Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 04, 2011, 06:37:24 PM
Post by: CamoDup on July 04, 2011, 06:58:22 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 04, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
but he kills dogs... :twocents:
So do I.... :dunno:
Post by: tlbradford on July 04, 2011, 07:24:14 PM
Post by: buglebuster on July 04, 2011, 07:29:36 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 04, 2011, 07:29:57 PM
Post by: Wazukie on July 04, 2011, 07:34:48 PM
Post by: tlbradford on July 04, 2011, 08:03:39 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 04, 2011, 08:06:36 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on July 04, 2011, 08:11:30 PM
besides how exciting do you expect a coyote hunting show to be or any hunting show for that matter?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 04, 2011, 08:45:34 PM
I can't comment on the show, since I have never watched it. I was just defending Les Johnson, and telling you why he was a champion, and a great coyote hunter. You said he stinks and does everything wrong, and wondered why he got a show. I haven't found many hunting shows that I actually enjoy watching. I used to really enjoy the "Get Wild" with Cindy Garrison because she was a heck of a hunter, easy on the eyes, and a major part of the show was an adventure with the local culture, not hunting.
I didn't say, " he stinks and does everything wrong ". Since you've never watched the show , you really can't say much about it.
Post by: CamoDup on July 04, 2011, 08:50:14 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 04, 2011, 09:07:55 PM
Post by: Kain on July 04, 2011, 09:56:33 PM
http://predatorquest.com/web/television-show/episodes/ (http://predatorquest.com/web/television-show/episodes/)
Post by: CementFinisher on July 04, 2011, 10:05:20 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on July 04, 2011, 10:15:06 PM
but he kills dogs... :twocents:
So do I.... :dunno:
You should have posted them in the coyote contest when you were on our team. I only remember 1.
Post by: tlbradford on July 04, 2011, 11:27:52 PM
Post by: Alan K on July 04, 2011, 11:28:52 PM
I don't care much for Fred Eichler myself. :dunno:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 04, 2011, 11:50:07 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 05, 2011, 06:33:51 AM
Hey Meat, reread your first post. That's exactly what you said. Maybe you meant to say the show stinks, but that isn't what you wrote. I can defend the man, I can't defend the show.
That sounds fair to me.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 05, 2011, 06:37:56 AM
but he kills dogs... :twocents:
So do I.... :dunno:
You should have posted them in the coyote contest when you were on our team. I only remember 1.
I'm not talkin' about me, so that's a mute point.
Post by: MtnMuley on July 05, 2011, 08:00:03 AM
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Post by: boneaddict on July 05, 2011, 08:32:06 AM
Post by: ivarhusa on July 05, 2011, 04:22:27 PM
As to listening to that Ruffidog call over and over again, it is my theory that this is all about selling his product. I simply don't believe that the Ruffidog is the only call he uses. I say that in part because it sounds to my ear that very little of his hunting footage (that is, not the face-the-camera narration) is synced sound. When I listen/watch a Randy Anderson video, I trust that what I am hearing is what the coyote or bobcat is hearing at that moment.
I value listening/seeing the relationship between the calling (or other noise) and the critter's reaction. I watch to learn. Les is doing less teaching these days, as compared with his early shows.
Off-topic, but I find that when I spot the critter on the screen, I freeze. It is as if I am out there hunting. This is not much different then fidgeting to the left/right when watching a football player run up the field. You react. But in a hunting video, I react with stillness. (So far I haven't raised my rifle. :o )
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 05, 2011, 04:23:59 PM
Oh. You were saying how much Les Johnson stinks and how he does everything wrong and he still has a TV show. Then somebody commented on how he kills coyotes. Then you replied, "So do I", so that led me to believe that you were talking about yourself.........or just impling that you are on the same level or better than Les. No big deal to me, that's just how I read it.
No problem.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 05, 2011, 04:33:10 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 05, 2011, 05:05:30 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 05, 2011, 05:21:23 PM
Post by: tlbradford on July 06, 2011, 07:58:15 AM
man I hope all these sounds you hear on t.v does not bring you to believe they are true ...they edit this crap so you believe they are using certain calls so you buy them...not bragging But I used to kill an average of 25 yotes a year ...and one year I killed so many no one would believe me so I will leave it at that .... :chuckle:
I can tell you that pretty much every show or video you watch on coyote hunting, is giving you the sound being used by a certain call. They do not call coyotes with a different call and then edit over with another.
You stated that coyote hunting has come a long way. I would say this is true in a couple of small areas. Mainly the identification of different coyote vocalizations. Other than that, basic distress calls are still your best bet. I am sure during the 80's and 90's when you were averaging 25 a year..you were only using a couple of calls. I have gone entire seasons using only a two calls and killed over a 100 coyotes. Thatwas when I had more time than brains, and gas was cheap. I have no doubt that the ruffidawg is his primary handcall. It is pretty much a slightly modified crt'r call, and that has probably killed more coyotes than any other call in the world.
Anyway, I just want to make sure you get a little informed on the subject, prior to giving out bad information. It's a coyote hunting show, how much variety do you expect?
You and Campmeat need to be placed on a team together this fall, because it sounds like you guys can give the top teams a run for their money.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 06, 2011, 08:36:18 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 06, 2011, 08:56:20 AM
les johnson is a yote killing machine. His signature call he does with just his mouth and hand. no diaphram he does use a electronic call sometimes with his signature sound, know that he is a tv guy. I know i can't go out with no calls with just my hand and call in a yote. can you???
I've never seen him use anything except the ruffydog myself.
Post by: Raul Duke on July 06, 2011, 08:25:33 PM
This is my first year hunting, and I can't wait to get out and kill something.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 06, 2011, 08:38:49 PM
I bet I have 30 mouth calls and 2 ecalls. I never believe any of the crap I see on TV since it's all about revenue for the sponsors. I hunt coyotes in Levis and a Hickory shirt year around as I do everything else. That's why I don't have a TV show I bet. I shoot a lot of warning shots. I should start an ammo company. Ya think ?now he is in with hornaday so he is lookin sweet ... but I do only shoot hornaday bullets ... those v-maxes will spank the yotes and they shoot so flat... with my .223 they are sweet .... ;)
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 06, 2011, 08:52:55 PM
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Post by: trippledigitss on July 26, 2011, 03:29:06 PM
Post by: trippledigitss on July 26, 2011, 03:30:07 PM
hey the only thing making these guys pro's is they are on T.v of course no one will know how good we all are if our face is not on T.V... I do not think I forgot how to kill coyotes when it took me a life time to be consistant ...... 78 This winter :chuckle: :sry:
Nice looking coat on the one at the front right! :tup:
Post by: littletoes on July 29, 2011, 08:16:28 AM
When we watch a show like that, I think some of us see different things. Experienced hunters/callers know what to look for, or at least what they are looking for, and some of that "good" stuff ends up on the editors floor I imagine.
I can't seem to time it right to see any predator hunting shows on tv, so I'd be happy with just about anything.
If they are competent, and succeed in taking animal after animal, not just 200 stands compressed into the 15 where they did actually take animals, that may say something.
I enjoy the Randy Anderson Videos primarily because he is a teacher at heart, and shows stands where he does not succeed.
There is not Gold Standard, and what works today, may not work tomorrow.
We've had good luck mixing it up where we hunt, and it keeps the dogs coming in.
Post by: predator guy on July 31, 2011, 07:17:44 PM
For me, its what YOU see.:yeah: Randy Anderson+Primos, 'Nuff said.
When we watch a show like that, I think some of us see different things. Experienced hunters/callers know what to look for, or at least what they are looking for, and some of that "good" stuff ends up on the editors floor I imagine.
I can't seem to time it right to see any predator hunting shows on tv, so I'd be happy with just about anything.
If they are competent, and succeed in taking animal after animal, not just 200 stands compressed into the 15 where they did actually take animals, that may say something.
I enjoy the Randy Anderson Videos primarily because he is a teacher at heart, and shows stands where he does not succeed.
There is not Gold Standard, and what works today, may not work tomorrow.
We've had good luck mixing it up where we hunt, and it keeps the dogs coming in.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 31, 2011, 07:28:21 PM
Post by: VarmintVentilator on July 31, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
Post by: FALFire on August 01, 2011, 09:42:41 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 03, 2011, 06:03:26 PM
Who is Les Johnson? :dunno:
A boring predator hunting show host on TV. :chuckle:
Post by: FALFire on August 04, 2011, 01:56:29 PM
IWho is Les Johnson? :dunno:
A boring predator hunting show host on TV. :chuckle:
Is he by chance the MORON that wears a coyote or racoon hat on his head while he is calling?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 05, 2011, 12:35:36 PM
IWho is Les Johnson? :dunno:
A boring predator hunting show host on TV. :chuckle:
Is he by chance the MORON that wears a coyote or racoon hat on his head while he is calling?
That be him !!!!
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 05, 2011, 12:46:05 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 05, 2011, 02:30:33 PM
hahah maybe I do that :chuckle: :chuckle:
I hope not...... :dunno:
Post by: predatorpro on August 05, 2011, 02:42:45 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 05, 2011, 03:44:20 PM
well you dont need to worry about gettin shot in the places he goes, not to many other coyote hunters on huge ranches :P and dont let camp meat fool you he told me the other day he secretly thinks les johnson is the best :chuckle: :chuckle:
I did, the best at being BORING !!!
Post by: Raul Duke on August 06, 2011, 07:08:39 AM
On;y dropped 2. 1 with a shotgun. Looks to me like he might now a thing ot 2 about a thing or 2.
Post by: Raul Duke on August 21, 2011, 06:55:37 PM
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 21, 2011, 07:20:50 PM