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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Gobble on June 24, 2008, 10:16:10 AM
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I bought my first ones last year and won't be caught without them. Me and my son both took our deer last year from them. I can't beleive what a difference they make. I also recommend getting the larger dia. for better stability. Mine fold down nicely, I think mine are stoney point or something like that.
Tell me if you use them.
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RELIGIOUSLY.
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Always have them with me. I love those things!!
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Purchased one last year and would not hunt with out it, I have bad knees and just being able to have it like a walking stick was a bonus.
Dave
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ive been looking at getting some this year. what brand should i get and all that? the ones ive seen on cables' website all have terrible reviews and i wanna get something ill actually enjoy using and carrying around. haha.
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The stoney point ones are great. I went with the bigger dia tube and they work excellent little to no movement Just my :twocents:
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I would look forward to having some info on them as well, am looking more at the taller model to use both as a walking staff and shooting stick.
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I use the predator snyper styx for coyote hunting. They are for a sitting position. Never used them for anything else.
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They are great if you do not forget to put them back on your belt when you are using them as a rest while sitting watching the valley, then realize they are not there when you get back to camp and you do not mark the spot on your GPS where you were sitting and cannot seem to find the exact spot again......... They are either still there, or someone has a brand new set only used once and left out in the middle of nowhere. :bash:
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My dad killed his biggest buck to date useing a stoney point mono pod last fall my eldest son has also used both a mono pod and a set of homemade sticks to kill a number of deer. JB
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They are great if you do not forget to put them back on your belt when you are using them as a rest while sitting watching the valley, then realize they are not there when you get back to camp and you do not mark the spot on your GPS where you were sitting and cannot seem to find the exact spot again......... They are either still there, or someone has a brand new set only used once and left out in the middle of nowhere. :bash:
Did that last year after we drug my 5 x 5 down the hill except it was my new baseball hat with the built in Led lights in the bill. I knew right where it was but said no way to climbing the 1500' back up to get it. We'll see if its still there next year :chuckle:
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I love mine. I use the Stony point bi-pod,. I liked them so much I bought three sets. I keep one in each others pack (tall side pouch) so either of us can quickly grab out them out. My youngest son sometomes carries them for me (he pretends they are his rifle). My boys practice shooting of them at the range, it has made an incredible difference in their accuracy. I especially like them when setup on a draw from above. It is nice to have a comfortable stable shooting platform.
linky to what we use.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=netcon&id=0005829221333a&navCount=1&podId=0005829&parentId=cat20774&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20774&hasJS=true
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They are great if you do not forget to put them back on your belt when you are using them as a rest while sitting watching the valley, then realize they are not there when you get back to camp and you do not mark the spot on your GPS where you were sitting and cannot seem to find the exact spot again......... They are either still there, or someone has a brand new set only used once and left out in the middle of nowhere. :bash:
My buddy loses his every year. :chuckle: I think he's on his 5th pair. Mine are also the stoney point shooting sticks and I think they're great. My next pair will be the larger diameter sticks! One thing I've noticed is that if you store them assembled as opposed to folded up, the elastic strings lasts longer. Just FYI!
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Mine will last, since they are set-up and still stuck in the ground......... :'(
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They are great if you do not forget to put them back on your belt when you are using them as a rest while sitting watching the valley, then realize they are not there when you get back to camp and you do not mark the spot on your GPS where you were sitting and cannot seem to find the exact spot again......... They are either still there, or someone has a brand new set only used once and left out in the middle of nowhere. :bash:
My buddy loses his every year. :chuckle: I think he's on his 5th pair. Mine are also the stoney point shooting sticks and I think they're great. My next pair will be the larger diameter sticks! One thing I've noticed is that if you store them assembled as opposed to folded up, the elastic strings lasts longer. Just FYI!
The bigger dia sticks make a huge difference. I bought the smaller ones and took them back because they were very flimsy and unstable. plus the larger dia ones were only 5 dollars or so more.
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Yeah, as soon as the larger diameter ones came out I thought they would be the ticket!! I just looked on Cabelas and can't find them. Where'd you get yours?
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I got mine at Sportsmans Warehouse
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Make sure you are not loading up the sticks when you are shooting or you will affect your long range accuracy. If you are putting weight on them, you are putting an upward force on your barrel or stock that was not there when sighting in off a bench. This is going to change your barrels vibration and will alter at what point during the vibration the bullet is released. Use them as a rest w/o putting on weight and you wil be good. Same goes for bipods.
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I use a bipod.
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I shoot sharp sticks, does that count?
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I have used 3 bamboo poles with nails driven in the bottom and with leather wrapped around them. They work fantastic if you're walking around not too far and casually shooting things. It may be a good idea to put a cloth where you rest your rifle if you are concerned about damaging the wood stock in any way. It's not something I use regularly. Most of the time I would rather rest off something else because I don't like carrying things around like that.
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serious answer now....what he said about carrying things around.
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I use the predator snyper styx for coyote hunting. They are for a sitting position. Never used them for anything else.
Same here.
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Stoney Points for me as well
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the jury is out for me. i had been using a harris bipod until last year when i got the large diameter stony point sticks that are tall enough for me (6'4") to shoot off of standing up. i killed my buck last year at 295 yards off the sticks from a sitting position and they worked real well. i shot off of them at the range too.
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I have 3 sets of shooting sticks but never have killed anything using them. I was hunting with my cousin one time after having used my tag already, and I carried the shooting sticks for him. He ended up killing a real nice whitetail at about 150 yards that he most likely never would have gotten otherwise. The grass was too tall to allow for shooting prone or sitting so the only option would have been offhand. He may have made the shot without the sticks but then again he may not have. And it was right at dark in the evening. No time to be tracking a wounded buck. As it was he made a perfect shot and the buck went nowhere but down. The only bad thing about it was that it was a good mile out of there and we drug it the entire way. I HATE dragging deer but my cousin doesn't seem to mind...must have a better back than I do. :bash:
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i had a pair of steady sticks. i used them one time , thay were thin and flimsy, and when thay were spread out thay were about 3 feet on each side of me. thay sucked. never did shoot off of them, i bet thay would have broke, lol. plus putting them togeather was noisy. im gona use the primos trigger stick this year, it has a head on it that is adjustable for tilt, and it swivles. its really thick as well. also it automaticly deploys with a pull of the little trigger on it.
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I keep a taller Harris bipod on my rifle most all of the season. I have two store bought stix, they are a little flim flam is you ask me, too bouncy..... I made three sets at home. My first one was from two alum. arrow shafts I found, I beefed them up at the pivot with an internal dowel, a bit of camo tape and some black fuel line at the top to reduce noise and scratching. Most all of the sticks seem to short for me. I am not that damn tall, I think I must have about three extra sets of ribs, cause I am all torso... The last set I made are better. (Bigger is better, go ask your wife!) Anyway, last set is made from two garden stake/poles. Plastic over thin steel tube, fiberglass point, did the dowel at pivot trick here too...camo tape....a bit ugly looking, but way taller, way stronger. For turkey I have a monoleg thingy....shotgun can swing in any direction, but did not deploy it on my turkey last year...too excited...forgot about it....
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I've got a monopod that breaks down like a tent pole, so you can halve the height and use it like a bipod if needed. Breaks down to fit into a pack. Have only used it one rifle season, but with great success...had tall grass and no trees, so no way for anything but a standing shot. The buck was at 200 yards, moving to the ridgeline and dense timber about 20 yards away. If I didn't have the stick I wouldn't have taken the standing shot. But it gave me the steadiness to drill him (pic below). Will always carry it (or something similar) going forward for those situations.
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I never hunt without shooting sticks. I learned how well shooting sticks work while hunting in Africa. Sure beats looking for a log to lay the gun on or using a tree limb for a rest.
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I use a bipod that swivels. I love using it as i know i can make a clean confident shot. The swivels work great on a hillside.
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I made a set of shooting sticks out of a couple of old carbon arrows and rubber hose, they work great. But I also like my bi-pod (harris). Just my 2 cents/
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I just use a wading staff that I got at Walmart for $3 (regular $25) on clearance it is aluminum and fatter then my thumb, also has a compass on top and a lanyard so I don't lose it. Came with a nifty pouch it fits neatly in after I break it down to about a foot long. Really compact and lightweight, very nice for a walking stick as well, with a load on I need all the support I can get !!
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No shooting sticks for me...i have a bipod on my tikka..but i mainly use that so I dont set the gun down in the dirt.
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I carry them and I have shot several of my bucks with them! I just don't like a bipod on my gun.
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serious answer now....what he said about carrying things around.
That's always been my concern w/ sticks and why I went w/ a bipod. Figure if I could sit or shoot prone the bipod works great. If I'm standing the shot was gonna be close enough to shoot free hand. I wouldn't be opposed to using sticks but I can't imagine they'd be nearly as solid as my Harris when shoting prone or sitting but they may be more versitile in respect to offering more shooting positions overall. :dunno:
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serious answer now....what he said about carrying things around.
That's always been my concern w/ sticks and why I went w/ a bipod. Figure if I could sit or shoot prone the bipod works great. If I'm standing the shot was gonna be close enough to shoot free hand. I wouldn't be opposed to using sticks but I can't imagine they'd be nearly as solid as my Harris when shoting prone or sitting but they may be more versitile in respect to offering more shooting positions overall. :dunno:
The advantage I see with the shooting sticks is you are not limited to the heigth of crap your hunting in. With the bipod you are limited to the heigth of the brush or sage and you can't shoot down a steep hill very good because of the angle esp if you are on a hill trying to shoot across to another hill or valley. I looked real hard at the harris but decided against it for a couple of reasons, Weight being one and snagging it on crap if you are walking through thick crap., plus if you are free handing it you have the bipod in the way and the excess weight on the end of the gun which makes it harder to hold steady. Just my :twocents:
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I can't disagree with you on the downside points of having a bipod. I've experienced everything you've outline....
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If I'm standing the shot was gonna be close enough to shoot free hand.
I suppose that depends on what you are shooting and how far away it is. That concept does not always apply but might apply for you. I like to use them to hit ground squirrels or any small varmint at 100 + yards while walking around the prairie. That is usually a mighty small target to be shooting off hand and sometimes there are more than one. The shooting sticks come into their own when the targets start running. It's easier to get the body around to track them and then re-adjust in order to make that killing shot for the second the target might sit still. The bipod is a good concept but it has it's own set of limitations. Seeing over the grass is one obvious one in addition to mobility in the sense I just described.
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0339.JPG)
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I like to use them to hit ground squirrels or any small varmint at 100 + yards while walking around the prairie.
No, I agree, wouldn't apply to ground squirrels. My point was more a matter of big game no more than 100 (preferrably less than 75) yards away for making a good freehand shot.
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I'm with everyone who don't like to carry them over long hunts. Short hunts or varmint hunting they are OK though.
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Used a mono-pod for the first time this year on my Spring bear hunt. Worked great as a walking stick and adjused well for use under the tree I was sitting under. Got rid off the heavy bi-pod that was mounted on my gun and the walking stick really helped in the steep nasty stuff. I throw my gun over my back or on my pack for taking extended hikes so it doesn't really seem like I'm carrying something extra. I'm a believer.
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I use The Pole Cat, have 2 sizes, one you can sit down or neel and shoot, the other is the stand up set, used those down in New Mexico for Oryx. Won't leave home without em' !!!
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I now carry sticks after learning the hard way. I was in Idaho and had a bull at 300 yards with bushes as tall as me all around. Had nothing to rest against so good not get a good shot. Sticks would of helped greatly.
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i use a walking stick, but have never shot game off of it. seems like when its crunch time and its time to put an end to things, i either have plenty of time to get a more proper more solid rest, or there is not enough time to set the height properly or get set or whatever. ive had several hunters who carried them, and thats just what they did, carry them. they took the game without them. ended up not carrying them later in the hunt.
its kinda sad. America used to be a nation of Riflemen. we didnt need all sorts of aids and crutches to get good solid field shooting. i practice as much as i can offhand or off of a tree.i do think sticks are great for stationary hunting.
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Never used one on big game :dunno: But I did purches a harris bi-pod S series for the AR. Seems to work well for paper haven't tried it on life targets yet.
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Started to use some this year and they make a big difference when shooting at coyote that are over 200yd's, I will be taking them deer hunting.
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I will never hunt anything again without a set of them!
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I have yet to actually shoot something using them. But I carry them around.
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My youngest son practices with them every day in the back yard.
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I used to use the Stoney Point bipod and liked it. Now I have the SnipePod. It's a collapsable system that clips onto your gun at the sling swivel.
http://www.snipepod.com/
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used them for years in long range muzzleloader competition. I use then once in a while hunting coyotes, Have not used them on big game yet but may start soon.getting older ya know.
Slenk
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Since all our hunts are backpack hunts we use our hiking sticks as shooting sticks. Works great. Just another idea.