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Equipment & Gear => Archery Gear => Topic started by: Arrow on August 02, 2011, 01:59:20 PM

Title: Lighted Nocks?
Post by: Arrow on August 02, 2011, 01:59:20 PM: How many of you guys use the lighted nocks and what are the pro's and con’s of using them? If I wanted to use them on just a couple arrows would they fly the same or different from the ones without? :dunno:
Title: Re: Lighted Nocks?
Post by: brianmtsinc on August 02, 2011, 02:03:17 PM: I love them. They fly the same for me, BUT, unfortunately they are illegal for hunting..... but they do help me train my eye to follow the arrow after I release :twocents:
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Post by: Button Nubbs on August 02, 2011, 02:12:35 PM: Uh oh... Here we go again... :chuckle:
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 02, 2011, 09:03:46 PM: I have shot them but never used them on game animals. They shoot just fine.
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Post by: Arrow on August 03, 2011, 10:14:40 AM: Yes I was talking about practice shooting only. Just think it would be cool to see them fly
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Post by: bloodhound on August 03, 2011, 10:19:02 AM: does an arrow fly through the woods if no one sees it? i dont use them but i think its completely stupid we cant.
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Post by: alwinearcher on August 03, 2011, 10:19:09 AM: They are fun to shoot..
They will fly slightly diffrent then an arrow with a standard nock but not enough diffrent for
Most to notice.
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Post by: dscubame on August 03, 2011, 01:55:34 PM: I read on another thread about all the pro's these lighted nocks provide. Wonder why they are not legal in WA?
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Post by: Machias on August 03, 2011, 02:23:16 PM: :chuckle:
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Post by: dscubame on August 03, 2011, 02:24:08 PM: :chuckle:
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Post by: Smokey Bear on August 07, 2011, 05:59:48 PM: The WA law states that you can't have anything electric mounted to your bow or arrow. I believe it is because WDFW feels it gives you an unfair advantage to have lighted nocks, rangefinders, electric sights, etc.
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Post by: sebek556 on August 07, 2011, 06:10:56 PM: its becuase they want you to loose more arrows in the woods so you have to buy more and they get more taxes from it.. duh all the depo o fish and wildlife cares about anymore is $$$$ :bash:
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Post by: halflife65 on August 08, 2011, 08:30:45 AM: I just tape a flashlight facing backwards on my arrows. That way I can rip it off real quick if a game warden shows up.
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Post by: lokidog on August 08, 2011, 09:08:41 AM: Quote from: dscubame on August 03, 2011, 01:55:34 PM
I read on another thread about all the pro's these lighted nocks provide. Wonder why they are not legal in WA?

Because wdfw doesn't think we are smart enough to differentiate between electronic nocks and electronic laser range finders.... :bash:

Or maybe the ones that write the regs can't figure out the right words to use.... :dunno:
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Post by: gallion_t on August 08, 2011, 09:20:45 AM: I took one of the Eyes In The woods class and as the game wardens running the class explained the reasoning behind not electronics attached to the bow or arrow was because archery hunting is suppose to be a more primative meathod of hunting and adding electronics strays away from that. There maybe be a lot of benefits and very few disadvantages to them, but i guess the line has to be drawn somewhere.

Also unless it has changed recently you cannot qualify a deer in the pope and young if you harvested it with the lighted nocks. Not that that makes the deer any less of a trophy.
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Post by: MDGrand on August 10, 2011, 10:03:10 AM: yeah... I will echo.. "Here we go again.."

I think its only a matter of time until the let lighted knocks in.. its an "after the effect thing." It does not compare to flashlights or rangefinders.. it does not help with aiming or taking after hours shots... The best thing it does is help with knowing your shot placement and retreiving the arrow.. which in my humble opinion can mean finding the animal faster which is more humane.

many will argue different, and it usually involves the "slippery slope" arguement..

But I am on the side of allowing them.

We will see :)
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Post by: Special T on August 10, 2011, 10:09:28 AM: One of our club members at Silver Arrow Bowman Bought some really cool vanes from Gary at Riverside archery. They function much like the fiber optic pins on yout bow. on the back side of the vane(facing you) there are 2-3 dots that collect and focus the light back twards the shooter. I shot one of the arrow and watched many of his fly. I would say that you don't have much need for an eletronic ilimonock with one of these... :twocents:
This is the product
http://norwayindustries.com/products/zeon-fusion.aspx (http://norwayindustries.com/products/zeon-fusion.aspx)
Title: Re: Lighted Nocks?
Post by: jackelope on August 10, 2011, 10:12:06 AM: Quote from: MDGrand on August 10, 2011, 10:03:10 AM
yeah... I will echo.. "Here we go again.."

A couple guys on this thread are new here.
:chuckle:
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Post by: Button Nubbs on August 10, 2011, 11:18:30 AM: As for the zeon fusion vanes, I bought some. My thoughts on them were they were too stiff and I didn't notice any increased visibility over my blazers of the same color. They just sit in my box now.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 10, 2011, 03:20:52 PM: I agree with buttons, those vanes are to stiff for me. I put a lot of offset on my 4 vanetec hps which are twins to the blazers "almost" I like them better because of the base. The blazers are flat and can have a hard time bonding evenly to the shaft. The hps have a cupped base, that it the only main difference.
Title: Re: Lighted Nocks?
Post by: buckfvr on August 10, 2011, 05:39:41 PM: SInce the WDFW argument is keeping the primative weapons primative, I doubt we'll see them legal. If we were to see them legal, we may also be looking at splitting archery seasons with the far more primative traditional gang.......want to go there ???? not me.
Title: Re: Lighted Nocks?
Post by: rasbo on August 10, 2011, 05:52:07 PM: Im gonna wrap a bandana just behind the broadhead,dip it in kerosene,ignite it,I should be able to see where my arrow is headed then,plus it should be easy to find... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Lighted Nocks?
Post by: mtbiker on August 10, 2011, 08:31:09 PM: Quote from: rasbo on August 10, 2011, 05:52:07 PM
Im gonna wrap a bandana just behind the broadhead,dip it in kerosene,ignite it,I should be able to see where my arrow is headed then,plus it should be easy to find... :chuckle:

LMAO! Yeah, and the animal will just stand there with a "what the hell" look on its face. Sounds like a good tactic to me! ;)
Title: Re: Lighted Nocks?
Post by: MDGrand on August 11, 2011, 08:43:55 AM: Quote from: buckfvr on August 10, 2011, 05:39:41 PM
SInce the WDFW argument is keeping the primative weapons primative, I doubt we'll see them legal. If we were to see them legal, we may also be looking at splitting archery seasons with the far more primative traditional gang.......want to go there ???? not me.

Good point!...

But. I think its only a matter of time that it changes because the guys that like the primitive stuff are usually older archers who got into bowhunting when recurves were the ideal. Not to say there are not young hunters out there that are bowhunting with a recurve too, but as more people pick up a bow, it more than likely will be a compound with new technology and as that generation takes over spots held on WDFW board, it will change.

i.e. you can now use copper jacketed bullets in muzzleloaders.. definitely, not "primitive."

Just my :twocents: :)
Title: Re: Lighted Nocks?
Post by: Lowedog on August 11, 2011, 09:05:23 AM: Quote from: rasbo on August 10, 2011, 05:52:07 PM
Im gonna wrap a bandana just behind the broadhead,dip it in kerosene,ignite it,I should be able to see where my arrow is headed then,plus it should be easy to find... :chuckle:

I prefer a stick of dynamite Duke's of Hazzard style!
Title: Re: Lighted Nocks?
Post by: Snapshot on August 11, 2011, 07:47:09 PM: :jacked:

Adding weight to the nock end of an arrow isn't ideal, Arrow, but if you are curious about how it might affect your arrow flight, you could buy some and find out. Or you could shove something that will add the same amount of weight into the nock end of a shaft and see how it flies.
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Post by: jstone on August 11, 2011, 08:04:25 PM: Waist of money. 20 to 30 dollars for a nock?
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Post by: hillbilli on August 16, 2011, 09:11:29 PM: i got a few of the lighted nocks that i found on clearance and tried using them in MO. arrow flight wasn't different enough to matter in my bow. The problem i had was when i put an arrow on the string and didnt shoot. (which was all the time) i'd put the arrow back in the quiver, then look down and see the nock still attached to the string- as they fit just a little looser than the regular nocks and would pull out. The other annoying thing was bumping the quiver while getting into your treestand or whatever, and as it started to get dark i'd look down and see my quiver lit up like a christmas tree! i have however learned a trick from an old deerkiller and i now put a quarter inch stripe of reflective tape (automotive dept) above and below the fletch.. amazing what this will do when you shoot a deer in the last 30 minutes of daylight and have to look for your arrow or your deer right after dark by flashlight...
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Post by: Special T on August 17, 2011, 09:22:55 AM: I like that low tech/cost idea Hillbilli. :tup: just might try it!
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Post by: NWWABOWHNTR on August 17, 2011, 09:32:42 AM: I use reflective tape for my hunting arrow wraps. As it gets dark you can shine your flashlite and it will light up your lost arrow. Come to think of it, maybe I should use that on my 3D arrows too... LOL