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Community => Butchering, Cooking, Recipes => Topic started by: quadrafire on September 26, 2011, 06:57:36 PM
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Anyone ever clean an "old" cast iron skillet from the "brink" of its life? I was wondering about sanding the "heck" out of one and re-seasoning. Any tips/hints?
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Just stick it in a bed of coals or over a flame until it's glowing red hot, let it cool slowly, then season it with olive oil.
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get rid of the rust, oil the hell out of it get it hot oil it again, get it hot, never use soap. just cook, empty, add water boil it, dump it out. oil it. it should turn black soon, oil it then oil it and heat it and did I say oil it?
Carl
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get rid of the rust, oil the hell out of it get it hot oil it again, get it hot, never use soap. just cook, empty, add water boil it, dump it out. oil it. it should turn black soon, oil it then oil it and heat it and did I say oil it?
Carl
Yeah something like that :chuckle: :tup:
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Yea I only boil water in them, then scrub. BUT, if you were to find one in bad condition, say at a garage sale. Would you sand the 'heck' out of it? Prior to the above treatments?
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Yes, you can sand the kay~rap out of it as much as u want. As long as u restart the seasoning process right after your done. You'll be basically starting over like it was just out of the cast... :twocents:
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Thanks Rae----that is what I was thinking.
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Just stick it in a bed of coals or over a flame until it's glowing red hot, let it cool slowly, then season it with olive oil.
Only sand if needed and use Crisco and not olive oil it will last longer. If it smells rancid use 25 to 1 apple cider vinegar to water to rid the smell. This also works on all cutting boards to rid the smell and little buggers in the boards.
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I put mine in the BBQ and get it as hot as I can. When Hot I use some bacon grease, then wipe the excess off with a towel.
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Google how to season cast iron pans and they have a lot of info
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Just stick it in a bed of coals or over a flame until it's glowing red hot, let it cool slowly, then season it with olive oil.
Only sand if needed and use Crisco and not olive oil it will last longer. If it smells rancid use 25 to 1 apple cider vinegar to water to rid the smell. This also works on all cutting boards to rid the smell and little buggers in the boards.
To each his own :DOH:
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I am not wondering how to season one, but if one is "on its last leg" what would you do? I have several that I maintain in good shape. To the point of berating my wife when she puts them in the sink!!! I have never "sanded one down, but am tempted.
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A wire wheel works better than sanding.
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Cast iron would be fun to cook with as a culinary option, but damn this sounds so high maintenance.
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I use hot water and scotch bright pad. Wash and scrub until clean. Place back in a preheated (350degree) oven and dry completely. then oil with Crisco and back in and let cool. Then you will be ready to cook with it.
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Never had to deal with rust. If your refering to cakeing (build up on or in the pan). I just throw in the self cleaning oven. Works wonders then all you have to do is wipe it out an reseason it. When done it will almost look new.
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I use hot water and scotch bright pad. Wash and scrub until clean. Place back in a preheated (350degree) oven and dry completely. then oil with Crisco and back in and let cool. Then you will be ready to cook with it.
I have done that in the past but since I use my cast iron skillets every day, I wash (yes even with soap) and dry on the stove top. About once a month I will reseason them. However since mine are really really well seasoned to the point of being completely black I dont worry about the soap too much.
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Cast iron would be fun to cook with as a culinary option, but damn this sounds so high maintenance.
Once you get them seasoned, the maintenance is minimal. I scrub off the rust and put vegetable oil on it and rub in salt. I stick it in the oven for 30 minutes at 500F. Let it cool on the stovetop and then wipe it out and oil it again without the salt. If the pan isn't fairly non-stick, repeat the process. Again, once you've been successful, these should stay non-stick. Don't wash them with soapy water, just hot water to loosen stuck food and wipe with a dry towel, oiling when you're done with vegetable oil.
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SomeOne gave me a couple cast iron pants they had sitting outside all rusted up. All I did was take a wire wheel & knock the rust off everywhere inside & out, they reseason them.
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so how did they turn out?
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The hands down best way to clean cast iron is to use the electrolysis method.
It's fairly easy to set up and works fantastic.
To season a pan just place it in an oven cranked up to 500 degrees for about 20 minutes.
Remove the pan from the oven and take it outside or in your garage and wipe it down with Crisco.
You will get lots of smoke from the burning oil which is why you don't want to do this step in your house.
Keep applying the Crisco until the pan cools to the point of no longer smoking then use a paper towel to remove any excess oil.
You will end up with a perfectly seasoned pan!
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Good as new whacker. Although I must be doing something wrong, to keep my seasoning on all my pans I'm constantly having to season them once a month probably.
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The hands down best way to clean cast iron is to use the electrolysis method.
It's fairly easy to set up and works fantastic.
To season a pan just place it in an oven cranked up to 500 degrees for about 20 minutes.
Remove the pan from the oven and take it outside or in your garage and wipe it down with Crisco.
You will get lots of smoke from the burning oil which is why you don't want to do this step in your house.
Keep applying the Crisco until the pan cools to the point of no longer smoking then use a paper towel to remove any excess oil.
You will end up with a perfectly seasoned pan!
I've never heard of this. I'm going to give it a try next time I need to season. Thanks Ice.
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I agree with the self cleaning oven. Comes out looking brand new!! My Griswald is better than any of those new fandangled non stick pans, hands down. My vension and salmon don't touch anything but cast iron. Good luck!
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Cast iron would be fun to cook with as a culinary option, but damn this sounds so high maintenance.
It is not that bad. We have SS and Cast. Use the SS mostly for sauces all the cast is used on top and in the oven. Can't beat it as far as we are concerned. Just make sure it says made in USA not china or some other third world country...
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I agree with the self cleaning oven. Comes out looking brand new!! My Griswald is better than any of those new fandangled non stick pans, hands down. My vension and salmon don't touch anything but cast iron. Good luck!
I have 2 #8's and a griddle (like a fry pan, no edge) put them in a 550* oven until they looked grey, let them cool, oiled them up and put in 200* oven overnight.
Now I just wipe them out, some times I put them in the oven if they get "sticky" spots, a couple hours @ 200* wipe with an oiled cloth :IBCOOL:
Griswold's rock !
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Cast iron would be fun to cook with as a culinary option, but damn this sounds so high maintenance.
It is not that bad. We have SS and Cast. Use the SS mostly for sauces all the cast is used on top and in the oven. Can't beat it as far as we are concerned. Just make sure it says made in USA not china or some other third world country...
Also, (at least how I was taught) you let the pan heat up until the handle is hot, then it is ready.
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Just for entertainment I looked this up.
:dunno: I guess I been doing it wrong, but oh well...
http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/ (http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/)
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Just for entertainment I looked this up.
:dunno: I guess I been doing it wrong, but oh well...
http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/ (http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/)
Very interesting. I use olive oil 90% of the time and when we have bacon I try to save the dripping to use on the pans as it seems to give the best finish for later use, but this throws a whole new twist into the formula.
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Cast iron would be fun to cook with as a culinary option, but damn this sounds so high maintenance.
It is not that bad. We have SS and Cast. Use the SS mostly for sauces all the cast is used on top and in the oven. Can't beat it as far as we are concerned. Just make sure it says made in USA not china or some other third world country...
I typically buy foreign stuff to support free trade, but lately I've been inclined to think of product saftey and what not. Sure wouldn't want lead leeching out of a Chinese iron pan.
I had tortillas made on a cast iron skillet at my last hunting camp and boy do they sure taste better than those made on stainless steel! :drool:
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Your not likely to have lead leaching out of the iron, but where do you think all the steel from Chernobyl went? US mills are pretty carefull about radiation contamination, but china.... Not so much. It think there goal was dilution..
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Just for entertainment I looked this up.
:dunno: I guess I been doing it wrong, but oh well...
http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/ (http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/)
Interesting read.
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Just for entertainment I looked this up.
:dunno: I guess I been doing it wrong, but oh well...
http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/ (http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/)
I have a 10 in, and a 12 in cast iron skillets, both in need of proper seasoning. one was about 5 yrs old, the other about 30. (neither are collectables) I have only washed with water, but they were in sad shape, sticky and couldn't fry chicken without losing the skin. I thought what the heck----- I'll strip 'em and start over.
I thought about electrolysis, but didn't have anything handy for the anode. So I used the oven cleaner method. I sprayed them both, put them in a plastic garbage bag and checked in 24 hrs. a bunch of "gunk" came off, but still needed more treatment. (my wife bought the low odor "weak stuff"). I scrubbed in a sink with warm water and a brillo pad, until any loose debris was removed. Then dried and reapplied more "weak" oven cleaner. I repeated this for 5 nights. (Hint---Use extra strength). Finally all the years of build up was gone and I was down to bare metal. Then I took 320 wet/dry sandpaper and gave it a good scrub in the water.
I went to the store to get flax seed oil. $20 for 16 oz (organic) Don't know if this was really necessary, but i'm in it now (what's left will get eaten on my cheerios).
I soaked the now clean skillets in water, and washed w/ dishsoap and rinsed again. Put them in a 200 oven to dry. "Man do they rust fast". I used an old T-shirt, but paper towels would be fine. I rubbed each with the flax oil, covering every nook and cranny. Wiped with dry cloth so there were no pools/drips.
Place in oven that was resting at 200, cranked it up to 525 when it came to temp I set the timer for 1 hr. let cool to 200 then repeated. I am on the 3rd cycle as we speak. They are slick when they come out. I have the oven fan running as it stinks up the house a bit. For the next treatment using a hot pad to hold, I re-coat with the flax oil, and wipe off the excess. It is tempting to let more remain for a build up, but I am trying to be patient.
(Don't want to see the electric bill next month) LoL.
I think I will be keeping my eyes open at garage/estate sales for old cast iron. It is definately worth the effort.
In the future I may try electrolysis just for the heck of it.
I will update after 6 or 8 cycles of seasoning.
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After 5 rounds of oiling and baking, the surface of these looked outstanding. Nice patina, kina bronze colored. They will blacken with more use.
I put the #10 to use this morning. I thought frying an egg would be a good test. A small amt of canola oil and heat added the egg, looked beautiful until I tried to turn it...... ugggg that sumbitch was adhered like glue. All that effort. What the heck. I am at a loss. This seemed like it would be perfect.
I have the other skillet to try. Maybe I will be frying bacon in it for awhile before I try a fried egg.
If any of you try this method of stripping and coating with flax seed oil let me know.
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Did you add the oil before heating? If so, try it the other way around.
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Did you add the oil before heating? If so, try it the other way around.
yes
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PS: Do not spray the oven cleaner anywhere near your wifes non-stick baking sheet.... Just saying.
She now has an aluminum baking sheet.... she just doesn't know it yet :bdid:
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Oh..........that is bad.
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Once you have seasoned a cast iron pan it needs to be used several times before it will start to be a non-stick surface. That nice patina it has from seasoning needs heat to turn it into carbon. The more you use it the better it will work!
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PS: Do not spray the oven cleaner anywhere near your wifes non-stick baking sheet.... Just saying.
She now has an aluminum baking sheet.... she just doesn't know it yet :bdid:
PSS: Can't use oven cleaner on aluminum. I am ruining my wifes kitchen rapidly.
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After 5 rounds of oiling and baking, the surface of these looked outstanding. Nice patina, kina bronze colored. They will blacken with more use.
I put the #10 to use this morning. I thought frying an egg would be a good test. A small amt of canola oil and heat added the egg, looked beautiful until I tried to turn it...... ugggg that sumbitch was adhered like glue. All that effort. What the heck. I am at a loss. This seemed like it would be perfect.
I have the other skillet to try. Maybe I will be frying bacon in it for awhile before I try a fried egg.
If any of you try this method of stripping and coating with flax seed oil let me know.
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Haha. I'll try to pull it out of the trash before the garbage comes to show the carnage. LOL
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These 2 pics were after stripping and the seasoning process. I had heated them on the stove top a couple of times as well (with some crisco) . Not sure what the dark spots are. I have a gas cook top, maybe there are hotspots on the burner :dunno:. Kinda dissapointed after all the work, but will keep at it.
The other pics show what not to do!!!! The pan on the left was a very nice non-stick baking sheet. I had the pans on it when I sprayed the oven cleaner. It is now a stripped steel baking sheet (you can see some of the remnant nonstick in the corners. The Right pan was a nice plain aluminum cookie sheet. Had a bit of grunge that i thought I could remove easily. (Didn't read the label on the oven cleaner). Not for use on aluminum.
It is toast.
Wife was pissed, but not surprised, as I tend to F a lot of things up.
If I find a good yard sale cast iron in poor shape I will photo document from the beginning of the process.
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Pretty sure the dark spots on those skillets are the "good" parts as far as doing it well. My stuff was the grey color and I used the bacon fat technique. Cooked it a couple of hours in the oven and then turned off the oven and let them sit til I needed them or the oven. Instant nonstickines and works until I leave something in them too long and have to scrub. Then I just do touchups. After every use I just get the pan really hot on the stove and rub some veggie oil on it. Haven't had any issues doing it the old fashioned way. :dunno:
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Yea.... I think I may have overdone it a bit. Good learning experience. The metal is in good shape regardless, so could always strip and get a do-over.
I have some venison sausage cooking as we speak, and it is not sticking at all.
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You CAN NOT accidentally hurt cast iron so don't worry about it. People tend to try to want to do it the "best" and make the finish the "longest lasting." It's cast iron. Abuse the crap out of it and then fix it. OLD SCHOOL! Kinda like the old cars and trucks. They break more often but they're way easier to fix.
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The most coom way people abuse cast iron is by putting cold water in a hot pan.
Cold water in a hot pan can warp or even crack the iron!
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washing cast iron with detergent, in the dishwasher, or with sos pads will cause it to rust, this isn't technically ruining it but people nowdays have an aversion to eating foods cooked with extra iron and would rather take some weird fda approved iron supplement (that is just rust with another name) unless you use your cast iron as a target it is really tough to "ruin" you can always blast it down in a worst case....and if any of you have rusty cast iron you feel is ruined please please give it to me instead of tossing in trash, I am not afraid of rust and like bringing back old metal (and leather) from the brink.
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ide sand blast it then season and go! but the one i found in the ground i now use as my melting pan for melting down lead to pour in molds
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washing cast iron with detergent, in the dishwasher, or with sos pads will cause it to rust, this isn't technically ruining it but people nowdays have an aversion to eating foods cooked with extra iron and would rather take some weird fda approved iron supplement (that is just rust with another name) unless you use your cast iron as a target it is really tough to "ruin" you can always blast it down in a worst case....and if any of you have rusty cast iron you feel is ruined please please give it to me instead of tossing in trash, I am not afraid of rust and like bringing back old metal (and leather) from the brink.
I think I could get into restoring some of the classics. I'm gonna keep my eyes peeled at garage/yard sales for some Griswold pieces
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here is a good link, haven't tried it yet... http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/how-to-clean-and-season-old-ru-151535 (http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/how-to-clean-and-season-old-ru-151535)
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I'm not sure about the rust. Don't think the oven cleaner will help with that, but it is great for the "stuck on" stuff. I'm not opposed to a little toxin as it is getting rinsed and cooked out I would think. After a thorough cleaning these things rust FAST, so better get some oil on them quickly after cleaning.
I was frustrated after my deep clean, but it is getting better and better after each usage.
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Had a buddy that would sand blast old cast iron pans he found in garage sales etc.... then re-season and use the... worked like a charm... biggest issue is getting them hot enough to "absorb" the grease during the seasoning process.. If you have to use welding gloves AND a hot pad, you about got it right... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
OH, and lard/bacon grease works better than Crisco imho.. :twocents:
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Had a buddy that would sand blast old cast iron pans he found in garage sales etc.... then re-season and use the... worked like a charm... biggest issue is getting them hot enough to "absorb" the grease during the seasoning process.. If you have to use welding gloves AND a hot pad, you about got it right... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
OH, and lard/bacon grease works better than Crisco imho.. :twocents:
i have done the same thing and used a wood fire in my smoker with bacon fat re-season. best fry pans ever!
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Had a buddy that would sand blast old cast iron pans he found in garage sales etc.... then re-season and use the... worked like a charm... biggest issue is getting them hot enough to "absorb" the grease during the seasoning process.. If you have to use welding gloves AND a hot pad, you about got it right... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
OH, and lard/bacon grease works better than Crisco imho.. :twocents:
My dad left our box of cast iron pots and pans in the back of the truck after hunting season for awhile and when we realized what had happened they where covered in large flakes of rust we sand blasted them down found a old stove on craigslist and filled them all with bacon grease let them bake for hours cleaned them out and reapplied more grease now they work great except the dutch oven that cracked but i was able to braze that one up and it still works like a champ had to season the crap out of that one.
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Hey, Quadrafire.........do you think it would be possible to season the cast iron pan in your Big Green Egg? Seems like it would be better than doing it inside the house?
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use heavy coarse grain or kosher salt and scrub with that to get any stuff off the bottom and re season. works great if ya got some stubborn burnt of crud on teh bottom . i never wash mine in soap or the dishwasher,
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If its been seasoned and in use i just clean up with a.metal spatula and wipe it out with a paper towel. Good to go. :tup:
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Hey, Quadrafire.........do you think it would be possible to season the cast iron pan in your Big Green Egg? Seems like it would be better than doing it inside the house?
I have a great big Dutch Oven, and I put mine in the Webber BBQ for seasoning. Works great!
Also, last time I seasoned it, I tried the high temp Pam Grilling spray, works really good too.
ET
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Hey, Quadrafire.........do you think it would be possible to season the cast iron pan in your Big Green Egg? Seems like it would be better than doing it inside the house?
That is a great idea. I definately will next time I do one.
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If you have the time and place to do this.
http://www.wag-society.org/Electrolysis/electros_1.php (http://www.wag-society.org/Electrolysis/electros_1.php)
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I have been cooking on my "rehab" cast iron from the previous post. Tonight I am cooking potatoe pancakes. They are not sticking at all :rockin: I'm stoked
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So my skillet got some rust on it sitting in the garage along with the wtgriddle. I remember a post on here some where about sanding your cast iron before you re season it. I was having some trouble with eggs and such sticking to the pan so i thought id give it a try.
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I think you should just send them all to me. I'll give them a very nice home.
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Here are a few pics. Some sanded some cooking.
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My youngest wanted to try out some duck and goose toung on the cast iron. Never had it before so what the heck.
In clockwise fashion starting at the 12 o clock. Within, spoonbill, snow goose, cackler goose.
Widgon was ok but small spoonbill the best and neatest. Snow goose very bony, and cracker was fine. Apparently there are bones that run down the sides of a toung. The spoonbill had the best amount and flavor of Meat. Snow goose had the most bone and least flavor.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/be54fd899214638da890e550b26f9cb8.jpg)
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Well that is a different recipe for sure!