Post by: 12 gauge watergun on September 22, 2011, 06:14:51 PM
Post by: Dirty Mike on September 22, 2011, 06:29:56 PM
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Post by: Biggerhammer on September 22, 2011, 07:14:30 PM
glock 23-- 40. i have put several animals down with a 40 mostly hogs and w/t but i have faith in it
I agree, I carried a Glock 23 .40 cal EVEYWHERE for 10 years or so. Since I have gone to .45 acp in all my Auto's.
Post by: grizzlyadams on September 22, 2011, 07:19:54 PM
glock 29 10mm
:yeah: Thats what I carry only the full size G20. Its got way more power and penetration than either one. I use Double Taps 10 mm specials 200 grain cooking at 1420 fps. Additionally for under $100 you can get a 40 cal barrel to throw in it for cheaper plinking. Not to mention the G20 is legal for hunting in washington....the G29 is not due to the shorter barrel. If you ever have to finish an animal and do it with your 40 cal......you're breaking the law.
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 22, 2011, 07:35:01 PM
Post by: 12 gauge watergun on September 22, 2011, 08:36:38 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 22, 2011, 08:47:49 PM
Post by: 12 gauge watergun on September 22, 2011, 09:11:45 PM
I am not a modern season guy so I don't know the regs, but I've been told that as long as it was a larger caliber than a .24 caliber, it was legal as long as the barrel was longer than 4 inches. The .40 meets those requirements or am I misinterpreting the language again?
Post by: seth30 on September 22, 2011, 09:14:22 PM
Post by: wreckerman5357 on September 22, 2011, 09:35:05 PM
If you ever have to finish an animal and do it with your 40 cal......you're breaking the law.
I am not a modern season guy so I don't know the regs, but I've been told that as long as it was a larger caliber than a .24 caliber, it was legal as long as the barrel was longer than 4 inches. The .40 meets those requirements or am I misinterpreting the language again?
You are correct. The regs changed to include and centerfire, greater than .24 caliber, and coming out of a 4" or longer barrel a few years ago. Before that it was based on whether the caliber would deliver a minimum amount of energy.
Post by: Huntbear on September 23, 2011, 07:11:10 AM
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Post by: goosegetter79 on September 23, 2011, 11:19:11 AM
As far as the question at hand I would go with the .357 :twocents:
Post by: jackelope on September 23, 2011, 11:31:51 AM
Ok he asked for opinion's between the two caliber's .40 and .357, not what caliber should he get!!!
As far as the question at hand I would go with the .357 :twocents:
Seemed pretty straight forward to me too. .40or .357... I have one of each and always go with the .40 although I'm not sure why.
It's the 2 legged mammals I worry about more than the 4 legged ones.
Post by: GoldTip on September 23, 2011, 11:33:38 AM
Post by: yakimarcher on September 23, 2011, 11:36:10 AM
Post by: Alchase on September 23, 2011, 12:18:48 PM
http://waterguy.us/handgun.htm (http://waterguy.us/handgun.htm)
Both will hande anything this state throws at you.
Between the two I would choose the most availabe/cost effective = 0.40 cal
Though I do love the 10 MM, cost of ammo is significant over the others.
Post by: mazama on September 24, 2011, 10:08:40 AM
Post by: woodman on September 24, 2011, 10:31:31 AM
Revolvers always go bang,not so with automatics,have owned lots of autos,and revolvers,it's been the autos that have failed to fire,i own a G20-10MM, but i carry a reviover in woods.
I own both and carry my 357 revolver for this very reason. It has worked on four legged and two legged when the time called for it.
Ok he asked for opinion's between the two caliber's .40 and .357, not what caliber should he get!!!
As far as the question at hand I would go with the .357 :twocents:
Seemed pretty straight forward to me too. .40or .357... I have one of each and always go with the .40 although I'm not sure why.
It's the 2 legged mammals I worry about more than the 4 legged ones.
Post by: satchel3006 on September 24, 2011, 03:04:52 PM
Post by: RadSav on September 24, 2011, 03:43:33 PM
Cats are the only four legged thing I worry about here in Washington. I'd be comfortable with either for cats and two legged dirt bags. But, if you have concerns about bear or big foot I'd carry the extra weight and use the .357.
Agree 100% with the wheel guns being more reliable.
Post by: Bofire on September 24, 2011, 04:41:15 PM
my 2
Carl
Post by: mulehunter on September 24, 2011, 05:03:30 PM
Mulehunter
Post by: ecnclan on September 24, 2011, 06:26:09 PM
Post by: timberghost72 on September 24, 2011, 08:05:21 PM
Post by: Wazukie on September 24, 2011, 08:19:53 PM
Post by: FC on September 24, 2011, 10:07:57 PM
I have two friends that are Oregon State Gamies. Both have had issues putting animals down with the .40 after car/animal collisions. Not pretty when kids and bleeding hearts are watching. They now carry the .357 and have had no issues.
Tell them where to shoot the poor critters then! If they can't kill a deer/elk/bear that is wounded on the side of the road with a .40 then they need a lesson in shot placement...
Post by: RadSav on September 24, 2011, 11:20:44 PM
Post by: RadSav on September 24, 2011, 11:36:29 PM
Post by: FC on September 25, 2011, 12:56:26 AM
I apologies! Just been in one of those :sas: moods today.
No problem at all! I think we both know what we would do, protocol be damned. A heart/lung shot will do nicely with issue hollow points. I would be very curious what bullet they are using that so outperforms a 40 hp in 357mag for a head shot, 125gr JSP?
Post by: RadSav on September 25, 2011, 03:51:42 AM
Back when I was guiding I switched from the 1911 .45 to the Delta Elite 10mm. Was very impressed with it even though no situation ever arose to use it in the field after I switched. Twice previously with the .45 which performed exceptionally well at 6 feet on bear head on. Both were double taps to the chest. 444 Marlin at 18" did a sweet job too :chuckle: That was fun once I changed my shorts and began seeing more than bright white.
Post by: blackhorn on September 25, 2011, 07:36:16 AM
Post by: 12 gauge watergun on September 26, 2011, 10:05:28 PM
Blackhorn.
The .40 pistol is actually lighter with 15 rounds in it than the 5 inch GP-100 with 6, but not by much. I have been in the woods all week carrying both and it sucks being in a vehicle with a 5 inch so I took it off for a while when I was driving and have been carrying the .40 since just because of comfortability and concealment.
To prove to myself it wasn't a bad choice I set up two old archery blocks on their sides and end-to-end (not the way it's designed to be shot at..oh yeah and not with pistols :chuckle:) and the .40 (Double Tap)was only 8 sheets short of the .357 (Buffalo Bore) which left me suprised. Anyhow I am still in newlywed love with my SR40. Thing freakin rocks.
Post by: hillbilli on September 27, 2011, 08:11:09 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on September 29, 2011, 06:35:06 PM
Post by: brush hunter on October 01, 2011, 11:01:05 AM
Here's your best answer : Cops carry 40 cal's for a reason, not 357's. That should sum it up very well.Only because they can put more lead in the air in the hope of hitting something. Not stopping power
Post by: timberghost72 on October 01, 2011, 01:15:22 PM
More cost effective too. .40 cal is ok for people. Animals are much tougher. :twocents:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 01, 2011, 05:02:41 PM
Here's your best answer : Cops carry 40 cal's for a reason, not 357's. That should sum it up very well.Only because they can put more lead in the air in the hope of hitting something. Not stopping power
Not true. Read the Hatcher report on stopping power of cartridges. 40 cal is better than a 357.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 01, 2011, 05:08:00 PM
:yeah:
More cost effective too. .40 cal is ok for people. Animals are much tougher. :twocents:
I don't know about the animal idea myself. I know they don't whine and cry like people do when they get shot, survival thing I bet..... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: 300rum on October 01, 2011, 05:18:11 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 01, 2011, 05:24:20 PM
Either one, it really doesn't matter.
That's right. A 22lr will stop someone too, dead in their tracks. :dunno:
Post by: 300rum on October 01, 2011, 05:35:40 PM
A .357 can be a little overbearing when loaded with magnum rounds. .40 in a full size semi auto is snappy. My split times are much quicker with a .40 because of that difference. Both are accurate depending on the pistol. Either way differences are minor, buy what you like, you will be well served by either.
Either one, it really doesn't matter.
That's right. A 22lr will stop someone too, dead in their tracks. :dunno:
Post by: brush hunter on October 01, 2011, 06:17:11 PM
Simply not true. but you can believe what you want about the .40 and the .357Here's your best answer : Cops carry 40 cal's for a reason, not 357's. That should sum it up very well.Only because they can put more lead in the air in the hope of hitting something. Not stopping power
Not true. Read the Hatcher report on stopping power of cartridges. 40 cal is better than a 357.
Post by: 300rum on October 01, 2011, 07:06:14 PM
Typically I just throw a couple of speed loaders in the pack if I am carrying the revolver, a couple of extra mags if an auto.
When in snake country I carry a couple of .38 bird shot in a pocket with the revolver, I do like the revolvers for snake country. With an auto I will carry bird shot down the tube for my first shot with ball/etc. in the magazine. I know that I have to waste the first shot for anything other than a snake, that is the drawback I suppose. I have missed on a couple of coyotes doing this though.
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