Post by: Curly on August 05, 2011, 08:50:33 PM
It's no secret that the tribe has an image problem with non-native sportsmen in this state; so why doesn't the tribe take a public position on wolves more in line with what the sportsmen of this state would like to see?
And along those same lines, why can't native Americans go take care of the overpopulation problem of Sealions below Bonneville? I realize sealions are federally protected but so are whales and they got the feds to go along with killing whales? Seems like they could at least lobby to do something.
If they could kill wolves and sealions, they would become heroes in the eyes of many sportsmen. They may get some flack from the wolf and sealion huggers, but those people have a soft spot for native Americans anyway..........
I just figure that if they can release antelope without consent of WDFW, then why not do other things that will help out wildlife, even if the feds and State don't like it? :dunno:
Post by: bobcat on August 05, 2011, 09:15:08 PM
Good point costal, that was the point I was making, I just get caught up and a little upset at hunters that abuse the system, native or not. I do have one question and maybe it has been addressed already on this site. Are the Natives allowed to hunt wolves in Washington or in other states? That would at least be some help to keep them in check.
I know I'm 9 hours late but some of us that have to get up early with kids have an early bed time. Since Coastal gave a good legal answer I'm just going to say at least for us, the Yakama's we don't hunt wolves and if I see somebody with a wolf you bet your A$$ I'm going to gather the intel and report them ASAP. The wolf is a revered animal here to those that still follow the teachings of their elders and it is one to be respected.
If the Tribe ever does manage the wolf population that I know is up there near Mt. Adams and they along with the State and Feds admit it then they would more than likely let our Wildlife Managers handle the control and management of the packs.
And Sebek, I wasn't placing either one of you in the same boat just responding to the 1st post by "get one leakin" and his post contained your post so you were kind of a victim of crossfire, sorry.
If you have any other questions then ask away.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 05, 2011, 09:57:41 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 05, 2011, 10:17:08 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 05, 2011, 10:21:14 PM
Seems that I remember a member of the Yakama tribe getting busted recently for killing bald eagles. So apparently they do have to follow some of our laws.
The tribal courts punish members, so I bet he got slapped on the wrist and is still gonna do it if he feels like it.
Post by: buckfvr on August 06, 2011, 03:40:05 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 21, 2011, 08:44:58 AM
The tribes can legally manage wolves that have been federally delisted (such as the eastern 1/3 of Washington).
I was told by another inside source that the Colville tribe met with WDFW and notified them that they plan to manage wolves on the Colville Reservation and on the northern half where thay can also hunt which includes parts of Stevens, Ferry, and Okanogan counties. I was also told that the Ferry County commissioners were going to attend the meeting and planned to fully support the tribe in managing wolves on the reservation and on the northern half. :)
So if all that is true, and my sources were reliable persons who are involved in tribal and county government, then I assume the tribe will have to prepare their own management plan and submit it for federal approval before management can begin.
Post by: boneaddict on August 21, 2011, 10:26:02 AM
Post by: C-Money on August 21, 2011, 03:02:52 PM
It specifically states in the Colville regs wolves are protected, though speak with some of its members that ALWAYS have a gun in the rack and they will tell you they will kill them on site.
GOOD! :tup:
Post by: Little Red Wagon on August 21, 2011, 04:29:19 PM
i belive the tribes r working with the feds on a salution to the sealion problem in those areas...
Post by: turbo on August 25, 2011, 08:09:13 AM
It specifically states in the Colville regs wolves are protected, though speak with some of its members that ALWAYS have a gun in the rack and they will tell you they will kill them on site.
Finally, something I can agree with.
Post by: runamuk on August 25, 2011, 08:13:12 AM
Post by: bobcat on August 25, 2011, 09:01:11 AM
Post by: seth30 on August 25, 2011, 09:09:20 AM
Maybe they're like most people and just think sea lions are too cute to kill. :dunno::yeah:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 25, 2011, 09:35:30 AM
Maybe they're like most people and just think sea lions are too cute to kill. :dunno:Once they've smelled one, that will probably go away.
Post by: Special T on August 25, 2011, 04:43:13 PM
Post by: Yak-NDN on August 26, 2011, 01:43:02 PM
Post by: runamuk on August 26, 2011, 01:48:27 PM
To my understanding wolves are not under Federal protection? If that is the fact than they are only state protected and I am not trying to rub you all wrong but the state has little to no say on Tribal issues. Most Yakama's that see a wolf well be taking the shot. Federal laws apply and State not so much.endangered species are under federal jurisdiction which is why states have such a rough go of delisting...so yes indeed they are protected like bald eagles and any other federally protected species....
Post by: Curly on August 26, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
To my understanding wolves are not under Federal protection? If that is the fact than they are only state protected and I am not trying to rub you all wrong but the state has little to no say on Tribal issues. Most Yakama's that see a wolf well be taking the shot. Federal laws apply and State not so much.endangered species are under federal jurisdiction which is why states have such a rough go of delisting...so yes indeed they are protected like bald eagles and any other federally protected species....
Shhhhh.......don't tell them that. We need all the help we can get in ridding wolves in this state. Seems like the tribes could help out.....
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 26, 2011, 03:07:15 PM
Bald Eagles are Fed Protected and we cannot kill them only possess them. Again, we still have to follow Federal Guidelines and the Yakama Nation has tried exterminating the Sea Lions and the biggest groups against the Lethal removal has been the Tree Huggers, Conservation Groups and etc. It's a battle still taking place in Federal Court and I would love to see the Sea Lions go away.
Any other questions don't hesitate to ask.
Post by: Curly on August 26, 2011, 03:12:24 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 26, 2011, 03:20:02 PM
And last time I checked none of the non-lethal tactics to scare them away were working and relocation has proved to be useless because they eventually made their way back up the coastline back to the Columbia and the Dams.
Again, the Tribe has tried to deal with it themselves but due to Federal Protection they still have to seek permission and if the Tribe had its way they would've used lethal tactics long time ago.
Post by: gaddy on August 26, 2011, 04:02:30 PM
Post by: Yak-NDN on August 26, 2011, 04:28:45 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 26, 2011, 04:35:21 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 26, 2011, 04:37:04 PM
Warning Warning Lost wolf cross dog's (DOG'S) I lost my wolf cross dogs in WA State. I have bread these dogs to be extremely aggressive when I was traveling the crest trail from OR north They got away so please kill on sight. Yes kill on site. I lost six breading pairs.dude whatever your smokin please send some my way :yeah:
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 26, 2011, 04:49:30 PM
Post by: Bustyn on August 26, 2011, 05:07:19 PM
Warning Warning Lost wolf cross dog's (DOG'S) I lost my wolf cross dogs in WA State. I have bread these dogs to be extremely aggressive when I was traveling the crest trail from OR north They got away so please kill on sight. Yes kill on site. I lost six breading pairs.dude whatever your smokin please send some my way :yeah:
Something tells me you missed the subtle nuance of his post.
I for one would be happy to assist this gentleman in locating and eliminating his extremely aggressive breeding pairs of dogs that look EXACTLY like wolves. Unfortunately there's that pesky prison time problem, and I have an issue with losing those hunting privileges that I so treasure.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on August 26, 2011, 05:16:14 PM
Something tells me you missed the subtle nuance of his post.
:yeah:
Its called "irony"
Post by: FC on August 26, 2011, 05:43:41 PM
Something tells me you missed the subtle nuance of his post.
:yeah:
Its called "irony"
Too bad too, that was actually pretty funny!
Post by: Yak-NDN on August 26, 2011, 06:29:03 PM
Warning Warning Lost wolf cross dog's (DOG'S) I lost my wolf cross dogs in WA State. I have bread these dogs to be extremely aggressive when I was traveling the crest trail from OR north They got away so please kill on sight. Yes kill on site. I lost six breading pairs.dude whatever your smokin please send some my way :yeah:
Is this guy for real? lol