Post by: timberghost72 on September 18, 2011, 11:23:52 AM
Also I am using Barnes 180 gr TSX with IMR 4350 and my groupings are not very good. Any suggestions on power to try? I would like to keep the 180 gr bullets.
Post by: JPhelps on September 18, 2011, 11:45:50 AM
I don't have any real world experience as I have always used brass casings.
Post by: elkslayer069 on September 18, 2011, 11:50:30 AM
Post by: buckhorn2 on September 18, 2011, 12:05:04 PM
Post by: JKEEN33 on September 18, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
I use IMR 4831 for both the 300 and 325. Both shoot great groups, but who knows in a different rifle.
Post by: timberghost72 on September 18, 2011, 12:22:17 PM
I have some of the nickle plated brass for my 300WSM and 325WSM. I have always heard it was hard to re-size and not to use it, but I have not had any issues with it. Make sure it is extra clean. One of the things I have read is it is harder and can scratch your dies. I just make sure its very clean and well lubed and have had no issues.
I use IMR 4831 for both the 300 and 325. Both shoot great groups, but who knows in a different rifle.
I have read and heard the opposite. Carbide is harder than nickel. So theroetically they shouldn't scratch or gall the dies. Any metalurgists here??
Post by: JKEEN33 on September 18, 2011, 12:29:09 PM
I have some of the nickle plated brass for my 300WSM and 325WSM. I have always heard it was hard to re-size and not to use it, but I have not had any issues with it. Make sure it is extra clean. One of the things I have read is it is harder and can scratch your dies. I just make sure its very clean and well lubed and have had no issues.
I use IMR 4831 for both the 300 and 325. Both shoot great groups, but who knows in a different rifle.
I have read and heard the opposite. Carbide is harder than nickel. So theroetically they shouldn't scratch or gall the dies. Any metalurgists here??
The nickle plating is harder than just the regular brass is what I was going for. That added to dirty casings may scratch the die. Like I said, I have not found that to be the case. I use them where most don't.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 18, 2011, 12:47:36 PM
Post by: predatorpro on September 18, 2011, 01:17:31 PM
I have about 40 pieces of 300 WSM nickel plated brass and also a bunch of .357 mag and was wondering if there are any problems with using these as opposed to brass. Pros/cons? I am more interested in the 300 WSM then the .357 mag.barnes tsx suck (i think they are just too long) i hated them in my gun they leave rediculous amounts of copper residue in your barrel and shoot like piss compared to anything else i have loaded, clean your barrel extremely well and go get some berger 180gr vld youll love em i will never shoot anything else in my 30-06
Also I am using Barnes 180 gr TSX with IMR 4350 and my groupings are not very good. Any suggestions on power to try? I would like to keep the 180 gr bullets.
Post by: SkookumJeff on September 18, 2011, 01:22:40 PM
Commenting on your accuracy, in case you don't know this...Barnes recommends seating their bullets some distance from the lands, starting at .05 and if necessary experimenting with seating depth from there...
This is different from traditional jacketed or cast bullet reloading technique which most folks seat to within .015 or less from the lands to minimize bullet 'jump'. I've had very good results with accuracy with Barnes TSX bullets.
http://www.barnesbullets.com/information/bullet-talk/faq/ (http://www.barnesbullets.com/information/bullet-talk/faq/)
Skook
Post by: timberghost72 on September 18, 2011, 06:15:02 PM
I have about 40 pieces of 300 WSM nickel plated brass and also a bunch of .357 mag and was wondering if there are any problems with using these as opposed to brass. Pros/cons? I am more interested in the 300 WSM then the .357 mag.barnes tsx suck (i think they are just too long) i hated them in my gun they leave rediculous amounts of copper residue in your barrel and shoot like piss compared to anything else i have loaded, clean your barrel extremely well and go get some berger 180gr vld youll love em i will never shoot anything else in my 30-06
Also I am using Barnes 180 gr TSX with IMR 4350 and my groupings are not very good. Any suggestions on power to try? I would like to keep the 180 gr bullets.
I have to disagree. I load up 165 gr TSX for my 30-06 and can put them in a group no bigger than a quarter at 100 yards. That added to the fact that they put a hurtin on anything they hit make them a great bullet.
Post by: timberghost72 on September 18, 2011, 06:18:33 PM
I have not noticed any significant issues using nickel plated brass over non plated brass.
Commenting on your accuracy, in case you don't know this...Barnes recommends seating their bullets some distance from the lands, starting at .05 and if necessary experimenting with seating depth from there...
This is different from traditional jacketed or cast bullet reloading technique which most folks seat to within .015 or less from the lands to minimize bullet 'jump'. I've had very good results with accuracy with Barnes TSX bullets.
http://www.barnesbullets.com/information/bullet-talk/faq/ (http://www.barnesbullets.com/information/bullet-talk/faq/)
Skook
This is something that I need to learn. Right now I am just using the Barnes data for seating depth from the manual.
I wish that Winchester would sell their xp3 bullets. Those factory loads shoot good out of my 300 WSM and I have shot one animal with them and was impressed.
Post by: fremont on September 18, 2011, 07:40:13 PM
Post by: MDGrand on September 20, 2011, 02:43:00 PM
All in all, I get good results from them, however I have noticed chipping and from what I heard, they can be harder to resize.
Also, in researching nickle plated brass, I have read that they are meant to be one and done and apparently are NOT recommended for reloading.
I like the looks and the performance is just fine, so to each his own I guess.
As far as Barnes bullets..
Those are some of the best and from what I hear MOST people say inheritinly accurate bullets in MOST rifles. I find Barnes, Berger and Nosler to be the best and most advanced bullets out there.
Being all coppper, if shot a lot, they can give more copper fouling than most, but I don't shoot a ton of them. once I find a good receipe I just load em up.
Post by: BurlyDogLasers on September 20, 2011, 03:10:44 PM
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Post by: timberghost72 on September 21, 2011, 09:09:14 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on September 21, 2011, 09:33:45 PM
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I have only heard of carbide pistol dies, not rifle dies. Where can you find carbide rifle dies? I would love a set so I don't have to use case lube anymore.
Post by: fremont on September 25, 2011, 07:59:56 PM
Post by: runningboard on September 25, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
good luck
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