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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Sabotloader on August 22, 2011, 11:36:51 AM
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OK... it is 11am here in Moscow and it is 84* already - I am really glad that I went early this morning. I was suppose to go yesterday morning but got delayed then it got hot - really hot... so I decided to wait for this morning.
The goal... last week I ran out and set up some birds to shoot with the Knight 52 cal DISC Extreme. Shooting the clay pigeons at a 100 is not an awful big challenge with a scope so... i really wanted to go out and repeat the shots with the MK-85.
It is equipped with a Williams FP Peep sight and a Fire Sight Hooded Williams Front Sight. I really like this combination as the the FP Sight is adjustable with a 1/4 min clicks much like a scope. I had previously sighted the rifle in with a 6" Point Blank Range - trying to get the greatest distance I could get with the one 6 O'clock hold. With the 6" PBR, I should never be lower than 3" or higher than 3" to 178 yards and dead on at 148 yards...
I do have to tell you that it did take a couple of shots on the first bird to get it. I put the bird right on the top of the front sight and missed with shot #1 - shot #2 I held just under the bird and touched it off (and with a MK-85 -> that is about what it is touch it off), anyway no more bird...
The original 6 birds that I put out went away in a hurry and there really were not any chips left that were big enough to take the second shot on so I set out another 6 and continued to shoot. It really was getting warm in the end, so at the end of the second round I packed it in and heade back to Moscow... with the AC in the truck working.
You can see in the pictures but i was shooting an all brass sabotless concical built by Lehigh Bullets. Lehigh Dave ventured into these a bit last year but then they kinda got set aside for awhile when he got some Knight contracts that need to be filled.
These 50 cal - 270 grain conicals are a bit tight for the MK bore but once through the crown load great. And as I found out last year they are very accurate. I was shooting 110 grains of T7-3f (thrown on site) and a CCI Mag cap. I am really looking for an opportunity to pull this down on an elk this season.
Morning Pics...
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I am looking to put peep sites on my disc extreme 50 cal. Can you point me in the right direction? Would like to know the make/model of the peeps you use and where I can possibly buy them. Thanks in advance.
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I am looking to put peep sites on my disc extreme 50 cal. Can you point me in the right direction? Would like to know the make/model of the peeps you use and where I can possibly buy them. Thanks in advance.
Peep sights... the Williams varieties - I really prefer the FP sight to the WG sight. The WG is what I call a 'slide and glide' adjustment sight and the FP is more like a scope adjustment - 1/4 min clicks for an 1" @ 100 yards.
There is an issue with the FP... The peep cross-bar can be in the way of lifting the bolt IF the elevation of the sight is adjusted all the way down to zero yards.... Normally this will bever happen but it has been discussed when people are installing the FP for the first time. Once you raise the bar to the point that the gun is sighted in - then the problem is not longer a problem. Your current front sight will detirmine the heigth of the lift of the elevation bar.
This is a picture of the FP installed on a MK-85
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If you look on the left side of the sight to the elevation graduations - you can see that I have lifted the elevation several marks to sight the rifle in, at this point the bolt, if it had a bolt, would no longer contact the cross-bar.
For the front sight i would suggest that you replace the Knight sight with a Williams ramp, fire sight, and I added the firsight hood to give the sight picture that you see a more scope like view.
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This sight can be installed on a Weaver scope base and looks like it might work very well...
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I think coyotewallce also has another variety mounted on his might - PM him and get the information from him...
Hope some of this helps...
Couple of old threads to look at... Most of this is repeitive - and most is a discussion of a Big Horn or MK but a lot of it applies directly to the DISC.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=72657.msg906658#msg906658
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=72769.msg906673#msg906673
mike