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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: conwaydave on July 21, 2011, 08:08:13 AM

Title: Scopes for sighting in?
Post by: conwaydave on July 21, 2011, 08:08:13 AM: I just read a post on here about someone uses a scope to sight in there muzzleloader, then takes it off before hunting. I will be sighting in a ML for the first time soon, and is this what most people do? I know you cannot use scopes here in Wa, but do I have to buy a scope for sighting in? And how do you adjust your scope and open sights at the same time? I will admit I am a FNG at this!
Title: Re: Scopes for sighting in?
Post by: JColony on July 21, 2011, 08:29:48 AM: I may be wrong, but I think what they are referring to is working on their loads. Using a scope to work up a fine tuned load that is easier than using the open sights. Again, I could be wrong, but thats my interpretation.
Title: Re: Scopes for sighting in?
Post by: conwaydave on July 21, 2011, 08:47:33 AM: I think your right, but is this what most people do?
Title: Re: Scopes for sighting in?
Post by: rock on July 21, 2011, 08:58:18 AM: I don't if, why should you need the accuracy if you cant put it to use?
Title: Re: Scopes for sighting in?
Post by: Curly on July 21, 2011, 09:50:01 AM: I don't think most people do that. I'd love to try it, but I don't want to hassle getting a scope and scope mounts just for working up loads.
Title: Re: Scopes for sighting in?
Post by: whacker1 on July 21, 2011, 10:13:20 AM: I am one of the individuals that did this. My goal was to find out what shot the best at 100 yards and past.

All of the bullets/powder combinations I tried over that particular spring and summer, shot really tight patterns at 50 yards and in. I wanted to take my ability of using peep sights out of the equation at 100 yards and beyond. I shot several different loads one summer with a scope and found a pretty good bullet / powder combination that was really consistant out to 200 yards. I then took my scope off and started from scratch again and tried to recreate the patterns at 100 yards with the peep sights. My patterns were not as tight at 100 yards with peep sights as they were with the scope, but with the new load my patterns were tighter than when I originally started with peep sights.

This is not normal for most folks that hunt with the muzzleloader, but I have played with multiple bullets / powder combinations, spending hundreds of pesos on bullets and powders over the years. I wanted to improve my data with fewer numbers of shots and less dollars by taking my operation of peep sights out of the equation. Plus if i ever do hunt one of these states that allows scoped muzzleloaders, i now have the rings for it. The rings were cheaper for me than the extra 100 shots I would have taken that summer.

I also wanted to know how well I could shoot with the muzzleloader with a scope. I think I had it down to about less than 6 inch groups at 225 for a 4 shot group, if I recall correctly. This was a couple of seasons ago, and I don't have my data in front of me. I think I can do better with going from 275 grain bullet to 325 grain bullet purely due to the length and balistic co-efficient, but I haven't tried that combination yet.
Title: Re: Scopes for sighting in?
Post by: conwaydave on July 22, 2011, 12:08:14 AM: That's actually pretty cool! I totally understand now. If you have the time to do that, more power to you. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone putting in the time, so they can make the best, clean, accurate shot for a speedy clean kill.