Post by: engelwood on July 06, 2011, 04:20:07 PM
Post by: h20hunter on July 06, 2011, 04:24:16 PM
Post by: Rick on July 06, 2011, 05:51:47 PM
Post by: boots on July 06, 2011, 07:30:34 PM
Post by: kitsap on July 06, 2011, 07:37:49 PM
....... for shooting long distances ...........
I would have to ask what do you define as long distances? How may yards away from the firing line will the target be located?
You need to stay away from military surplus ammunition with steel or other types of metal penetrators.
DougF
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 06, 2011, 07:38:43 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 06, 2011, 07:40:05 PM
....... for shooting long distances ...........
I would have to ask what do you define as long distances? How may yards away from the firing line will the target be located?
You need to stay away from military surplus ammunition with steel or other types of metal penetrators.
DougF
Why do you need to stay away from military ammo ?
Post by: demontang on July 07, 2011, 07:12:16 AM
Post by: FC on July 07, 2011, 10:42:31 AM
steel core can and will cause a fire :twocents: reg ball ammo is fine.
How?
Post by: sebek556 on July 07, 2011, 10:57:26 AM
Post by: demontang on July 07, 2011, 11:21:37 AM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 07, 2011, 11:23:14 AM
The square is 3/4" A36. The Mickey Mouse is 1/4" AR-400. The little pock mark is a .22 @ 100yds. :chuckle:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3140%2F2747160924_13003ef5a0_b.jpg&hash=8d5bd8d624c0883a0b6e6c9bc3bfa8f2129096be)
More 3/4" A36
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3174%2F2747159084_75538b01ac_z.jpg&hash=084923a121488a62795a1d8bb369bf41698b7ec0)
The pig is also from A36. The brass looking holes are from some Barnes bullets we loaded up.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3167%2F2746324207_e69c95f32f_b.jpg&hash=1a27bae01d31348550cb9df2ba69432cd6eb04be)
The small pock marks are from a .22 my daughter was shooting @ 100yds
Post by: kckrawler on July 07, 2011, 11:46:08 AM
If you are long range shooting you shouldn't really have an splatter issues. There is a vid somewhere on YouTube showing a loooonnnng ricochet from some guys shooting .50's. Bang away if you are in a safe area.
http://www.military.com/video/guns/rifles/50-cal-ricochet-that-smarts/658235492001/ (http://www.military.com/video/guns/rifles/50-cal-ricochet-that-smarts/658235492001/)
:tup:
Post by: CementFinisher on July 07, 2011, 02:04:13 PM
Post by: jackmaster on July 07, 2011, 02:18:49 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 07, 2011, 02:20:27 PM
Post by: CementFinisher on July 07, 2011, 02:52:33 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 07, 2011, 02:56:21 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 07, 2011, 03:09:30 PM
The last gong I made with AR-400 hangs on chains from a 1/2" diameter steel rod hoop. As the plate hangs, it will deflect what is left of the bullet downward.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages5a.snapfish.com%2F232323232%257Ffp63262%253Enu%253D3283%253E7%253A4%253E682%253E23747%253A4773257ot1lsi&hash=15111e2b4f2d46af2c9c119793ef05c074c475ba)
Post by: CementFinisher on July 07, 2011, 03:27:00 PM
With the softer steel, the kinetic energy is dissipated and the bullet fragments travel only a very short distance. A lead core bullet is going to disintegrate upon impact anyways so there would be no mass left to ricochet.
The last gong I made with AR-400 hangs on chains from a 1/2" diameter steel rod hoop. As the plate hangs, it will deflect what is left of the bullet downward.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages5a.snapfish.com%2F232323232%257Ffp63262%253Enu%253D3283%253E7%253A4%253E682%253E23747%253A4773257ot1lsi&hash=15111e2b4f2d46af2c9c119793ef05c074c475ba)
Jeep Yes the ar400 is hard enough it often has a hardness of brinell 380-425. So its a hardened steel. I'm just trying to show that a guy should not just grab a piece of steel off a job site like something for a column or gusseting, soft steel is bad for shooting. Once it is dimpled it is dangerous.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 07, 2011, 03:37:29 PM
Post by: demontang on July 07, 2011, 05:59:50 PM
Post by: yorketransport on July 07, 2011, 08:40:39 PM
Andrew
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 07, 2011, 11:06:32 PM
Post by: demontang on July 08, 2011, 07:37:53 AM
Hope you heal fast thats not a fun injury been there.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 08, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
Post by: FC on July 08, 2011, 10:43:58 AM
Just got back from the DR. He seems to think its the AC joint and bicep attachment. Scheduling an MRI now.. :bash:
Ugh, that sucks!
Post by: demontang on July 08, 2011, 12:17:48 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 08, 2011, 02:45:38 PM
Post by: FC on July 08, 2011, 02:50:24 PM
The boss and our risk management company are jerking me around now, saying they want to try physical therapy etc before allowing an MRI. Humm... If something is torn, PT etc is NOT going to fix a tear. :bash:
Is your company insured by L&I?
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 08, 2011, 03:54:03 PM
Post by: FC on July 08, 2011, 04:01:20 PM
Yes. :bash:
That's actually a good thing! Your boss and company have no say in whether or not you get an MRI, that is strictly up to your doctor! If your doctor is recommending an MRI your claims manager must approve it first but they generally do without complaint as they want you fixed and off of their payroll as fast as possible.
Post by: NW-GSP on July 09, 2011, 11:01:46 AM
I am the shop foreman at a heavy equipment attachment company. We have tons of scrap laying around to build targets out of. I can make them pretty easy. I tore my left rotator cuff on Tuesday, so I am down to one arm for while but I could whip up a couple of prototypes if someone is interested.
I also live in marysville and could use a target, Im shooting a 300 win mag. will pay you for your troubles :dunno:
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 10, 2011, 09:03:06 AM
Post by: NW-GSP on July 10, 2011, 09:41:12 AM
thanks man!
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 10, 2011, 02:06:16 PM
steel core can and will cause a fire :twocents: reg ball ammo is fine.
+1 This I know for a fact! :(
Post by: BallisticsNut on July 10, 2011, 02:27:04 PM
So yes!! to your question. From my understanding this is the third time in four years this has happened on this range. So, i would recommend that all steel plates be set with some sort of backward angle so that all impacts are deflected downward into the ground rather then sideways or directly back. Please consider this when designing gongs for steel plates. :twocents:
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 10, 2011, 05:55:43 PM
Post by: 700xcr on July 10, 2011, 06:30:16 PM
Most steel shoots I attend, don't .338 Cal on steel and poor bullet choice to say the least. :bash:I can see out there at farther ranges. But like you said 100yds. and a copper bullet that the pedals can brake away. :bdid:
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 10, 2011, 08:37:59 PM
Most steel shoots I attend, don't .338 Cal on steel and poor bullet choice to say the least. :bash:I can see out there at farther ranges. But like you said 100yds. and a copper bullet that the pedals can brake away. :bdid:
Also due to the fact a .338 Win mag, Ultra mag or Lapua mag, beats the crap out of steel at no matter what range. No matter if it's not your steel but all involved don't look at it that way. :o
Post by: chongo469 on July 10, 2011, 09:52:46 PM
Post by: demontang on July 10, 2011, 10:15:42 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 19, 2011, 11:53:01 AM
12 in would be awesome, I figure its kill zone size. I have just gotten into reloading and am wanting to do some long range target shooting with my new shiny remmington 700 300 win mag, I can already tell that a new scope and trigger job will need to happen at some point.
thanks man!
The 12" Target should be done by Friday. Just cut the circle out of 3/8" AR-400 plate. I made the frame for it yesterday. All that is left is to attach the chains from the frame to the target, blast, and paint.
Post by: NW-GSP on July 19, 2011, 02:25:13 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 19, 2011, 03:02:30 PM
Post by: high country on July 20, 2011, 11:17:40 AM
Post by: NW-GSP on July 20, 2011, 01:23:10 PM
Where are you located? I will be going to the range day on Sunday that H2OHunter is putting on.
Im also in marysville, usually off work before 2pm
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 20, 2011, 03:59:35 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on July 20, 2011, 06:57:10 PM
It's done!
thats awesome! you could market those!
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 20, 2011, 07:57:15 PM
Took some more after I got home. The target is detachable, replaceable, and can be hung at any height.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 20, 2011, 08:12:41 PM
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on July 20, 2011, 11:20:18 PM
3/8" AR-400
Post by: Raul Duke on July 21, 2011, 05:51:20 AM
Post by: engelwood on July 21, 2011, 09:00:28 AM
Post by: Jburke on July 23, 2011, 02:01:57 PM