Post by: 180-GRAIN on August 18, 2011, 08:15:49 AM
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Post by: Austrian Hunter on August 18, 2011, 08:47:30 AM
See if you can find the worm on here and research it :twocents:
Post by: shanevg on August 18, 2011, 08:50:52 AM
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Post by: quadrafire on August 18, 2011, 09:05:03 AM
Not sure on types of worms? these were long skinny and round. assuming round worms.Were they in the Gut (inside of intestine), or free in the abdominal cavity? Roundworms would be inside the gut lumen.
Oh yea-----congrats on the bear
Post by: 180-GRAIN on August 18, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
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Post by: 87Ford on August 18, 2011, 10:13:38 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,57934.msg713551.html#msg713551 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,57934.msg713551.html#msg713551)
Post by: dirty24d on August 18, 2011, 10:14:12 AM
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Post by: 180-GRAIN on August 18, 2011, 10:50:50 AM
Extra protein for you.Uffff!!!!!!!!!!! Thats nasty!
Post by: quadrafire on August 18, 2011, 10:51:49 AM
You think it will be ok to eat?
Yes. The meat will not be contaminated with the roundworms.
Post by: addicted on August 18, 2011, 10:54:28 AM
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Post by: ouchfoss on August 18, 2011, 12:52:12 PM
as long as they aren't in the meat just the guts your fine
:yeah:
I would bet that it is probably more common than people think to have round worms in the guts of bear. How many people actually cut open the intestins to see what is crawling around in there. I decided to cut the intestins open on a bear I got 5 years ago because I was thinking of making a traditional style bow string for my longbow and after seeing a footlong nasty roundworm wiggling around I decided I might try to make a string out of something else. :puke: A friend of mine got a bear a few years ago that actually had weird worm things and a bunch of nasty sores in the meat. It was actually a healthy looking bear until the hide came off of it. :yike:
Post by: quadrafire on August 18, 2011, 01:07:00 PM
This was an article out of Massachusets, but it gives you some idea whats out there
If these worms were in the GI tract I would eat, If I found some in the muscle I would not.
What kinds of parasites affect the black bear?
Black bears have been reported to host more than 30 external and internal parasites, including coccidian protozoans, flukes, tapeworms, intestinal roundworms, lungworms, filarial worms, lice, fleas, ticks, and mites. Roundworms (Toxascaris sp.) were the most common endoparasite in New York, occurring in 31% of bears sampled. In the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, 90% of bears were infected with the larval form of Dirofilaria ursi, a roundworm related to the dog heartworm. In New York, 46% of bears harbored this parasite.
Trichinellosis, or muscleworm infection, is a parasitic infection of humans (and domestic animals) resulting from the invasion of muscle tissue by the larval stage of the roundworm Trichinella spiralis. Severe muscle pain, fever, edema, localized hemorrhaging, and neurologic problems may result from this disease. Infection results from the consumption of undercooked meat-such as pork-containing encysted larvae. Trichinellosis has also occurred from eating undercooked bear meat. Larval Trichinella were found in 0% of bears sampled in Vermont, 1% in Labrador, 2% in Pennsylvania, 6% in New York, 13% in Idaho, and 22% in Alaska. Although it is commonly believed that bears acquired the parasite from eating garbage, a greater number of infected bears occur in remote areas than those with high human densities. Bears probably acquire the parasite by cannibalizing carcasses of other bears. It has been hypothesized that trichinellosis contributes to antagonistic or erratic behavior in bears. However, there is no conclusive evidence to support this hypothesis.
The protozoan parasite Toxoplasma gondii infects a wide ranges of birds and mammals. This parasite is transmissible to humans and may cause serious or fatal illness in persons with compromised immune systems. Congenital infections may produce birth defects. Wildlife can serve as the intermediate reservoir host for this parasite and cysts can survive for years in muscle tissue. Consumption of infected meat can produce infection in humans. In Pennsylvania, 80% of sampled bears showed antibodies for Toxoplasma. Persons consuming bear meat should cook the meat to an internal temperature of at least 66º C (150º F) for 3 minutes, which is sufficient to kill both Toxoplasma and Trichinella.
There may be individual and regional variation in the susceptibility of black bears to ectoparasites. Ticks were the most common ectoparasite in Idaho. Most bears were lightly infested (<25 ticks). However, in Montana, 100% of 117 bears examined in May and June were infested with ticks (Dermacentor andersoni). Subadult black bears were often in poorer condition than adults and probably more susceptible to parasites. Mange mites (Ursicoptes americanus) were found on 4% of bears sampled in Idaho. Since 1993, about 45 cases of nearly hairless bears (infested with the mite Demodex ursi) have been found on the western edge of Ocala National Forest in Florida.
References: Babbott and Day 1968, Briscoe et al. 1993, Butler and Khan 1992, Forrester et al. 1993, Goad 2003, Jonkel and Cowan 1971, King et al. 1960, Rausch et al. 1956, Rogers and Rogers 1976, Schad et al. 1986, Worley et al. 1983, Yunker et al. 1980
Post by: saylean on August 18, 2011, 06:35:44 PM
Congrats by the way!
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 18, 2011, 07:08:22 PM
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Post by: Kain on August 18, 2011, 09:46:21 PM
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1120001&page=1 (http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1120001&page=1)
Post by: bankwalker on August 18, 2011, 09:46:59 PM
The big question is where is the pic of the bear!?
Congrats by the way!
haha and the worm pic?
Post by: lokidog on August 18, 2011, 09:50:06 PM
Post by: one-eyed Ross on August 19, 2011, 08:48:32 AM
(There is an unusual process called "Visceral Larval Migrans" where a parasite, in the wrong host, will travel through the host organism looking for the "correct" to live...but in those cases, you'd know it because the animal would be VERY ill looking since the bowel and other internal organs would have holes in them from the worms travels).
Post by: MP123 on August 19, 2011, 09:52:05 AM
Why would you even think about eating parasite infested meat?
On a brighter note there's still time to pick up a second bear tag and try again! :)
And yeah how 'bout some pics!
Post by: h20hunter on August 19, 2011, 09:56:26 AM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 19, 2011, 10:05:35 AM
You have probably eaten several animals that had parasites and never knew about it.
Post by: MP123 on August 19, 2011, 11:23:28 AM
MP123,
You have probably eaten several animals that had parasites and never knew about it.
Yeah, you're right. But it's different if you know they're there and see them wiggling around. Not that I'd want to waste meat but some of those parasites can be pretty nasty.
Post by: 87Ford on August 19, 2011, 07:40:22 PM
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Yeah, you're right. But it's different if you know they're there and see them wiggling around.
Yep! Yuck!
Post by: Camp David on August 19, 2011, 07:59:38 PM
this is a bad thread to read while eating lunch...:yeah: :bdid: :yike: I'll keep the bathroom door open tonight :puke:
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on August 19, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
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Post by: Michelle_Nelson on August 20, 2011, 04:48:39 PM
No wonder there was worms :chuckle:
I think that thing was already dead when you shot it. The worms flinched when they heard and felt the impact of the bullet. Making him look alive. :chuckle:
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