allow foot hold traps. 

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A plan by state officials to kill up to 60 wolves in north-central Idaho to protect elk herds has had little success so far, after aerial gunners and now state officials and hunting outfitters report limited results.

LEWISTON, Idaho (AP) — A plan by state officials to kill up to 60 wolves in north-central Idaho to protect elk herds has had little success so far, after aerial gunners and now state officials and hunting outfitters report limited results.

A reported six wolves have been killed so far, five by aerial gunners in May before that method was abandoned because of low success due to the wolves being in thick timber.

An Idaho Department of Fish and Game conservation officer shot another wolf near Powell on July 18.

"I would have thought we would have had more, but that is it,'' Dave Cadwallader, supervisor of the department's Clearwater Region, told the Lewiston Tribune.

State officials want to kill up to 60 wolves in the region, leaving about 20 or 30, after the Obama administration removed the predators from Endangered Species Act protections earlier this year.

With the aerial gunning from a helicopter having less success than officials hoped, officials have turned to hunting outfitters and their guides in the Lolo Zone. They were authorized to shoot wolves during the spring bear hunting season, but that hasn't panned out.

"Most of the outfitters I have talked to just aren't seeing any wolf activity,'' Cadwallader said.

State officials near Elk City have also been authorized to shoot wolves after numerous complaints, but Cadwallader said the wolves aren't being seen as frequently.

"I think it's the time of year,'' he said. "The elk have moved out and are calving and the wolves have moved on.''

Estimates put Idaho's wolf population at 705, but officials with Fish and Game said the number after this year's litter of pups may exceed 1,000.

In May, Fish and Game began selling wolf hunting tags for $11.50 to Idaho residents, one day after the predators were taken off the endangered species list. Out-of-state hunters will have to shell out $186 for a wolf permit.

Idaho officials are in the process of setting quotas and rules for this season's wolf hunt.

Hunters took to the backcountry two years ago to hunt wolves after the predators were delisted the first time. Hunters killed 188 wolves during that first public hunt, short of the state limit of 220.

Officials in Montana are also gearing up for a wolf hunt this fall.
Title: Re: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: mulehunter on July 04, 2011, 10:19:07 AM
Sad thing its always their job and they having so much fun shooting as many. How about open season NOW and allow us as hunter help. And we deserve to hunt.

Mulehunter.
Title: Re: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: colockumelk on February 05, 2013, 06:47:58 PM
I know this is from way back but... I was searching another topic and found this. I want to know what type of unskilled amateurs they have flying the helicopters and who the door gunners are that they could only shoot 5 wolves :dunno:  I mean really.  I know for a fact me and a buddy could shwack 5 wolves a day. No problem.  Sheesh!
Title: Re: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: Bigshooter on February 05, 2013, 06:53:34 PM
My guess is you have never been in the country they were trying to kill them in.
Title: Re: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 05, 2013, 07:16:04 PM
My guess is you have never been in the country they were trying to kill them in.

 :yeah:  It's prime Whitetail country--brushy and thick, with good canopy cover!
Title: Re: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: Smossy on February 05, 2013, 07:17:58 PM
How many people ACTUALLY want wolves to repopulate our state?

If so, why? I dont want them here, for any reason. Theyre beautiful yes, but If I want to see one that bad Ill travel or go to the zoo.
Title: Re: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: HookedOnQuack on February 05, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
i hunt in this area and there are alot of wolves around but like has already been said it is very thick and brushy and since the first hunt was allowed for them they have gotten extremely smart and have gone fairly silent. we used to hear multiple packs a day howling for the last few years but this past November i only heard 1 pack in 7 days of hunting but saw fresh tracks nearly every day
Title: Re: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: kevinlisa06 on February 06, 2013, 06:47:15 PM
Sounds like its time to start using decoys if they're getting smarter :dunno:
Title: Re: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: Northway on February 11, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
++"Most of the outfitters I have talked to just aren't seeing any wolf activity,'' Cadwallader said.++

I wonder if this means they aren't seeing any signs of wolves at all. A while back on another blog Mark Gamblin of the IDFG made the statement to skeptics that based on their estimates, a targeted reduction of 60 wolves in the Lolo, etc. would put the population in line with management objectives for that area. He hasn't posted on that blog in a while and I wish he could give an analysis of reduction efforts so far......

Title: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: jackelope on February 11, 2013, 02:21:46 PM
My guess is you have never been in the country they were trying to kill them in.

My guess is that he's been in very similar country. In a helicopter. With lots of firepower.
Title: Re: State Plan to Kill Northern Idaho Wolves Having Little Success
Post by: Bigshooter on February 12, 2013, 04:53:22 AM
My guess is you have never been in the country they were trying to kill them in.

My guess is that he's been in very similar country. In a helicopter. With lots of firepower.

I don't care how much firepower you have.  If you can't see them you can't kill them.
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