Post by: honda245 on August 28, 2011, 10:36:48 PM
Post by: Rick on August 29, 2011, 10:42:26 AM
I bought a capper that I took back. The RWS musket caps are big enough that I don't find myself fumbling with them during a reload. No capper needed IMO.
Post by: The100Road on August 29, 2011, 10:45:09 AM
Post by: TopOfTheFoodChain on August 29, 2011, 12:10:50 PM
1. The capper- please call Traditions and complain about the capper issue- I called already and they told me I was the only person to complain! BS!
Call 860-388-4656 The only way to use a capper is to modify the brass musket capper. Use a cutting wheel and trim the top folded over lips. Them put it in a vise lengthwise and squeeze it narrower. You will have to get the musket caps without wings but at least they're still musket caps.
2. The firing pin- it needs a stronger spring as it does not always pop the cap. Current spring might work if the head of the pin was round instead of the little straight bar on it.
3. The scope mount holes- they are not tapped all the way to the bottom of the hole! I tried to mount a Williams peep sight on it and the screws cannot tighten down enough because there are only three threads in the hole. Went back to Bobs to have them double check it. They confirmed the problem- they also checked the other new guns on the shelf- same problem. Need more than 3 threads in the hole.
By the way- shot it with the stock sights without adjusting them yesterday. Shot two groups at 50 yards. Moved to 200 yards and hit water filled milk jug first shot.
Post by: The100Road on August 29, 2011, 01:34:30 PM
Great shooting gun but has three problems.
1. The capper- please call Traditions and complain about the capper issue- I called already and they told me I was the only person to complain! BS!
Call 860-388-4656 The only way to use a capper is to modify the brass musket capper. Use a cutting wheel and trim the top folded over lips. Them put it in a vise lengthwise and squeeze it narrower. You will have to get the musket caps without wings but at least they're still musket caps.
2. The firing pin- it needs a stronger spring as it does not always pop the cap. Current spring might work if the head of the pin was round instead of the little straight bar on it.
3. The scope mount holes- they are not tapped all the way to the bottom of the hole! I tried to mount a Williams peep sight on it and the screws cannot tighten down enough because there are only three threads in the hole. Went back to Bobs to have them double check it. They confirmed the problem- they also checked the other new guns on the shelf- same problem. Need more than 3 threads in the hole.
By the way- shot it with the stock sights without adjusting them yesterday. Shot two groups at 50 yards. Moved to 200 yards and hit water filled milk jug first shot.
As far as the firing pin goes, I was told that the sping is strong enough but you have to keep it well lubed so that it doesnt get gumed up.
Post by: honda245 on August 29, 2011, 10:37:09 PM
Post by: WonkyWapiti on August 30, 2011, 04:36:51 PM
My buddy just bought one and went to the range on Friday afternoon to shoot it for the first time. Using CCI musket caps he could not get the thing to fire. The caps kept getting crushed and would not go off. Today he went down to Muzzleloader Supply and picked up some of the German musket caps and he was able to fire off four in a row.
I've got my Knight Bighorn set up for deer season with 250 grain Barnes TMZ sabots. My reason for wanting another gun is to have it set up for a bigger bullet for elk season. I may end up with another Knight Bighorn.
Post by: chuck270 on September 07, 2011, 08:35:57 AM
Post by: chuck270 on September 07, 2011, 09:37:54 AM
I have both. My previous muzzle loaders were liberated from my inventory earlier this summer by fine upstanding members of our community.
My previous guns: T/C 50 cal. Black Diamond and T/C 54. cal Hawkins
My thoughts now having shot both a couple of times:
Compairing these two to each other is like compairing a 3/4 ton 4X4 truck to an Itlian sports car...
Both have williams peep sights and are very accurate.
The Bighorn (3/4 ton 4x4) heavier and bulkier than the other, older time proven design, more robust in its construction, and shoots everytime. This gun will still be killing game when I am dead and gone.
compared to my T/C BD: I can shoot more rounds between cleanings before the action gums up, the T/C BD I could get maybe 10 shots, the Bighorn, I don't know haven't gotten there yet but 15+.
The NW mag. (sports car) lite, slim lines, sexy, feels good in your hands, handles well but is twitchy in its operation. This gun if used hard, regularly and not well maintianed it might hold up for 10 years (I could be wrong but thats my gut feeling). I had a couple of miss fires the first time out, cleanded it and lubed up everything and the next time out had fewer miss fires but several hang fires then realized I had a batch of bad caps (CCI 0301) switched to the Germans and problem ended for now (I never had one problem with the 10 year old CCI 0300 I previously used). I don't like the firing pin and I will modify that to my liking later. I believe that I can get this gun up to my level of reliability soon but it didn't arrive that way.
I like them both but for very different reasons.
In summery the Bighorn is ready to go hunting after two trips to the range. The NW mag.? No...
Post by: Navyrep1 on September 07, 2011, 01:09:32 PM
The way I figure it, the Hammer Mainspring (schematic part JJ or ref number M10018) just isn't strong enough on some rifles to fully overwhelm the antagonist spring on the way to the actual firing pin. If the mainspring had more tension it would probably work fine. I just shot Traditions a note today about the issue and offered up a suggestion. Here's the reply I just got from them:
"I will put two replacement springs in the mail for you, as I do think newer shipments have included springs which are a little bit stronger, and hopefully those will take care of the concerns you are describing. If, however, you continue to have problems or questions, please let me know and I'll be glad to assist you. Have a wonderful day.
Melanie Cipher
Customer Service
1375 Boston Post Rd.
Old Saybrook, CT 06475
Phone: 1-860-388-4656 ext. 204
melanie@traditionsfirearms.com"
When I get the new springs in a few days, I'll repost with results. For those with the misfire issue, I suggest a simple note to Traditions asking for the newer spring(s). Obviously, it shouldn't be this way but it is what it is. I believe that this rifle is overall outstanding in almost every way...light, fast and nimble handling, VERY accurate, easy to clean, great feel, great sights, easy to load, ported, and the Cerakote finish. Even with a necessary tweak in some cases, the positives far outweight the negatives in my opinion, it's a keeper.
Post by: TopOfTheFoodChain on September 07, 2011, 01:36:21 PM
Spoke woth Traditions today about the scope mounting holes not being tapped deep enough. They said they are designed to work with their scope mount and the screws supplied with it. As far as putting a peep there I have to find screws that are short enough so as to tighten down before hitting the end of the tapped threads.
About the pin not firing caps- They said some of the first batches of guns had springs that are too weak- just as Navyrep1 mentioned. They are sending me a whole new trigger assembly with the new springs in it!
I'll update again with results of new trigger assembly.
Post by: Navyrep1 on September 07, 2011, 02:10:50 PM
Post by: TopOfTheFoodChain on September 07, 2011, 02:17:08 PM
Damn....you get a whole new trigger assembly and all I get is a couple springs....: ) You must be smoother on the phone than I was in an email. Glad to here there's a little independent verification of what I thought the issue was. Thanks for the feedback and info.:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: Aside from operations- I'm part time salesman :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Navyrep1 on September 13, 2011, 08:52:17 PM
Post by: The100Road on September 13, 2011, 09:09:03 PM
Yeah....so I got the new springs today, not so good. In fact, they're visibly smaller and weaker than my originals. Put them in and it was worse than ever. So, I took them back out and remodified the trigger assembly as I had it before. Good to go. I'll be calling again tomorrow. Maybe this time I'll get a new complete trigger assembly. I'm still very satisfied with this weapon, still a keeper.
Wow. thats a shame that theyre not getting the hint. I am also very happy with mine (so far). I hate to hear all the negative comments.
Post by: TopOfTheFoodChain on September 14, 2011, 08:11:18 AM
Maybe this time I'll get a new complete trigger assembly. .PM sent
Post by: Navyrep1 on September 14, 2011, 09:12:19 AM
Post by: RClare1223 on September 19, 2011, 08:36:38 PM
Post by: TopOfTheFoodChain on September 19, 2011, 11:05:50 PM
RClare1223 -how did you get rid of the rib on the firing pin? I think that's the main problem as mine dents the caps way in but not a large enough contact area in my opinion. I'm very interested in your mod to the pin.
Post by: honda245 on September 26, 2011, 04:45:44 PM
Post by: RClare1223 on September 26, 2011, 07:24:41 PM
Post by: honda245 on September 29, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
Post by: beartracker69 on September 30, 2011, 07:52:26 AM
Post by: honda245 on October 08, 2011, 03:46:20 PM
Post by: honda245 on October 17, 2011, 08:58:10 AM
Post by: Navyrep1 on October 17, 2011, 12:08:28 PM
OK they sent me a new trigger assembly with stiffer springs I fired off 30 caps ln the garage not one Miss fire problem fixed the firing pin hits the caps way harder now the only problem is the nipped gets way clogged up but I think its because I was just firing caps without any powder does anybody know if that will do that
Yup...just caps will foul the nipple pretty quickly. When you shoot a real load there's plenty of back pressure to blow the crud and pretty well flatten the cap. Glad to hear they finally sent you the right stuff. I'm gonna wait until after the season to mess with it any more. It works fine in my modified form but a new trigger assembly that works as designed would be great. Did you have to tell them anything specific or ask for a specific partset?
Post by: honda245 on October 17, 2011, 03:27:02 PM
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Post by: chuck270 on September 21, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
Try putting a washer, like for a 1/4" bolt, between the nipple and the breach plug when you thread them together.
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