Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: purplecowboy on August 29, 2011, 06:53:07 AM
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I saw an add for a product called Tannerite exploding targets. I watched the video on it and according to them it can be shipped by UPS. The product is a binary exploding product. You have to mix two powders together and shake very well. It takes a high velocity rifle bullet to ignite it. In the video they used 1 1/2 pounds and it totally destroyed a 5 gallon bucket that was put on bricks above the bottle containing the Tannerite.
My question is has anyone purchased and used this. It looks like it could be fun. I don't think I could use it at the rifle range that I use.
The site that I saw this on is USAammo.com and is one of the items that they offer.
Thanks
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I've always heard it's not legal in Washington. I can't confirm or deny that but you might want to do some looking before you start blowing chit up.
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True WA seems to be a entity unto itself with regards to banning and controlling people other states still have freedoms we have long since lost...
and I think tannerite would be hella fun :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Yes, it is legal here in WA unless something has changed in the last couple of months. Fun stuff.
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Yes, it is legal here in WA unless something has changed in the last couple of months. Fun stuff.
Legal in WA, and the kits are sold in most gun/sporting goods stores. You only put a small amount in the targets, but be careful where you shoot them, especially here in Eastern WA. They can start a fire.
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Yes, it is legal here in WA unless something has changed in the last couple of months. Fun stuff.
I'm sure nothing has changed...I just heard the talk that it was not legal. I've never looked into it because I've never had any interest in it. It does look fun though.
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Yes, it is legal here in WA unless something has changed in the last couple of months. Fun stuff.
I'm sure nothing has changed...I just heard the talk that it was not legal. I've never looked into it because I've never had any interest in it. It does look fun though.
I've never used them either, but a friend got some to take along pistol shooting and stuck them to a paper target, and every time he hit one I would run up to stomp out the smoldering paper.
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I know when you use 5-10 lbs, things can get loud and destructive.
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I know when you use 5-10 lbs, things can get loud and destructive.
Well, now your'e getting into the "fun" part! :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I don't know specifically about tannerite. A quick look online at the RCW's brought this up. Is it relevant to tannerite or is tannerite exempt?
RCW 70.74.022 (in short):
"License required to manufacture, purchase, sell, use, possess, transport, or store explosives -- Penalty -- Surrender of explosives by unlicensed person -- Other relief.
(1) It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, purchase, sell, offer for sale, use, possess, transport, or store any explosive, improvised device, or components that are intended to be assembled into an explosive or improvised device without having a validly issued license from the department of labor and industries, which license has not been revoked or suspended. Violation of this section is a class C felony."
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If you want to get your fix on exploding targets, then plan to go to Boomershoot. They will be taking reservations for the 2012 event shortly.
I went last year and it was a LOT of fun!
http://www.boomershoot.org/ (http://www.boomershoot.org/)
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here you go everything you need to know about tannerite :chuckle: :chuckle:
Tannerite+Heather=BOOM! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2AubRe6HoY#ws)
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OH MAN!!! I got to get me some of that!!!
The tannerite looks kinda fun too. :chuckle:
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it is fun stuff cabelas sells it right off the shelf, last yrs game regs said exploding targets are not legal
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This years regs spell it out too MasonctyHitman. Here's a quote from the regulations. Kinda backs up the RCW I found previously.
The firearms and target practicing rule prohibits
the use of glass, signs, appliances, mattresses,
televisions, furniture, and exploding items as
targets.
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This years regs spell it out too MasonctyHitman. Here's a quote from the regulations. Kinda backs up the RCW I found previously.
The firearms and target practicing rule prohibits
the use of glass, signs, appliances, mattresses,
televisions, furniture, and exploding items as
targets.
That rule is for WDFW lands. I don't know about the legality elsewhere. I would assume it is at least legal on a person's own private property. But public lands I doubt it. Especially with the likelyhood of the exploding targets starting a fire.
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It must be mixed on site, illegal to transport in a pre mixed state, and must be used on private land. Therefore if said exploding targets already contain a mixed explosive yes they would be illegal.
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I have used the stuff, and technically it is a form of black powder not an explosive.. i think you are allowed 50lbs of black powder per federal law... :twocents:
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I have used the stuff, and technically it is a form of black powder not an explosive.. i think you are allowed 50lbs of black powder per federal law... :twocents:
I'm a bit confused on this one. I see all these posts regarding the prohibition of tannerite here in WA. State, yet I have been buying exploding targets containing tannerite from Big Five for years. It must have something to do with quantity. I just bought some more the other day, and they come in the mixed state. You would think if it wasn't legal, they couldn't sell it here.
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Tannerite IS legal to buy, posses, and use in Washington. Period.
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You cant use it on state land from what I see in the rcw, and just cause its sold here doesnt me you can use it every where. They sell expanding broad heads here but they arnt legal to use :twocents:
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I never said you could use it on state lands. I'd suggest you research where it is legal to use, just as with an expandable broadhead. My simple point is that it is legal to buy, posses, and use in this state.
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Here ya go. :chuckle:
And as always.....Have nice day.
Explosion with ACR Assault Rifle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_1PfqGVSg0#ws)
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I have used the stuff, and technically it is a form of black powder not an explosive.. i think you are allowed 50lbs of black powder per federal law... :twocents:
I'm a bit confused on this one. I see all these posts regarding the prohibition of tannerite here in WA. State, yet I have been buying exploding targets containing tannerite from Big Five for years. It must have something to do with quantity. I just bought some more the other day, and they come in the mixed state. You would think if it wasn't legal, they couldn't sell it here.
you can also buy the banned mole traps in most feed/farm/garden stores.....just because washington bans the use of something doesnt mean it bans stores from selling it especially if its legal everywhere else :dunno: this is America still even if it seems like its China :)
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I never said you could use it on state lands. I'd suggest you research where it is legal to use, just as with an expandable broadhead. My simple point is that it is legal to buy, posses, and use in this state.
expandable broadheads are only illegal for big game. They are legal for small game.
Oops. Wanted to quote demontang.
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Realy? Ive never seen where they state that you can use them.
I know as for explosives Id be really carefull right now, the batfe has laws on storage and etc.
Federal explosives law "The law affects all persons who import, manufacture, deal in, purchase, use, store, or possess explosive materials. It also affects those who ship, transport or cause to be transported, or receive explosive materials. Also, see 18 U.S.C. 845 and 27 CFR 555.141 for exemptions."
“explosives” means any chemical compound mixture, or device, the primary or common purpose of which is to function by explosion; the term includes, but is not limited to, dynamite and other high explosives, black powder, pellet powder, initiating explosives, detonators, safety fuses, squibs, detonating cord, igniter cord, and igniters.
basicly as long as its not mixed your ok. If you mix it you need a atf licenses to have it.
Are binary explosives subject to regulation under Federal explosives laws "Until the compounds are mixed, they are not classified as explosives and, therefore, are not subject to control. However, once mixed, binary explosives are “explosive materials” and are subject to all applicable Federal requirements. A person who mixes or combines compounds of binary explosives for the purpose of sale or distribution or for the person’s own business use is a “manufacturer” of explosive materials and must be licensed as a manufacturer under the law. [18 U.S.C. 841(h); 27 CFR 555.11: definition of “manufacturer”]"
It also states once you have mixed the stuff you got to follow regs on how far one part of it is from the mixed explosive.
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There doesn't have to be a law saying that you can do something to make it legal. With broadheads the regs say expandables illegal for big game. Much same as no law saying that you can shoot tannerite. Only laws saying where you cannot shoot tannerite. You can buy it and there is no law saying yyou can't use it on your own property (that I am aware of). So therefore shoot away...
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On tannerite.com is says that they have proven in court this stuff to be legal in all 50 states.
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I have used the stuff, and technically it is a form of black powder not an explosive.. i think you are allowed 50lbs of black powder per federal law... :twocents:
I'm a bit confused on this one. I see all these posts regarding the prohibition of tannerite here in WA. State, yet I have been buying exploding targets containing tannerite from Big Five for years. It must have something to do with quantity. I just bought some more the other day, and they come in the mixed state. You would think if it wasn't legal, they couldn't sell it here.
you can also buy the banned mole traps in most feed/farm/garden stores.....just because washington bans the use of something doesnt mean it bans stores from selling it especially if its legal everywhere else :dunno: this is America still even if it seems like its China :)
Ok, lets at least get one thing straightened out here. Yes I know just because you can buy something in a store doesn't mean it is legal...like broadheads and yes mole traps. Lets get real....we aren't talking about that. If an explosive compound is illegal in a state, it is heavily regulated and you will NOT be able to buy it unless you are licensed to use it. So that being said, yes it is legal, yes you can use it and buy it in this state and no you can not use it in some areas....ie: within city limits, national parks, game preserves, protected watersheds and some state lands. As usual it is always best to check with the local authorities.
There ya have it :tup:
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The thing is in binary form it's not regulated tell it's mixed then you can run in to problems. Just like furtalizer and diesel neither is regulated tell you mix the two and get an explosive.
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some guys had that stuff at the greenwater shooting pit... they caught a pallet on fire they were pinning targets to... kind of a fire hazard in my opinion. just my opinion but i'd rather not risk setting the forest ablaze :dunno:
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When Tannerite explodes it turns into nitrogen gas and water vapor. Sounds like they had some homemade "Tannerite."