Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 26, 2011, 03:46:32 PM
I'm tossing around two sizes. 285-75-16 or 255-85-16(34"pizza cutters)
Here are the prices I've found so far: Mostly looking at a mud tire but, maybe a A/T
Dick's Tire Haus in Monroe
Cooper SST 285: $240ea
Off brand 285: $225ea
Les Schwab
Toyo mud 285: $330ea
Toyo AT: $305ea
Discount Tire
BFG mud 285: $244
BFG AT 285 $224
Discount Tire
BFG Mud 255 $ $214
Cooper SST 255 $225
I've been running Cooper SST's for the last 60K and my tires are bald. The 7.3L powerstroke is a lot of weight. I'm leaning towards the Coopers again but, the BFG Mud Terrain looks attractive. Anyone have BFG's Mud Terrain's on their HEAVY DIESEL pickups for a while and provide any comment on how they hold up?
ANyone get tires for less than Discount Tire? I priced Costco too and they are more than Discount.
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 26, 2011, 03:54:51 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on July 26, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
They are a load range E tire and your Ford with the PSD will like them better than the Cooper SST's which are a D rated tire. May be wrong here with your tire size, but in a 35/12.50/18 the SST's do not come in an E rated.
The Mrs. has these Nitto's on her '07 Dodge with the Cummins. 40k on the ticker and at least another 20k to go.
Post by: huntnfmly on July 26, 2011, 03:58:03 PM
Post by: Heartsblood on July 26, 2011, 03:58:55 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on July 26, 2011, 04:01:51 PM
Have your Discount contact price the Nitto Trail MT's
They are a load range E tire and your Ford with the PSD will like them better than the Cooper SST's which are a D rated tire. May be wrong here with your tire size, but in a 35/12.50/18 the SST's do not come in an E rated.
The Mrs. has these Nitto's on her '07 Dodge with the Cummins. 40k on the ticker and at least another 20k to go.
Nevermind............
Nitto does not make an MT in a 16".
Post by: HUNT on July 26, 2011, 04:04:30 PM
Discount tire online sells tires on ebay also... Much cheaper than in the stores. Not sure how they do it.
Post by: Buckmark on July 26, 2011, 04:04:36 PM
Have your Discount contact price the Nitto Trail MT'sCooper STT is avail in a Load "E" in the 285's, they also make a load d so do not buy those.
They are a load range E tire and your Ford with the PSD will like them better than the Cooper SST's which are a D rated tire. May be wrong here with your tire size, but in a 35/12.50/18 the SST's do not come in an E rated.
The Mrs. has these Nitto's on her '07 Dodge with the Cummins. 40k on the ticker and at least another 20k to go.
Post by: jackelope on July 26, 2011, 04:13:09 PM
I just got a little less than 60k miles out of a set of Toyo Open Country AT's about the same size. Schwab told me I should expect 70k out of them. I work in a truck shop and am OCD about rotating and tire pressures and stuff so I don't why I only got 58k out of them but thats what I got. They were really great tires in the snow and very quiet on the road but I don't think they're worth that kind of $$.
We've been dinking around online lately looking for the cheapest price on tires and we've found prices cheaper than Discount. We install tires for tirerack.com almost every day on all kinds of different vehicles. They have good prices but there are better to be found. My buddy bought his tires online at 4wheelonline.com and got the best price in town plus free shipping. You still would have to find a place to install them but that shouldn't be too much trouble.
Post by: sebek556 on July 26, 2011, 04:16:13 PM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 26, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
Post by: Heartsblood on July 26, 2011, 04:22:48 PM
dont know how they wear but they look cool!:chuckle: :chuckle:
Wow. Stormtrooper.
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on July 26, 2011, 04:23:35 PM
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Post by: buglebuster on July 26, 2011, 05:38:18 PM
Post by: JBar on July 26, 2011, 05:43:39 PM
http://us.coopertire.com/Tires/Light-Truck/DISCOVERER-S-T-MAXX.aspx (http://us.coopertire.com/Tires/Light-Truck/DISCOVERER-S-T-MAXX.aspx)
Post by: predatorpro on July 26, 2011, 05:52:31 PM
Post by: timberghost72 on July 26, 2011, 05:59:15 PM
I forgot to add my fuel milage dropped significantly with the 285's
Post by: PA BEN on July 26, 2011, 06:36:12 PM
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Post by: huntnfmly on July 26, 2011, 07:10:30 PM
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Post by: predator guy on July 26, 2011, 08:11:18 PM
Post by: timberghost72 on July 26, 2011, 08:25:18 PM
Cooper stt's are the way to go. Bfg mudd terrain km2's are ok, but pricey, and lose tread quickly. I've have my cooper's on for a looong time, and they still look brand new
How do those stt's perform offroad, snow, mud, rock, wheelin?
Buy mud terrains for offroad use and stick with AT's for ride quality and wear on the road.
i love my cooper stts i have 37'' dose any one know where to find chains for them
You could try Six Robblees
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 26, 2011, 08:30:09 PM
i love my cooper stts i have 37'' dose any one know where to find chains for them
Schwabs in spanaway had chains for my 35" and there was a fair amount of room left. Not sure if they would fit 37s though. Also if you have a smaller set you could probably add some links
Post by: Rick on July 26, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Discount Tire can order any tire you want. I went in a few months ago and priced some Toyos from DT. They were about 30% less per tires than Uncle Les.
IMO,DT has customer service that rivals any Les Schwab I've ever been in.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 26, 2011, 09:05:10 PM
Les Schwab total installed price for a 285 mud tire (toyo) is $1,600 for my truck.
Discount tire is offering free repairs, rotations AND BALANCING of a BFG or Cooper for $1,000. (Cooper was $100 more than BFG on quote).
Before my Current Coopers I had Goodyear MTR Kevlar. They were HORRIBLE tires on the Diesel. At 20K they still had tread but, no traction. My Coopers bald have more traction on wet grass than those tires had with tread. I'd STRONGLY advise anyone from ever buying those unless you put them on a Jeep rock crawler and air them down to nothing.
First tire was a Toyo A/T 285 on my F-350. They lasted about 50K. They were ok but, I'm off road training dogs in wet grassy fields/mud and up in the mountains running around quite a bit. I have a little HOnda I kick around town in so, highway daily driving doesn't happen a lot anymore except for trips.
Thanks for the input, keep it coming.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 26, 2011, 09:07:04 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 26, 2011, 09:08:45 PM
:twocents:
Hap-Check your pm's.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 26, 2011, 09:11:59 PM
go ask those other companys that arent schwabs what a tire costs after warranty, new tire fee, disposal fee, mounting, balancing and having a moron put them on for you
I got paper quotes with all of the same features except the guys at Discount said lifetime BALANCING was included. Price for BFG's was $500 less than Schwab out the door with tax included. I really like the Schwab guys, the crew in Kent near 212th did all the trucks for the company I used to work for but, I cannot take a $500 hit just to be loyal.
Post by: jackelope on July 26, 2011, 09:19:49 PM
go ask those other companys that arent schwabs what a tire costs after warranty, new tire fee, disposal fee, mounting, balancing and having a moron put them on for youWe charge $60 straight up to mount and balance a set of 4 tires. We don't charge disposal, new tire fee(whatever that is), weights, valve stems, any of that crap.
Go ask Schwabs why you can't do a brake job without replacing the calipers too. Morons is a strong word to use when the Schwabs guys won't do a brake job without selling new calipers. Every other shop in town doesn't "require" replacing the calipers but for some reason Schwabs does.
They think they have the market cornered on customer service because of their free rotations and balance, etc. Their prices are higher than anyone and they're not doing anything that anyone else isn't doing too...oh except making people buy brake calipers when they don't need them.
The only thing I don't agree with with Discount is when you have tire pressure sensors in your wheels they charge you to rebuild them when they replace your tires. I don't know what the need to do this is. We replace tires with TPM sensors in them all the time. As long as a guy doesn't break them, they work just fine when we're done.
:dunno:
Post by: Caseyd on July 26, 2011, 09:23:13 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 26, 2011, 09:25:19 PM
go ask those other companys that arent schwabs what a tire costs after warranty, new tire fee, disposal fee, mounting, balancing and having a moron put them on for youWe charge $60 straight up to mount and balance a set of 4 tires. We don't charge disposal, new tire fee(whatever that is), weights, valve stems, any of that crap.
Go ask Schwabs why you can't do a brake job without replacing the calipers too. Morons is a strong word to use when the Schwabs guys won't do a brake job without selling new calipers. Every other shop in town doesn't "require" replacing the calipers but for some reason Schwabs does.
They think they have the market cornered on customer service because of their free rotations and balance, etc. Their prices are higher than anyone and they're not doing anything that anyone else isn't doing too...oh except making people buy brake calipers when they don't need them.
The only thing I don't agree with with Discount is when you have tire pressure sensors in your wheels they charge you to rebuild them when they replace your tires. I don't know what the need to do this is. We replace tires with TPM sensors in them all the time. As long as a guy doesn't break them, they work just fine when we're done.
:dunno:
That's funny. When I got there for a quote I asked about doing brakes too and I about passed out. Did them myself a few days ago. Turns out I needed a new caliper on the drivers front. I replaced all pads front and rear, two front calipers for $240 and a six pack of 16oz buds. Took about 3 hours for me to finish. Was really easy.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 26, 2011, 09:26:01 PM
Toyo M-55
Looked at them,
$355 each!!
Post by: fair-chase on July 26, 2011, 09:30:48 PM
Post by: timberghost72 on July 26, 2011, 09:52:54 PM
go ask those other companys that arent schwabs what a tire costs after warranty, new tire fee, disposal fee, mounting, balancing and having a moron put them on for youWe charge $60 straight up to mount and balance a set of 4 tires. We don't charge disposal, new tire fee(whatever that is), weights, valve stems, any of that crap.
Go ask Schwabs why you can't do a brake job without replacing the calipers too. Morons is a strong word to use when the Schwabs guys won't do a brake job without selling new calipers. Every other shop in town doesn't "require" replacing the calipers but for some reason Schwabs does.
They think they have the market cornered on customer service because of their free rotations and balance, etc. Their prices are higher than anyone and they're not doing anything that anyone else isn't doing too...oh except making people buy brake calipers when they don't need them.
The only thing I don't agree with with Discount is when you have tire pressure sensors in your wheels they charge you to rebuild them when they replace your tires. I don't know what the need to do this is. We replace tires with TPM sensors in them all the time. As long as a guy doesn't break them, they work just fine when we're done.
:dunno:
Don't forget they will gladly leave your lug nuts loose on at least 1 wheel. :chuckle: I can't count how many wheels I have retorqued on cars that recently came from them. Even on my wifes SUV. She was on I-5 when her LR wheel came off at 55 mph. It was at Schwabs a week earlier. Luckily she was able to pull off without any accident or other vehicles involved.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 26, 2011, 10:03:00 PM
go ask those other companys that arent schwabs what a tire costs after warranty, new tire fee, disposal fee, mounting, balancing and having a moron put them on for youWe charge $60 straight up to mount and balance a set of 4 tires. We don't charge disposal, new tire fee(whatever that is), weights, valve stems, any of that crap.
Go ask Schwabs why you can't do a brake job without replacing the calipers too. Morons is a strong word to use when the Schwabs guys won't do a brake job without selling new calipers. Every other shop in town doesn't "require" replacing the calipers but for some reason Schwabs does.
They think they have the market cornered on customer service because of their free rotations and balance, etc. Their prices are higher than anyone and they're not doing anything that anyone else isn't doing too...oh except making people buy brake calipers when they don't need them.
The only thing I don't agree with with Discount is when you have tire pressure sensors in your wheels they charge you to rebuild them when they replace your tires. I don't know what the need to do this is. We replace tires with TPM sensors in them all the time. As long as a guy doesn't break them, they work just fine when we're done.
:dunno:
Don't forget they will gladly leave your lug nuts loose on at least 1 wheel. :chuckle: I can't count how many wheels I have retorqued on cars that recently came from them. Even on my wifes SUV. She was on I-5 when her LR wheel came off at 55 mph. It was at Schwabs a week earlier. Luckily she was able to pull off without any accident or other vehicles involved.
I'm sure stuff can happen anywhere- The company I used to work for always used Schwab on all of our fleet and we never had any issues or problems. Nothing but great service. I have nothing bad to say about them at all. If you want a great store the guys on East Valley in Kent are A++. They cared for our brakes, alignments, trailers and tires on about 15 dually trucks/trailers switching to snow tires and new tires a few times a year. The company discount was big compared to what I have to pay now- Can't afford it without using the company name for pricing....
Post by: Bean Counter on July 26, 2011, 10:56:06 PM
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Post by: Cylvertip on July 27, 2011, 08:27:31 AM
Prior to that though, I have run two sets of 35" BFG MT's on the truck. Loved them. Got 70k out of one set and sold the second set with 60K on them for like $200. They still had 1/4 inch of tread. The only reason for the switch to Cooper was that when I went to put new tread on for winter, there was no stock of BFG's to be found as it was right when they were switching tread patterns. Rotate them at every oil change ( every 5K) and the BFG MT's will do great.
Most places will rotate and balance for free and do a prorated road hazard warranty if you ask for it. To compare tire prices, I always ask for those to be included in the "out the door" price - that way nothing creeps in at the end.
Scwab is always way higher priced - apples to apples. I have had some shady stuff tried on me by them - like trying to sell me a new set of shocks and struts that I "had to have" because mine were wore out - even though it had all been replaced within the last 1000 miles..... They will still fix you flats for free even if you did not by your tires from them.
Walmart has good pricing too.
Post by: swanny on July 27, 2011, 08:27:53 AM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 27, 2011, 09:28:45 AM
I'm thinking I'll have a level kit put on first. Maybe next week. Got to get the head gasket job done on my GF's Honda. Finishing that today. I had every car in the stable broke down last week. My truck break job, her Honda blew a head gasket. My Honda needs a new distributor(I hope that is all).....all at the same time....what a PITA!! :bash:
Post by: thinkingman on July 27, 2011, 11:03:07 PM
Discount will match the price or you can have them shipped and save the sales tax.
I have had great luck with Michelin LTX A/T's on three different vehicles.
Post by: Armadillo on July 27, 2011, 11:11:42 PM
Post by: FC on July 27, 2011, 11:19:46 PM
if you cant decide go with the michelin LTX M and S,,,very nice tire.. Get the E load tires they're 8 ply and good for 60k on a 3/4 ton :twocents:
I had a set of these a couple trucks ago, they were amazing in ice and snow.
Post by: Armadillo on July 27, 2011, 11:25:50 PM
Post by: CMG on July 28, 2011, 09:18:56 AM