Post by: toyman2 on September 18, 2011, 08:31:05 AM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 18, 2011, 08:52:29 AM
Post by: firefighter4607 on September 18, 2011, 10:50:50 AM
Post by: Eli346 on September 18, 2011, 12:21:42 PM
Post by: toyman2 on September 18, 2011, 01:05:57 PM
Agnew again?
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Thats what i hear, but i dont know that for sure.
Id like pics from what i hear also.
I know of about 4 big bull tags around here also, hope they get them filled with some nice ones first. My hunting partner has one also, and i have got some good tips on "where we should camp" hope he gets a nice one.
Post by: TheHunt on September 18, 2011, 01:08:51 PM
Post by: Seabeckian on September 18, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
Post by: runamuk on September 18, 2011, 03:43:56 PM
Post by: BluMtWA on September 18, 2011, 05:18:48 PM
Agnew again?
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Thats what i hear, but i dont know that for sure.
Id like pics from what i hear also.
I know of about 4 big bull tags around here also, hope they get them filled with some nice ones first. My hunting partner has one also, and i have got some good tips on "where we should camp" hope he gets a nice one.
Post by: time2hunt on September 18, 2011, 05:58:25 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 18, 2011, 06:54:15 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on September 18, 2011, 08:08:10 PM
I guess I was in his area for 4 or 5 days early in the hunt, it coulda happened.
Post by: toyman2 on September 18, 2011, 08:19:51 PM
You want to play nice, hunt fair chase, its all good. These good ol boys around dont like being pushed around in there back yard.
As for me, I dare any pecker head to get in my way and tell me i cant hunt on public land. Who ever has the tag, its been rumored in town that they are trying to buy there way on some land with some top dollar stuff but got shot down.
Like i said, got some good leads on where some nice bulls are, ill be checking on them again next weekend. Trying to help my partner all i can. I have had eyes on a large herd, hoping i can keep up with them.
Post by: toyman2 on September 18, 2011, 08:46:40 PM
Spend some time around here, make some friends, volunteer some time, do some good, and you could have the world around here. There are still things money cant buy and i hope no land owner caves into the green.
Post by: Mr Mykiss on September 18, 2011, 09:00:42 PM
Talk around here is he is willing to throw the cash around, however this is Dayton and you cant buy us with cash.
Spend some time around here, make some friends, volunteer some time, do some good, and you could have the world around here. There are still things money cant buy and i hope no land owner caves into the green.
That would be nice if it were true. You sound awfully angry. I love dayton people, Woody's is the best and I can pretty much get anything I need at the DQS!! However 20K is a rediculous amount of money...
Post by: toyman2 on September 18, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
Post by: Caseyd on September 18, 2011, 11:16:18 PM
If it's the bull I'm thinking it is, pictures of the sheds arnt even allowed to be taken ;)
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 19, 2011, 07:24:15 AM
Talk around here is he is willing to throw the cash around, however this is Dayton and you cant buy us with cash.
Spend some time around here, make some friends, volunteer some time, do some good, and you could have the world around here. There are still things money cant buy and i hope no land owner caves into the green.
I agree with most things you say but locals have been bought the last few years. hopefully just a select few and it's not a growing problem.
I hope your buddy does well the right way :)
Post by: Mr Mykiss on September 19, 2011, 07:31:32 AM
pride has a big price tag. you live in Dayton?No but I love it. You live in Walla Walla? Pride does have a big price tag, if you have money. However 20K will buy you half a house in Dayton...
Post by: TheHunt on September 19, 2011, 07:49:30 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 19, 2011, 08:01:22 AM
I hope he gets a good one too. Agnew has got to have killed more 400+ inch bulls that anyone.Well Yeah .... when you got sheet loads of money to pay for it ...... :yeah:
Post by: toyman2 on September 19, 2011, 08:07:25 AM
Post by: gunnarnewt on September 19, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
Lol.... Obviously you've never looked at Real Estate here in Dayton! You can't even get a LOT for 20K! :o
Post by: Caseyd on September 19, 2011, 10:55:19 AM
Post by: demontang on September 19, 2011, 12:18:31 PM
Post by: M_ray on September 20, 2011, 06:59:20 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on September 20, 2011, 08:08:34 PM
Post by: M_ray on September 20, 2011, 09:00:34 PM
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Word on the street here, is Kevin Klumper
Got it :rolleyes: You put it with-in your quote that you copied so I missed it! :tung:
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on September 20, 2011, 09:02:33 PM
Post by: M_ray on September 20, 2011, 09:57:49 PM
Post by: toyman2 on September 22, 2011, 03:20:29 PM
Who ever the people are that are looking for the bull for the guy that has this tag, they should have the license taken away for all the treaspassing they are doing. From some of the land owners it sounds as if these guys think they have the right away to whatever they want.
I hate to say it but I am starting to be glad they are shutting down all the hunting with permission, or better said not giving permission to hunters.
with some of the things that i have been hearing i think id be walking my fence line alot and very armed. What ever happen to respecting someones place.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 22, 2011, 05:29:39 PM
Well not the one the Gov tag was watching but a nice bull was taken earlier this week, 9x6 i think it was.
Who ever the people are that are looking for the bull for the guy that has this tag, they should have the license taken away for all the treaspassing they are doing. From some of the land owners it sounds as if these guys think they have the right away to whatever they want.
I hate to say it but I am starting to be glad they are shutting down all the hunting with permission, or better said not giving permission to hunters.
with some of the things that i have been hearing i think id be walking my fence line alot and very armed. What ever happen to respecting someones place.
First off I say I believe you but be careful I was basically told I have no clue what I am talking about with the tresspassing. Thing is are the land owners calling it in. I am sure the warden would do something about it if they would..
Anyone got pic of that bull?
Post by: toyman2 on September 22, 2011, 06:42:01 PM
I do have one pic of the bull, however i was never told it was ok to show it. I will wait till it is ok, and or the pictures start to spread around.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 22, 2011, 07:43:15 PM
Post by: jager on September 22, 2011, 09:02:16 PM
c'mon :)
Post by: jackelope on September 23, 2011, 07:11:17 AM
I only know what i have been told. When i lived at home we had the same problem with trespassers every year, so if it is true do feel for the land owners.
I do have one pic of the bull, however i was never told it was ok to show it. I will wait till it is ok, and or the pictures start to spread around.
I know guys who were with the auction guy last night. They said they were still hunting, no dead bull and they were going home for a while. One of the Mossback guys was with them, they were all in camo and no blood. They were coming from dinner.
:dunno:
I suspect the auction guy is still hunting, and so is Brad.
Post by: runamuk on September 23, 2011, 07:30:52 AM
I only know what i have been told. When i lived at home we had the same problem with trespassers every year, so if it is true do feel for the land owners.
I do have one pic of the bull, however i was never told it was ok to show it. I will wait till it is ok, and or the pictures start to spread around.
fireman you are evil....pics of a big bull and no sharing .... :(
Post by: jackelope on September 23, 2011, 08:55:08 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on September 23, 2011, 08:57:41 AM
You are complaining about MB trespassing everywhere around there (sounds like you don't like them...)
However you are one of the first to have a picture of the bull, where did you get it?
Are you friends/acquaintances with one of the MB guides?
Did you commandeer a photo through a stealth mission to peek over the bed of the pickup?
Seems strange that you're so anti MB yet you're close enough to have a picture of the bull before anyone knows that it was shot...
I'm bored so what say you? ... "Well allow me to retort!!" -SLJ
PS: I was really close to where MB was hunting and never really had problems but I'm not the owner of the land they were trespassing on, if I owned/leased land and had a big bull tag I would be irate if somebody with the Gov tag and a rifle were trespassing on my land!!
PPS: I hope the one that I got with a bow and arrow during archery season is bigger... probably not :(
Post by: Wyoming08 on September 23, 2011, 09:21:53 AM
I hate people who tresspass on property and who are unethical in their hunting activities..
Hopefully the Guy who has the Governors Tag gets a beautiful bull! I just hope he gets it by being a true Hunter!
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 23, 2011, 10:38:29 AM
Post by: toyman2 on September 23, 2011, 10:53:46 AM
Toyman, only to rattle your cage...
You are complaining about MB trespassing everywhere around there (sounds like you don't like them...)
However you are one of the first to have a picture of the bull, where did you get it?
Are you friends/acquaintances with one of the MB guides?
Did you commandeer a photo through a stealth mission to peek over the bed of the pickup?
Seems strange that you're so anti MB yet you're close enough to have a picture of the bull before anyone knows that it was shot...
I'm bored so what say you? ... "Well allow me to retort!!" -SLJ
PS: I was really close to where MB was hunting and never really had problems but I'm not the owner of the land they were trespassing on, if I owned/leased land and had a big bull tag I would be irate if somebody with the Gov tag and a rifle were trespassing on my land!!
PPS: I hope the one that I got with a bow and arrow during archery season is bigger... probably not :(
I have nothing against anyone, other than those that wont or dont respect someone elses personal property. I dont know who these guys are and have never met them however if what i am hearing from land owners and locals is true then i guess yes i would not like what they stand for. this or that has nothing to do with the MB name or who the people are, I dont just hate those trespassers(if its true) i hate all trespassers equal.
The bull i have a one bad pic of is NOT the Gov tag bull, it was a local guy that got a sweet draw. Yes I am friends with the guys in this small group/family and he did get a nice bull that had nothing to do with MB, he got that bull from hard work not buying it.
I love to see pics of people getting nice bulls, however if you dont get it using ethics, respect, sportsmanship, and hard work then I personaly have a gripe about it. Keep in mind this is the way I feel and I am not speaking for anyone else. Even though i dont care for the GOV tag I do like to see the impressive animals.
Post by: TheHunt on September 23, 2011, 11:03:07 AM
Toyman, only to rattle your cage...
You are complaining about MB trespassing everywhere around there (sounds like you don't like them...)
However you are one of the first to have a picture of the bull, where did you get it?
Are you friends/acquaintances with one of the MB guides?
Did you commandeer a photo through a stealth mission to peek over the bed of the pickup?
Seems strange that you're so anti MB yet you're close enough to have a picture of the bull before anyone knows that it was shot...
I'm bored so what say you? ... "Well allow me to retort!!" -SLJ
PS: I was really close to where MB was hunting and never really had problems but I'm not the owner of the land they were trespassing on, if I owned/leased land and had a big bull tag I would be irate if somebody with the Gov tag and a rifle were trespassing on my land!!
PPS: I hope the one that I got with a bow and arrow during archery season is bigger... probably not :(
Kiss, You have no idea who or what Toy does, lives, grew up and contacts. No big deal just fun to read your comment.
Post by: Mr Mykiss on September 23, 2011, 11:44:29 AM
Post by: aer212 on September 23, 2011, 12:30:20 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on September 23, 2011, 12:58:46 PM
I'm easily confused...
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 28, 2011, 08:31:19 PM
Post by: toyman2 on September 28, 2011, 11:19:06 PM
Post by: hunterrcc on September 28, 2011, 11:44:31 PM
Not saying that MB is ethical/or not cause I never have had a problem or heard first hand a complaint about them. just saying!!! if you scout alot and hunt hard and have high paying clients to support your Gas bill well more power to you... get off your computer and find your next trophy!
Post by: Miles on September 29, 2011, 12:06:21 AM
Post by: huntnnw on September 29, 2011, 12:12:25 AM
Post by: Maverick on September 29, 2011, 12:15:06 AM
Post by: Miles on September 29, 2011, 12:35:04 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on September 29, 2011, 06:16:00 AM
Who is Mossback, and what is the Gov. tag?
mossback is a guide service that no one cares for.... :chuckle:
and the gov tag is an auctioned elk tag in wa. I've heard all sorts of rumors about it like they track the bull w micro chip lol. I read on mossbacks website that you can call him and bid on the phone while he's at the auction. Rich people stuff.
Post by: bowhuntersd on September 29, 2011, 07:30:30 AM
Hunter I agree with you buy IF they are trespassing then they need to be punished and charged. Just cause they can hunt and have money doesn't give them the right to think they can do whatever they want. All weve heard on here is talk talk talk about them but no proof and nobodys been written up. Imyself dont agree with the gov tag anyway. I don't like that guys can just buy the tag and shoot a big bull. Put in for the drawings and do it like the rest of us. All the guys that scout and put in the time watching the big bulls and dream of getting drawn and then some rich guy .swoops in and shoots it. I don't believe paid guided trophys should be allowed to go in the record books. Get out and earn it yourself. Its more of a trophy when you do.I agree with both of you to some point on this. They are not above the law and should be punished the same as anyone else. They put in there time and I'm sure work their a$$es finding the animals for clients, IMO if we all could do what we love to do for a living we doing the same thing. Spending time in the woods, pursuing the beasts and making money. Hunting guides are needed and important, they are just another tool you can use (like a GPS, Compass,Etc.). As far as not being able to be in the books if you use a guide.... Come on- so if a guy has a better scope on his riffle than you does that mean he can't be in the books either? Some people can afford better equipment than others and a guide is expensive piece of equipment.
Post by: coachcw on September 29, 2011, 07:33:29 AM
Post by: TheHunt on September 29, 2011, 10:04:19 AM
Id be buying those tags if I could afford them . If The guys break the law then bust them if not leave them be. Envey is running amuck !
So now we are dragging Runamuck through the mud as well. We all like to do that to Run :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: coachcw on September 29, 2011, 11:29:11 AM
Post by: huntnphool on September 29, 2011, 11:49:22 AM
Hunter I agree with you buy IF they are trespassing then they need to be punished and charged. Just cause they can hunt and have money doesn't give them the right to think they can do whatever they want. All weve heard on here is talk talk talk about them but no proof and nobodys been written up. Imyself dont agree with the gov tag anyway. I don't like that guys can just buy the tag and shoot a big bull. Put in for the drawings and do it like the rest of us. All the guys that scout and put in the time watching the big bulls and dream of getting drawn and then some rich guy .swoops in and shoots it. I don't believe paid guided trophys should be allowed to go in the record books. Get out and earn it yourself. Its more of a trophy when you do.
Just to clear it up they are not trespassing, those of you that are saying they are are way off base.
Maverick, the tag holder is out there hiking every day, "earning it". Don't hate the player, hate the game. Most do not have the means to purchase the tag, does that make those that do have the means bad people? It says a lot about a man that judges someone by rumor or finacial status rather than waiting until they meet them in person.
Since there are so many experts out here, why don't you haters tell us all how many days the tag holder has been out there hunting for his elk, it should be easy since he was seen trespassing all over the place. :chuckle:
I think you all would be shocked to know how long he has been scouting/hunting/hiking this season.
Post by: 400out on September 29, 2011, 11:52:07 AM
Good point hunt, I would imagine most would have gave up out of flustration by now :twocents:Hunter I agree with you buy IF they are trespassing then they need to be punished and charged. Just cause they can hunt and have money doesn't give them the right to think they can do whatever they want. All weve heard on here is talk talk talk about them but no proof and nobodys been written up. Imyself dont agree with the gov tag anyway. I don't like that guys can just buy the tag and shoot a big bull. Put in for the drawings and do it like the rest of us. All the guys that scout and put in the time watching the big bulls and dream of getting drawn and then some rich guy .swoops in and shoots it. I don't believe paid guided trophys should be allowed to go in the record books. Get out and earn it yourself. Its more of a trophy when you do.
Just to clear it up they are not trespassing, those of you that are saying they are are way off base.
Maverick, the tag holder is out there hiking every day, "earning it". Don't hate the player, hate the game. Most do not have the means to purchase the tag, does that make those that do have the means bad people? It says a lot about a man that judges someone by rumor or finacial status rather than waiting until they meet them in person.
Since there are so many experts out here, why don't you haters tell us all how many days the tag holder has been out there hunting for his elk, it should be easy since he was seen trespassing all over the place. :chuckle:
I think you all would be shocked to know how long he has been scouting/hunting/hiking this season.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on September 29, 2011, 11:57:57 AM
Post by: coachcw on September 29, 2011, 02:07:12 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 29, 2011, 02:13:43 PM
Good point Sky :tup:
Post by: toyman2 on September 29, 2011, 08:08:31 PM
Post by: julzzz on September 29, 2011, 08:24:06 PM
Post by: jackelope on September 29, 2011, 08:40:46 PM
Julie, are you talking about Tod? Tod has the Eastside raffle tag, Kevin has the Governor Tag. Just wondering, Tod is a hard huntin ol buzzard, DIY type of guy. When he kills one, he'll have earned it. Later
Brad, or Rafflemule on here has the eastside elk raffle tag. I think Todd has the southeast combo raffle whatever you call it deer/elk/bear choose your poison raffle. I might be wrong about what Todd has, but I'm completely sure it's not the eastside elk raffle tag.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on September 29, 2011, 08:44:06 PM
Post by: bearpaw on September 29, 2011, 08:53:02 PM
Post by: julzzz on September 29, 2011, 09:00:26 PM
Post by: julzzz on September 29, 2011, 09:17:07 PM
Post by: jager on September 29, 2011, 09:21:54 PM
I've been to the sheep show and have seen guys spend 100K on sheep tags...It's pretty awesome!
Post by: julzzz on September 29, 2011, 09:26:04 PM
Post by: toyman2 on September 29, 2011, 09:42:08 PM
I guess what i really dont agree with is the buying a bull type of hunt, some seem to do it and some seem not to.
also like i said, i only have what the land owners have said to me, i also have not included all the details of the people that treaspass on the private land for a reason.
I just wish people would respect others land.
I really want to see the bull this guy get.
Post by: huntnphool on September 29, 2011, 09:45:49 PM
I'm glad this topic has gotten a little more sensible. You can't blame anyone for purchasing a quality tag if they can afford it and it's for sale. I don't care how hard they hunt, that is up to them. If you don't like the system then work to get it changed, but I don't think it's benficial to bash another hunter unless you know for certain he has tresspassed or broken laws. I hate to see all the bashing unless its based on solid truthful information, only then I would say it was deserved. :twocents:
Well said Dale, some of these comments are slanderous, defamatory and just plain lies. Do these guys really believe Kevin would risk his name, his company and everything he has worked for just for a few more inches of bone on the head of an elk? :chuckle: The green monster of jealousy has reared his ugly head once again, unbelievable! :DOH:
Post by: Huntbear on September 29, 2011, 09:58:35 PM
Id be buying those tags if I could afford them . If The guys break the law then bust them if not leave them be. Envey is running amuck !
So now we are dragging Runamuck through the mud as well. We all like to do that to Run :chuckle: :chuckle:
You guys dragging the princess's name thru the mud..... bad juju... :bdid: :bdid: :nono: :nono: :spank_butt: :spank_butt: :spank_butt: :peep:
Post by: TheHunt on September 30, 2011, 12:34:51 PM
Post by: ShirtGuy77 on September 30, 2011, 12:42:42 PM
Oh, but so and so told my aunts neighbors friends dentist....It's rediculous....I'm debating on whether to post pictures of my spike, or raghorn (if I'm lucky enough to get either) for fear that it will be called out as photoshopped!
Post by: Bonedar208 on September 30, 2011, 12:58:53 PM
Post by: runamuk on September 30, 2011, 01:28:17 PM
Id be buying those tags if I could afford them . If The guys break the law then bust them if not leave them be. Envey is running amuck !
So now we are dragging Runamuck through the mud as well. We all like to do that to Run :chuckle: :chuckle:
You guys dragging the princess's name thru the mud..... bad juju... :bdid: :bdid: :nono: :nono: :spank_butt: :spank_butt: :spank_butt: :peep:
hey mud can be good...and big bulls are also good...
OH you all were dragging me through the mud...gotcha make sure you remember to hose me off when you are done....carry on
Post by: firefighter4607 on September 30, 2011, 01:34:17 PM
Yes I do own land and it is as simple as putting zip ties in your rig and zip tying up the *censored* that is trespassing
I would think that would be a crime to tie someone up against their will. I would think you will be leaving your land in handcuffs. My family also owns land we tell the tresspassers to leave if we know we have kicked them off before then we call law enforcement. I have also taken pictures of them and one picture of a illegal animal that they killed. Call Fish and Game gave them the photo and that was it. WDFW did what they do and issued a ticket.
I wonder what Bigtex would have to say about the zip tie thing.
Post by: huntnphool on September 30, 2011, 01:35:20 PM
It's rediculous....I'm debating on whether to post pictures of my spike, or raghorn (if I'm lucky enough to get either) for fear that it will be called out as photoshopped!
This is exactly why you don't see these guys post pics or stories from their hunts too, it's too bad because they have good pics and info to share.
Post by: Woodchuck on September 30, 2011, 01:48:20 PM
Post by: Caseyd on September 30, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
Yes I do own land and it is as simple as putting zip ties in your rig and zip tying up the *censored* that is trespassing
I would think that would be a crime to tie someone up against their will. I would think you will be leaving your land in handcuffs. My family also owns land we tell the tresspassers to leave if we know we have kicked them off before then we call law enforcement. I have also taken pictures of them and one picture of a illegal animal that they killed. Call Fish and Game gave them the photo and that was it. WDFW did what they do and issued a ticket.
I wonder what Bigtex would have to say about the zip tie thing.
:yeah:
But I am so curious because I believe if you have contacted authorities you can detain someone until the authorities arrive. (Citizens Detention, similar to citizens arrest but without transport) Could be way off though :chuckle:
Sorry for the :jacked:
Post by: coachcw on September 30, 2011, 04:49:33 PM
Post by: TheHunt on September 30, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
Post by: Huntbear on September 30, 2011, 05:31:27 PM
Does that count???? :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :dunno: :dunno:
Post by: Austrian Hunter on September 30, 2011, 05:36:55 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on October 06, 2011, 10:42:44 AM
Post by: Caseyd on October 06, 2011, 10:45:06 AM
The pressure will hit a high starting next week though, steady line of trucks from tri-cities
Post by: deerslyr on October 06, 2011, 11:05:47 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on October 06, 2011, 11:28:30 AM
that would be some expensive tag soup if he ends up eating it :chuckle:That would be like one of us losing $20...
Post by: jackelope on October 06, 2011, 12:13:07 PM
Post by: bearpaw on October 06, 2011, 12:14:47 PM
Post by: Caseyd on October 06, 2011, 01:24:39 PM
I hope we get to read the story and see the pics.... :tup:
:yeah: :yeah:
Post by: huntnphool on October 07, 2011, 05:23:33 PM
I hope we get to read the story and see the pics.... :tup:
It would be nice but will never happen with some of the comments that get thrown around on here. Too bad too because Kevin is a nice guy.
He has several other hunts lined up and will likely start looking again after they are done, mid to late November will have the bulls grouped up again and a little easier to locate, I'd be surprised if he went back out on this tag until then. :twocents: