Post by: Michelle_Nelson on June 19, 2008, 10:04:51 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 19, 2008, 10:06:47 PM
someone will come on here and say you don't need 4x4...i call b.s. i'll pull you out when you get stuck.
:chuckle:
Post by: DeKuma on June 19, 2008, 10:07:19 PM
Unfortunately, I cannot afford the gas to hunt in the damn thing!!
Need a four cylinder hunting rig!
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on June 19, 2008, 10:26:42 PM
Post by: Houndhunter on June 19, 2008, 10:27:03 PM
gotta say them toyota pick ups gota be the best huntin rig out there. we use to have a 94 4x4 4banger and i loved it, got 25mpg. but the head went out and now we got a 98, little hard gettin used to it but there pretty similar
back to the topic yes we got 4 wheel drive
Post by: saylean on June 19, 2008, 10:29:18 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on June 19, 2008, 10:38:21 PM
But, I have probably put more game in the freezer over the years out of cars and 2wd stuff.....We once hauled an elk in the trunk of a two door escort, with a deer over the hood. Maybe six miles to camp, to load it all into a truck later...
A Quartered Cow with a nice old blacktail buck, cow season used to overlap late buck....a few years back...
Post by: MIKEXRAY on June 20, 2008, 05:43:49 AM
Post by: sisu on June 20, 2008, 05:52:06 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on June 20, 2008, 06:01:27 AM
But as Iceman said above, I hav also hauled tons of critters in two wheel drive vehicles. My Nova and my poor Dodge Colt..lol
Post by: boneaddict on June 20, 2008, 06:01:53 AM
Post by: Sagedawg on June 20, 2008, 08:02:25 AM
Sage
Post by: GoldTip on June 20, 2008, 08:29:51 AM
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Post by: Bscman on June 20, 2008, 08:44:11 AM
With a locker, an innertube full of sand in the bed, and decent quality tires it did very well. I can't count how many times I met up with guys in 4x4 rigs that had no idea how I made it as far as I did.
That being said, the current rig is 4x4 and I am much more at ease when I take it into the woods. I wouldn't choose to go back to a 2wd, as it can get pretty stressful when conditions get rough....but 4x4 (for me) is only useful in about 10% of my offroad adventures--and most of that account for SNOW.
There are just too many gates in Western WA to get your truck very far back into the rough stuff.
Post by: boneaddict on June 20, 2008, 09:03:09 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on June 20, 2008, 09:12:45 AM
Post by: bobcat on June 20, 2008, 09:16:49 AM
Post by: Intruder on June 20, 2008, 09:19:22 AM
I got the same advice Goldtip, and followed it just like you did. ;)
+1 (most of the time anyway)
Post by: Bscman on June 20, 2008, 10:14:36 AM
Great point Iceman. I would hate to be without low range. In fact most of the time with my Bronco II I drive around the woods in low range without locking the hubs in. I don't need the 4wd but the low range sure does help. A lot of the time I may be in 4th or 5th, but for those steep hills it's sure nice to shift it down into 1st and go into a slow crawl.
Be careful doing this.
I've seen more than my share of blown up transfer cases from people leaving their rigs in low range but cruising along in 4th or 5th at a decent speed. Losta guys new the offroading do this between trailheads, and it puts a LOT of stress on your T-case and can create a lot of heat.
It's a lot like cruising around at 80mph on the freeway, in high, with 4x4 engaged...the transfer case is designed for low speed, no high.
Also, I was always taught NOT to engage 4x4 when the hubs aren't spun in.
However, it is okay to be in 2wd with the hubs spun in...you just won't get as good of mileage, and have to mind your tight turns.
Post by: bobcat on June 20, 2008, 10:41:55 AM
Post by: jackelope on June 20, 2008, 05:12:36 PM
OK, but how would driving in Low Range and 4th gear be different than being in High Range and 1st or 2nd? Either way the transfer case is engaged. :dunno:
t-case and engine is spinning a hell of a lot faster in low range. 4low should be maxed around 25mph and not used at all on dry pavement IMO.
Post by: jackelope on June 20, 2008, 05:15:15 PM
I got the same advice Goldtip, and followed it just like you did. ;)
that info works great as long as you don't have manual locking hubs. you can leave the hubs locked in but t-case in 2wd though for short periods of time. manual hubs that i've always had, the wheels have to make a revolution before they engage.
Post by: MuleySniper on June 20, 2008, 05:17:15 PM
MS
:twocents:
Post by: rainshadow1 on June 20, 2008, 05:21:33 PM
Prior to getting into predator hunting I could sneak around and get alot done with a 2wd. But now my hubs are locked in all winter long! Couldn't live without it!
Post by: M_ray on June 20, 2008, 05:25:22 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 20, 2008, 06:44:04 PM
OK, but how would driving in Low Range and 4th gear be different than being in High Range and 1st or 2nd? Either way the transfer case is engaged. :dunno:
t-case and engine is spinning a hell of a lot faster in low range. 4low should be maxed around 25mph and not used at all on dry pavement IMO.
Oh definitely, I agree about the pavement. I would never have it in low range on pavement. I'm only talking about steep and muddy and/or wet roads and 15 to 20mph is as fast as I'm talking about in 4th or 5th gears. What I'm wondering about is driving in 4wd, either high or low range, without locking the hubs in? Like I said I'll use low range quite often when I need it for the steep hills, but I'm usually too lazy to get out and lock the hubs in.
Post by: bowhuntin on June 20, 2008, 07:28:17 PM
OK, but how would driving in Low Range and 4th gear be different than being in High Range and 1st or 2nd? Either way the transfer case is engaged. :dunno:
t-case and engine is spinning a hell of a lot faster in low range. 4low should be maxed around 25mph and not used at all on dry pavement IMO.
Oh definitely, I agree about the pavement. I would never have it in low range on pavement. I'm only talking about steep and muddy and/or wet roads and 15 to 20mph is as fast as I'm talking about in 4th or 5th gears. What I'm wondering about is driving in 4wd, either high or low range, without locking the hubs in? Like I said I'll use low range quite often when I need it for the steep hills, but I'm usually too lazy to get out and lock the hubs in.
I always thought if you didn't lock your hubs your 4 wheel drive would not engage. :dunno: I also got the same advice as goldtip and it sure helps keep me out of trouble. Only been stuck once. I couldn't see hunting without a rig with 4x4 capability, I do see every year though a guy that mobs around the hills in early and late bow seasons in a 2wd toyota tercel. He just chains his little car up and drives all over in the late season when there is snow on the ground.
Post by: cascademountainhunter on June 20, 2008, 08:34:39 PM
Post by: PolarBear on June 20, 2008, 09:59:20 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 20, 2008, 10:06:55 PM
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I always thought if you didn't lock your hubs your 4 wheel drive would not engage.
everything is turning all the way to the front hubs...they are just disengaged. it's 2wd with everything turning.
bobcat, when i had hubs i had to lock, i just left them locked and shifted the t-case back and forth if needed.
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Post by: Bscman on June 24, 2008, 05:54:59 PM
That means when you're doing 25mph in LOW range, the transfer case is spinning just as fast as it would be at nearly 75mph in HIGH range....
Most transfer cases use a chain of sorts, they simply aren't designed for high speed (prolonged or momentary). You'll have MUCH less wear driving around in 1st or 2nd in high range than you would in 4th or 5th in low range.
It's very rare I even put my 4x4 in Low range...only it "techinical" areas where extremely slow speeds are needed. Otherwise, 1st/high is more than low enough.
As for engaging your 4x4 with the hubs UNLOCKED...
Everything is turning like it would in 4x4, but there is no resistance on the front driveshaft/differential--because the hubs aren't locked in. It's not designed to function like this, and again...you can burn up the transfer case.
Post by: edmondshunter on June 26, 2008, 10:26:40 PM
Post by: robodad on June 26, 2008, 10:47:14 PM
I guess now I would rather 4X4 but in a Subaru or 4cyl Jeep or Suziki or something with better fuel economy. My 04 GMC 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax 4X4 SLT is just on the spendy side to be bombing around the backroads with !!! (by backroads I mean those that are off the logging roads even) :chuckle:
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He hunts mainly duck so towing a boat is far more important than 4 wheel ;)
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