Post by: Raul Duke on July 13, 2011, 08:18:32 AM
I got my shot placement where I want it up/down. I just need 8 clicks to the right.
I give it 4 clicks and fire a shot. It hits 4clicks under lmy last shot. .. ? ..
I fire again, same spot. I give it 4 more to the right, and fire.
I hit 4 clicks under my last shot.
I can not get my scope to shoot to the right. Is it broken? Is it time to start shopping for a new scope? or is there a way to "reset" your scope and start over?
Post by: addicted on July 13, 2011, 08:33:39 AM
Have you used these rings before? Maybe they are off, or ruger couldnt get their dovetails straight?
As far as resetting the scope i have read of "centering" a scope, but i don't know if that will help.
Set up the scope in a v-notch and aim it at something. Then turn it 90 degrees and adjust the turret to get it back on track. then 90 degrees again and double check that the scope is still aiming at the target and adjust the appropriate turret. I think this is more for new scopes, not problem scopes.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on July 13, 2011, 08:33:52 AM
Post by: Raul Duke on July 13, 2011, 08:53:28 AM
I just was going threw to see if any of the screws where loose, and sure enough. The front base screw moved about a 1/8 of a turn.
Would that be enough to stop it from adjusting to the right?
Post by: Raul Duke on July 13, 2011, 09:01:50 AM
Found this image of the same scope online. Its the scope that came with the rifle I bought. I figured I'd use it for now, until I could upgrade later.
Post by: CedarPants on July 13, 2011, 09:09:51 AM
His grandpa rotated the scope 90 degrees to the left and told him to try again. Low and behold the adjustments went where they were supposed to go after that.
This kid grew had a striking resemblence to me. It wasn't me though I swear. Really :chuckle:
Post by: Alan K on July 13, 2011, 09:39:44 AM
I knew a kid one time years back that had that same problem after mounting one of his first scopes on his own. Tried adjusting the scope to the right and the point of impact adjusted down. This went on for several days until this kid took the gun to his grandpa to have him fix the scope.
His grandpa rotated the scope 90 degrees to the left and told him to try again. Low and behold the adjustments went where they were supposed to go after that.
This kid grew had a striking resemblence to me. It wasn't me though I swear. Really :chuckle:
:chuckle:
Post by: Raul Duke on July 13, 2011, 09:41:09 AM
That did cross my mind as I typed out my first post. As you can see from the picture, this scope can only be mounted one way.
Would that front mount being a hair loose, be enough to throw it off?
Post by: Mike450r on July 13, 2011, 09:47:55 AM
After tightening the mount try a 3 shot group before making any adjustment. If you group good make your adjustment and give the scope a firm wallop with the heel of your hand to on the opposite side of the windage adjustment. Fire another shot and see how it does.
Post by: addicted on July 13, 2011, 09:49:28 AM
I'm interested in your next range report.
Post by: Raul Duke on July 13, 2011, 09:58:11 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on July 13, 2011, 09:58:34 AM
sorry, its a Weaver CKT15 Micro-Trac 15x42 scope.
I just was going threw to see if any of the screws where loose, and sure enough. The front base screw moved about a 1/8 of a turn.
Would that be enough to stop it from adjusting to the right?
Yup. If the mounts are not rock solid on the gun, zeroing the scope will not be possible.
Post by: Mike450r on July 13, 2011, 10:01:51 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on July 13, 2011, 10:15:09 AM
Post by: Bofire on July 13, 2011, 10:26:23 AM
Carl
Post by: Raul Duke on July 13, 2011, 12:05:45 PM
There was a few shooting clays up the hill @ 180yrds. Destroyed them :IBCOOL:
I'm going to get a bore siting tool and another box of ammo. I love this rifle.
Post by: FC on July 13, 2011, 12:39:47 PM
Post by: MikeWalking on July 13, 2011, 12:58:01 PM
From your first post I would say your scope is rotated 90 degrees off.
Then again sometimes a scope will stick a bit and a few turns wont move anything..especially on a used rifle. A little whap along with an adjustment might help.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on July 13, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
I'm going to get a bore siting tool and another box of ammo. I love this rifle.
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A boresighting tool will only get you "on the paper" at 25 yards. It will NOT accurately zero the scope. Only actual shooting will do that.
My method posted earlier does the same thing a boresighting tool will do, but saves me from buying an expensive tool. :IBCOOL:
Post by: MtnMuley on July 13, 2011, 01:18:31 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on July 13, 2011, 01:25:18 PM
Post by: FC on July 13, 2011, 01:46:09 PM
From your first post I would say your scope is rotated 90 degrees off.
Then again sometimes a scope will stick a bit and a few turns wont move anything..especially on a used rifle. A little whap along with an adjustment might help.
Not when he said he turned the knob to move the shot right 4 clicks and it went down 4 clicks, twice even! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Raul Duke on July 15, 2011, 06:23:27 AM
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90degrees off? This is the scope. I'll post pics of it on the rifle if necessary. Unless your referring to the scope being messed up some how. I don't see how this can be mounted wrong , in any way.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 15, 2011, 07:30:53 AM
Either your mount is loose, or the scope internals are damaged/defective. If the mounts check out OK, send the scope in for repair.
That is probably the best answer on here. The very samething happened to me and it was a defective scope. I called Burris, sent it back and was fixed for free.
Post by: rgalanti21 on July 21, 2011, 03:10:45 PM
Post by: rgalanti21 on July 21, 2011, 03:16:39 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on July 22, 2011, 07:43:06 AM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 22, 2011, 07:58:23 AM
I devised a fast, easy way to boresight my guns. Remove the bolt, if a bolt gun,
"I devised" ???
The poor mans bore scope process has been around since the early 60's. I'm not saying that you didn't invent the process.. But... :rolleyes:
That said... Raul Duke, When you're adjusting the scope for it to bring point of impact to the right, are you adjusting the screw on the 'right' side of the scope, or the top? It is possible that the scope is assembled incorrectly with the tags for right/left and up/down in the wrong turret. And yes, if the scope is mounted 90 degrees canted left (looking from the rear), then as HereDoggy pointed out, you would get the exact results you are explaning to us. So... That would be a turret on the left and a turret on the top. Normal mounting would be a turret on the top, one on the right. (exept for some of the newer tactical models with dots and such that provide three turrets.)
So... If you can provide photo of the scope mounted, and with the caps off of the turrets so we can see what is stamped there, we might be able to help.
-Steve
Post by: Raul Duke on July 24, 2011, 08:05:01 AM
Raul Duke, When you're adjusting the scope for it to bring point of impact to the right, are you adjusting the screw on the 'right' side of the scope, or the top? It is possible that the scope is assembled incorrectly with the tags for right/left and up/down in the wrong turret. And yes, if the scope is mounted 90 degrees canted left (looking from the rear), then as HereDoggy pointed out, you would get the exact results you are explaning to us. So... That would be a turret on the left and a turret on the top. Normal mounting would be a turret on the top, one on the right. (exept for some of the newer tactical models with dots and such that provide three turrets.)
So... If you can provide photo of the scope mounted, and with the caps off of the turrets so we can see what is stamped there, we might be able to help.
-Steve
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Post by: FC on July 24, 2011, 01:04:28 PM
Post by: Raul Duke on July 24, 2011, 06:45:35 PM
I'll just hold out for a new scope. Looking at the NIKON Coyote line.
Post by: Old Dog on July 24, 2011, 07:14:11 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 24, 2011, 07:25:44 PM
-Steve
Post by: FC on July 24, 2011, 07:28:47 PM
Send it in to get fixed, they may cover it under warranty.
Post by: Raul Duke on July 25, 2011, 06:21:05 AM
I'll call and ask, but I just picked up this gun about 2 months ago. I'm not the original owner.
Post by: FC on July 25, 2011, 11:38:57 PM
I'll call and ask, but I just picked up this gun about 2 months ago. I'm not the original owner.
I saw the stated warranty but asking is still free.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 28, 2011, 06:24:47 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on July 28, 2011, 09:24:15 AM
I devised a fast, easy way to boresight my guns. Remove the bolt, if a bolt gun,
"I devised" ???
The poor mans bore scope process has been around since the early 60's. I'm not saying that you didn't invent the process.. But... :rolleyes:
-Steve
I never said I invented the method--stumbled on it is probably more accurate. Never fooled with scopes that much until my eyes got too old for iron sights. I just can't see buying an expensive tool to do something so basic. ;)
Post by: wsmnut on July 28, 2011, 09:53:09 AM
Also you might experiment withe bases you've got on there. Your pictures only show the left side of the bases, but it might be that the large screws will allow you to adjust.
Move the rear to the right.
Good Luck!
Wsmnut
Post by: Raul Duke on July 28, 2011, 10:17:15 AM
Just think, if you already sent it in, you'd probably have it back by now. Tell them you lost the receipt.
I saw 2 yotes last night, and thought the same thing. :bash:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 28, 2011, 07:51:32 PM
Just think, if you already sent it in, you'd probably have it back by now. Tell them you lost the receipt.
I saw 2 yotes last night, and thought the same thing. :bash:
I order you to send it in, NOW ! This will keep going on and on and on. Get the experts to fix it.
Post by: Raul Duke on July 29, 2011, 02:14:36 PM
:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: *#!!@!!X*X!#% :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
So, I'll send it in anyway. Just to have a back up. I'll be shopping for a new scope for the mean time.
I'm still considering this one. Nikon Coyote , If anyone has any recommendations. LMK
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Post by: addicted on July 29, 2011, 10:19:25 PM
:chuckle:
Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 379$
http://www.eurooptic.com/zeiss-conquest-3-9x40-zplex-reticle-hunting-turrets-matte-black-5214609920.aspx (http://www.eurooptic.com/zeiss-conquest-3-9x40-zplex-reticle-hunting-turrets-matte-black-5214609920.aspx)
Meopta Meopro 3-9x42 399$
http://www.eurooptic.com/meopta-meopro-3-9x42-4-riflescope.aspx (http://www.eurooptic.com/meopta-meopro-3-9x42-4-riflescope.aspx)
Minox z3 3-9x40 299$
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=66000 (http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=66000)
Minox z5 3-15x42 379$-399$
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=66020 (http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=66020)
Nikon Buckmasters 4-14x40 309$
http://swfa.com/Nikon-45-14x40-Buckmaster-Riflescope-P42256.aspx (http://swfa.com/Nikon-45-14x40-Buckmaster-Riflescope-P42256.aspx)
Redfield Revo 4-12x40 219$
http://swfa.com/Redfield-4-12x40-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44473.aspx (http://swfa.com/Redfield-4-12x40-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44473.aspx)
Ok, These scopes are likely listed in order of clarity from best to worse. The Zeiss and the meopta might be one of the best deals on the market right now which will get you glass nearly into the heirarchy of excellence at a quarter of the price. The larger magnification models of the zeiss and meopta have target turrets but the price goes up significantly. The Meopta linked has the #4 reticle which is great for low light and longer range because it is both fat and narrow. If you want that reticle on the conquest, add $100 :bash:
The Minox line is coming up with great stuff and I beleive that their prices will continue to rise just like meopta's have. The Minox and the redfield come with a scope cover.The redfield is the only lupy listed because I feel :twocents: it is likely the only lupy line which matches it's cost with performance.
You posted the nikon coyote special. I'm not sure if they have the prostaff glass or the buckmaster glass in those particular models, but if you can get more glass and options for the same price by skipping the camo coating then why not. The Buckmasters are available with all the reticle and paralax options in several power/objective configurations.
These are a few of the scopes i would be intersested in for a coyote rig near the price of the scope you pictured, and all can be had for cheaper at places like www.samplelist.com (http://www.samplelist.com), ebay, and any other second hand/demo site.
:rockin:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 29, 2011, 11:45:07 PM