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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: surfj9009 on September 11, 2011, 12:10:13 AM
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Just because I am curious, what would you carry from the items listed if you were in an area that was known to have big cats and you were hunting solo. Assume you would also have a 12 ga., 338-06 or 30-06 with you.
I have several of these guns, and a few are ones I am considering, but I am curious to what you guys think would be best and would carry if you were hunting alone. I am new to this hunting stuff and I don't want to get eaten. :tup:
I am kind of leaning towards either the Glock, XD or one of the wheel guns, but I can't really decide. I love my 1911, but I am not sure I would want to carry it as a field gun.
What say you? :dunno:
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what ever is lightest and easyest to carry..
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Being that they are fast, but also requre less of a punch to take down, I would go with a clip fed handgun that can carry more rounds :twocents:
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Mods, sorry but could you please move this to the polls forum? My bad....
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Yeah, I'm kinda leaning towards my XD-40. It's light and I got a good Serpa retention holster. Shot over 4000 rounds through it and never had a FTF or FTE or anything. Just not sure if it's enough gun.....
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for me it is my full size 1911, out of my hand guns it is the one i shoot best.
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I actually carry a 357 mag.
Bob
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I carry a 44 mag. not only for the cats but other unknowns. And I can shoot that out to 100 yards fairly accurately.
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.41 mag all the way !
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I like the glock for the brainless pull and shoot factor only. Under stress not having to worry about a safety or any other procedure is priceless. Not a glock fan but pull and shoot is winning me over on this one.
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I went with the .44 mag. Simply because, I want to know my gun will go bang every time. Revolvers do not jam. Magazines are not lost, or dropped..
Plus, 240 gr. hollow points will take down anything in the woods, from cougar to meth maggots to bears..
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None of the above
if I get another revolver in the future it will be another 357
I have shot and dislike 45's so any pistol will likely be a 9mm
and right now all I have is a 22 and it is what usually goes along
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I agree on the revolver. Not that my hearing would benefit from it, but if a cat had me by the shoulder, neck or back, I feel that I could fire a revolver over my shoulder a bit easier than an auto...
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Whatever is light, quick, completely timed to muscle memory. Cats, bears, wolves.....they make their living by being quiet and quick. It does not take a howitzer to dump them....it takes well placed shots. I feel safe with any of my personal side arms, but I shoot a bunch.
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None of the above
if I get another revolver in the future it will be another 357
I have shot and dislike 45's so any pistol will likely be a 9mm
and right now all I have is a 22 and it is what usually goes along
A .357 mag will work just fine. It is still a revolver.
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Generally I'd say my longbow. I'd be faster with it than trying to dig out any gun. BUT....... if I had to pick a pistol, I do like the .41 for essentially what was said about the .44 except I have more control over it and it will do the same job. .357 would work too. I was on edge A LOT this year while bowhunting as there was a grizz in the area, and I wasn't packing. Again, I'd want something I had control over. The .41 would make me feel secure.
As a sidenote, while on the mountain I was thinking about this with rifles. If a grizz charged which gun I'd rather have. I was thinking 30-30 or 32 Spl for the mere fact I could put 5 in the boiler room before he hit me versus a bolt action remington with a scope, maybe one if lucky........Maybe that should be a topic in itself. Just thoughts....
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No doubt my 44 mag one shoot one kill.Impact will stop him in his tracks.If he's treed a 22lr works great.
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what ever is lightest and easyest to carry..
:yeah:
That would be the xd...
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I went with the XD40 if for no other reason than I own and carry this pistol every day. Mine has been 100% reliable after about 3000 rounds of range ammo, a good portion of which was Russian steel-cased crap. I am very familar with it and can use it quickly with combat accurate results.
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I chose the XD .40 cal because that is what I carry, any of those will work just fine for cats. I prefer semis myself, but I would recommend whichever you shoot the best "instinctively".
Cats are pretty sneaky when on the attack, shooting a gun you are not confident with in my mind reduces your survivability.
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I am the odd ball out. Tarus Judge for me. Because of the utility of it. Several loads I can use. Kill grouse. If a cat is on you and you can get off a shot I got to think they will let go no matter what you use at that range. Any thing on your list is going to hurt like a bugger at point blank range.
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I voted for the .44 mag. but only because the . 45 colt wasnt an option. and I would pick the .45 for the same reason Bone picked the .41 more control. if I had to carry a .44 mag I would load it down...not quite to special level but down.
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all that said my .45 usually gets left at home and I opt for the lowly .22
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all that said my .45 usually gets left at home and I opt for the lowly .22
I like my 22 I am proficient with it and it seems as if the 22... is deemed an air soft gun it is always left out of choices...I was taught a 22 can kill but on gun forums it sure doesn't seem like it
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all that said my .45 usually gets left at home and I opt for the lowly .22
I like my 22 I am proficient with it and it seems as if the 22... is deemed an air soft gun it is always left out of choices...I was taught a 22 can kill but on gun forums it sure doesn't seem like it
LOL. Just tell 'em your .22 is milspec, black and od green with speed load mags. :chuckle: That'll keep 'em off your case Run.
Not saying one of the choices is any better than the other, they would all work in the right hands. I just have a fascination with the 1911. Not sure if it's the history of the weapon or the feel of it but it has been my favorite sidearm for a long time now.
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i like to carry my 45 colt blackhawk with +p when hunting, very accurate out to 80 yards. of these choices i would choose the 1911. if it's not hunting season 1911 for sure.
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all that said my .45 usually gets left at home and I opt for the lowly .22
I like my 22 I am proficient with it and it seems as if the 22... is deemed an air soft gun it is always left out of choices...I was taught a 22 can kill but on gun forums it sure doesn't seem like it
LOL. Just tell 'em your .22 is milspec, black and od green with speed load mags. :chuckle: That'll keep 'em off your case Run.
Not saying one of the choices is any better than the other, they would all work in the right hands. I just have a fascination with the 1911. Not sure if it's the history of the weapon or the feel of it but it has been my favorite sidearm for a long time now.
doggone it mine looks more like this
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Anything will deter a cat - they are ambushers, thin skinned, fairly easy to kill and hate fights. Whatever you can make go bang the quickest, preferably hitting the kitty too.
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I chose the 1911 not because of it's power but because i can keep all of my shot's on a paper plate at 50 yards with my kimber eclipse full size with Hornady 230grn +p . I would rather have something i am accurate with than something that has more recoil than i'm use to :twocents:
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I think it depends on your primary weapon (bow or a modern rifle) and whether black/grizzly bears are in the mix. I don't know much about 'charge stopping' a cat but I'm guessing a .40 would do the trick?
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Of the choices in this poll it would probably be the .44 mag,and it sure as hell wouldn't have hollowpoints in it.
My choice would either be a .41 mag or a .357 in a Ruger Blackhawk. Loaded with hardcast bullets.
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doggone it mine looks more like this
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-snc6%2F231017_211471182206671_100000313713426_668728_5399146_n.jpg&hash=dd7717d25d0be4a7ac38264ddfc797cee172e11d)nice gun run!
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First of all, are any of you really worried about being attacked by a cougar? I think the chances are awful slim. But in the spirit of the poll, I choose the 1911. It is the best combat handgun ever built, so there is no reason to think that it wouldn't be the best for combat with a kitty. Besides, if you need more than 8 rounds to kill something other than a grizz, you need to visit the range a lot more often.
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I think if a cougar attack happens, there is about an 90% chance you won't see it coming. But that is neither here nor there.
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I voted .44 mag only because you didn't have .357 as an option. I always carry my .357 mag w/ 6" barrel loaded w/ 200gr hard casts. It should do the trick. :)
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I think if a cougar attack happens, there is about an 90% chance you won't see it coming. But that is neither here nor there.
Word.
I don't carry a handgun because I'm not worried about a cougar or bear attack. If by chance I did get attacked by either of them,I'd much rather have a rifle in my hands. If my 30-06 won't get it done,neither will a handgun.
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I carry a 9mm Beretta, in addition to my rifle. To be honest though, I am more worried about being attacked by other people than by cougars. My understanding is that if a cougar was stalking me I likely wouldn't see/hear it until it was too late. :dunno:
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I carry a 9mm Beretta, in addition to my rifle. To be honest though, I am more worried about being attacked by other people than by cougars.
:yeah:
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I carry a Glock 21.
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I didn't have a vote for "none of the above". I only carry a handgun when archery hunting and as the original question stated I'd have a rifle or a shotgun on me, I don't really see the need for a handgun.
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I pack mine while archery hunting and hiking.
.44mag
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Sorry, none of the above. I like my XD in .45, 13+1, 230gr ball ammo. Do I think that I will ever get attacked, not really. Have an issue with a drugged out whacko..maybe. I just like having it really.
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I pack mine while archery hunting and hiking.
.44mag
Holy crow, looks like your gun scared the poop out of a bear! :chuckle:
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had to go with the 1911 but i really like my glock 23 plus i like the 13 +1 capacity. when in doubt shot it. i really like having the extra rounds. Ive also never seen anything get up after shot with it
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a hound dog! :chuckle:
i keep a .357 on my side a lot of the time. more for bears than cats.
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I carry my XD .40 for hunting and personal defense. I love the gun and its just as reliable as my wifes glock 19. IMO
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You don't need huge stopping power for a cat. You are fine with a 357 or 40. If you are in bear country even a good load in a 357 will do the job, trust me I know :chuckle: Cats are not hard to kill, they have a very low pain tolerance and a lot of my buds that ran cats back when it was legal shot them with 22 mags.
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S&W 500 :chuckle:
All I ever carry is my XD in .40S&W (only pistol I have). I carry it even when I am rifle hunting. If a cougar ever did attack me, I am guessing it will come from behind, and I am pretty sure it would be easier to get a shot off with a pistol than my .300RUM with a 26" barrell :)
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I seldom pack when carrying my bow, but when I do. its a .44.........
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I seldom pack when carrying my bow, but when I do. its a .44.........
LOL that so reminds me of the beer commercial...."I don't always drink beer, but when I do..." :P
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I'll save the weight and carry the knowledge that the odds of getting hit by a cougar that I could have better stopped with a holstered pistol vs. a long gun already in my hands are far less than getting hit by lightning just after walking alive out of plane that crashed onto a tiny speck of an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
But I'd bet I'm not as quick on the draw as some of you gunslingers.
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Sorry, none of the above. I like my XD in .45, 13+1, 230gr ball ammo. Do I think that I will ever get attacked, not really. Have an issue with a drugged out whacko..maybe. I just like having it really.
:yeah: XD .45 HP
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Glock 20 10mm. 15+1 should get it done! The +1 would be for me after the other 15 are gone tho! :chuckle:
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I'll save the weight and carry the knowledge that the odds of getting hit by a cougar that I could have better stopped with a holstered pistol vs. a long gun already in my hands are far less than getting hit by lightning just after walking alive out of plane that crashed onto a tiny speck of an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
But I'd bet I'm not as quick on the draw as some of you gunslingers.
:chuckle: That's why I said a hound dog.
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1911, It's what I carry and I have other options, including .357 taurus, FNH .40, Para ord 9mm.
It works, Its not the lightest but it points a shoots where you want it to. The target in my avatar was the first shot I ever took with it. Love at first shot you might say. No need to carry anything else when you need knockdown power and realiability. If I was in Grizzly country (seen one here in Snohomish county but not likely to encounter) or hunting bigger game I might think about a wheel gun in a major caliber but since I'm in western WA it's enough gun for what we are likely to encounter here.
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My xd-40 with hollows is what I carry wherever including cat country. :D
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I don't see my choice!
I have been in the woods on the weekends since mid August reconing for my Buddies Multi season elk tag. Which means I may get back to my rig around midnite or back in the brush usually around 3 or 4 am. This has all been done in areas that I know have cougars and bears as well as a comfirmed quantity of wolves.
So far the largest defensive tool I have carried has been a 5 foot ultra light spinning rod ( My choice) when I walked into a couple of beaver ponds.
Not once yet have I felt I have been in great peril from any attacks.
Guess maybe I'm not a NBFC! :chuckle:
The only time I was a bit nervous was when he and I were in a Cedar bottom in the dark timber and we ran into a young Moose and was wondering where Momma was, hoping we didn't get between her and the little one. Then all I had was him to use as a shield. Thats only if he was between her and I.
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I don't see my choice!
I have been in the woods on the weekends since mid August reconing for my Buddies Multi season elk tag. Which means I may get back to my rig around midnite or back in the brush usually around 3 or 4 am. This has all been done in areas that I know have cougars and bears as well as a comfirmed quantity of wolves.
So far the largest defensive tool I have carried has been a 5 foot ultra light spinning rod ( My choice) when I walked into a couple of beaver ponds.
Not once yet have I felt I have been in great peril from any attacks.
Guess maybe I'm not a NBFC! :chuckle:
The only time I was a bit nervous was when he and I were in a Cedar bottom in the dark timber and we ran into a young Moose and was wondering where Momma was, hoping we didn't get between her and the little one. Then all I had was him to use as a shield. Thats only if he was between her and I.
Real men don't need a weapon.......................... :fishin:
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So here is the philosophy I would follow. If it is for self defense, carry in a holster, the biggest caliber you can accurately shoot. Cats don't need much so the mag revolvers seem a bit short on firepower. If you have actually trained on fast moving targets, i.e. simulated dogs charging at you, they are very difficult to hit and 6 rounds will go too fast and you will likely hear "click click click" as the animal closes on you. As for the long gun in your hands, try to shoot it with the long gun first of course, but then a transition to your pistol will be much faster than trying to work a bolt gun under stress unless you have actually trained it under time constraints for simulated stress. Bravado will not get your through. Training and skill and a bit of luck will.
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ummm several burlap bags, baseball size of Catnip??
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I don't see my choice!
I have been in the woods on the weekends since mid August reconing for my Buddies Multi season elk tag. Which means I may get back to my rig around midnite or back in the brush usually around 3 or 4 am. This has all been done in areas that I know have cougars and bears as well as a comfirmed quantity of wolves.
So far the largest defensive tool I have carried has been a 5 foot ultra light spinning rod ( My choice) when I walked into a couple of beaver ponds.
Not once yet have I felt I have been in great peril from any attacks.
Guess maybe I'm not a NBFC! :chuckle:
The only time I was a bit nervous was when he and I were in a Cedar bottom in the dark timber and we ran into a young Moose and was wondering where Momma was, hoping we didn't get between her and the little one. Then all I had was him to use as a shield. Thats only if he was between her and I.
Real men don't need a weapon.......................... :fishin:
I hope you guys never stumble across a marijuana grow, or a mobile meth lab then, cause from what I understand those folks usually are armed. :twocents:
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I don't see my choice!
I have been in the woods on the weekends since mid August reconing for my Buddies Multi season elk tag. Which means I may get back to my rig around midnite or back in the brush usually around 3 or 4 am. This has all been done in areas that I know have cougars and bears as well as a comfirmed quantity of wolves.
So far the largest defensive tool I have carried has been a 5 foot ultra light spinning rod ( My choice) when I walked into a couple of beaver ponds.
Not once yet have I felt I have been in great peril from any attacks.
Guess maybe I'm not a NBFC! :chuckle:
The only time I was a bit nervous was when he and I were in a Cedar bottom in the dark timber and we ran into a young Moose and was wondering where Momma was, hoping we didn't get between her and the little one. Then all I had was him to use as a shield. That's only if he was between her and I.
Real men don't need a weapon.......................... :fishin:
I hope you guys never stumble across a marijuana grow, or a mobile meth lab then, cause from what I understand those folks usually are armed. :twocents:
Ok so how did this go sideways from hunting in Cougar areas to Stumbling across the Marijuana patch?
That was not the Question.
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I don't see my choice!
I have been in the woods on the weekends since mid August reconing for my Buddies Multi season elk tag. Which means I may get back to my rig around midnite or back in the brush usually around 3 or 4 am. This has all been done in areas that I know have cougars and bears as well as a comfirmed quantity of wolves.
So far the largest defensive tool I have carried has been a 5 foot ultra light spinning rod ( My choice) when I walked into a couple of beaver ponds.
Not once yet have I felt I have been in great peril from any attacks.
Guess maybe I'm not a NBFC! :chuckle:
The only time I was a bit nervous was when he and I were in a Cedar bottom in the dark timber and we ran into a young Moose and was wondering where Momma was, hoping we didn't get between her and the little one. Then all I had was him to use as a shield. That's only if he was between her and I.
Real men don't need a weapon.......................... :fishin:
I hope you guys never stumble across a marijuana grow, or a mobile meth lab then, cause from what I understand those folks usually are armed. :twocents:
Ok so how did this go sideways from hunting in Cougar areas to Stumbling across the Marijuana patch?
That was not the Question.
I'm confused dude !
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I chose the 1911 not because of it's power but because i can keep all of my shot's on a paper plate at 50 yards with my kimber eclipse full size with Hornady 230grn +p . I would rather have something i am accurate with than something that has more recoil than i'm use to :twocents:
I'm with superdown any 1911; I Carry a Springfield Companion. I was trained on a 1911 in 1971 while in the Army and have carried one eversince. Even with the 1" shorter barel I still can keep most on a paper plate at 50 yards; most of the time I use Ball ammo. Kind of funny last year I found a big Blue sitting on a stump at about 30 yards. I said to myself "O" heck shoot it's head off; well the first 5 rounds missed #6 took off a foot and #7 took it's head. Good thing the were old WWII steel cased ball ammo.
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An old ugly girlfriend, worked everytime... :tup: