Hunting Washington Forum
		Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: ffhoofer on September 30, 2011, 11:28:17 AM
		
			
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				so, i go out scouting this morning and see a nice bull. i do my homework and called the property owner who gives me permission but lives far away so i cant get it in writing. he tells me to call him if somebody gives me trouble. so after i get of the phone i drive out there and knock on the neighbors door to let them know i'll be hunting in the next couple of days. the neighbor is pissed!!!! she's yelling at me through the door and says she's going to call the cops at the first sound of a shot. she writes down my plate number as i'm leaving. can i get in trouble if i hunt out there?
			
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				 :) I'd call the local law and hunt it. Give them the guys phone number.
 Carl
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				Screw her, if anything I would call the owner back and let him know what happened with the neighbor even though you were trying to be courteous to her. Then I would probably drop a call and explain the situation with the local Police Department in case she does call; be sure to let them know you have permission to hunt on the property.
			
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				 :) I'd call the local law and hunt it. Give them the guys phone number.
 Carl
 
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				Maybe call the local gamey, too.
			
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				Can you get it in writting over email?  :dunno:
			
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				so, i go out scouting this morning and see a nice bull. i do my homework and called the property owner who gives me permission but lives far away so i cant get it in writing. he tells me to call him if somebody gives me trouble. so after i get of the phone i drive out there and knock on the neighbors door to let them know i'll be hunting in the next couple of days. the neighbor is pissed!!!! she's yelling at me through the door and says she's going to call the cops at the first sound of a shot. she writes down my plate number as i'm leaving. can i get in trouble if i hunt out there?
 
 
 The USPS delivers mail 6 days a week.   :dunno:
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				Can you get it in writting over email?  :dunno:
 
 
 i thought about that but there was a language barrier and i had a hard enough time explaining what i wanted to do.
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				if its out of city limits and your not on her land she has no authority. some people dont like the idea of hunting and shooting near there land thats understandable due to trespassing or whatever. call the police warn them about it explain the situation to them and make it really clear to them you wont be on her property. inform the guy to of what happen. it was very nice of you though to warn the lady  :tup:. 
			
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				Can you get it in writting over email?  :dunno:
 
 
 i thought about that but there was a language barrier and i had a hard enough time explaining what i wanted to do.
 
 
 HMmm............... Just make sure he sticks to his story of letting you hunt when the gameys call him to confirm.
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				The only trouble I would see you getting in would be if you shoot towards any houses that are outside the property lines. The neighbors have no say in what happens on neighbors property. You did a very nice thing to go to her and tell her that you will be hunting the neighbors property. If you do get something and police do come you just call the landowner and show them your tags. 
			
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				just goes to show one of the many reasons people stop being nice. :twocents:
			
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				yeah, i don't know if i should try and talk to the other neighbors or not. i know the local gamey so i'll stop by his house.
			
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				I would leave the gut pile right by the property line :twocents:
			
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				The language barrier comment has me concerned, otherwise I wouldn't worry about the neighbor. Sounds like you need to make the call, if you talked to the landowner and he has given you permission, and will tell the same story if he gets a phone call from a law enforcement officer, I can't see how you would get into any sort of trouble. 
 
 Don't let the bull die on the neighbors property, she wouldn't be happy.
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				Can you get it in writting over email?  :dunno:
 
 Or fax, or call the property owner back and record the phone call...
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				I would definatly be doing one of the things above.  I also am kind of concerned with the language barrier comment especially if for some reason he says he did not understand you.  I would just make sure to protect yourself!
			
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				There is no issue here. You have permission to hunt so go hunt. Screw the neighbor. No need to even tell them why you are there.
			
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				just got off the phone with the sheriff's office. they told me to call them before i hunt and they'll log it into their dispatch in case they get called. they appreciated me being pro-active and said there's nothing she can do. 
			
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				Aim for the shoulder and shoot straight. 
 
 Once your animal is down cut off the head, skin it, put it on, and run up and down the fence line mewing like you are in agony.
 
 You know what, skip that second part. Might be in bad taste.
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				Aim for the shoulder and shoot straight. 
 
 Once your animal is down cut off the head, skin it, put it on, and run up and down the fence line mewing like you are in agony.
 
 You know what, skip that second part. Might be in bad taste.
 
 
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				You might record the conversation next time you ask for permission.  But I think you are covered. 
			
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				You might record the conversation next time you ask for permission.  But I think you are covered.
 
 
 yeah, that's a good idea. just didn't realize how much of a hassel it would be.
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				Wouldn't really matter what the neighbor had to say anyways the guy would have to be willing to press charges for trespassing it's legal to hunt there they couldn't take the elk 
			
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				 I wouldn't call anyone. This is business between you and the land owner. The police, the game warden or the neighbor have no business in this. As long as you have a valid tag.
			
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				Just hunt it, you already have permission. If anything happens from it, then worry about it. Odds are she is trying to scare you.
			
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				Shoot the bull and then while leaving the land stop in  front of her house and check all your tires  :chuckle: F-in tree huggers
			
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				Hell... drop her off an elk steak and she will get over it   :yeah: :chuckle:
			
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				FFhoofer, just wondering, I really believe I know who you are talking about..  Is this down in SW Washington???  If so let me know and I will tell you a story that happened 7 years ago where she jumped right in front of my gun as I was aiming at a bull!!!!  BTW the local authorities got in volved after that one.
			
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				no, this isn't by sw washington. apparently this state is infested with tree huggers. :chuckle:
			
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				FFhoofer, just wondering, I really believe I know who you are talking about..  Is this down in SW Washington???  If so let me know and I will tell you a story that happened 7 years ago where she jumped right in front of my gun as I was aiming at a bull!!!!  BTW the local authorities got in volved after that one.
 
 I would still kinda like to hear the story.  :dunno:
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				FFhoofer, just wondering, I really believe I know who you are talking about..  Is this down in SW Washington???  If so let me know and I will tell you a story that happened 7 years ago where she jumped right in front of my gun as I was aiming at a bull!!!!  BTW the local authorities got in volved after that one.
 
 I would still kinda like to hear the story.  :dunno:
 
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				Ok, but it will be the short one.
 
 My hunting group was on a well traveled road that leads to some decent hunting ground in SW Washington when we stopped to look at the herd of elk on this piece of private property.  That morning there was a VERY nice bull in with the herd, so we pulled over on the shoulder of the road to take a good look at him.  The owner of the property stepped out onto the deck of there house and started to bugle and use some other calls.  So we started to call back to her as a joke.  Well the lead cow didn't like that at all and started to move the group toward the fence line.  I went back to my truck grabbed my rifle and some ammo and walked down the road past the private property fence line and went onto the public land that was next to it.  I get far enough off the road load my rifle and sit and wait.  I'm not sure how long it was, but it wasn't very long and the herd started to jump the fence onto public land.  I shoulder my rifle, jack one into the tube and watch the herd jump over waiting for the bull.  He jumps over, I put the scope on him and started to whistle to get him to stop.  I am jacked up excited and was focused on getting my 1st bull!  I am looking getting ready to fire, when my field of view is PINK!  I pull my head up and there is this crazy bit*h screaming "Don't shoot my elk!" She created enough time for them to get into the timber so I turn my attention to her and start screaming at her about how close she came to getting shot!!!  After a moment of VERY heated yelling, we left went straight to the Highway Patrols office in town and reported what happened.  Later that day I got a call from the WDFW and met him at the site and gave my statement.  I guess this family that owns that property is very well known as a problem when it comes to the elk.  I believe a ticket for interfering with a lawful hunt was issued.  But I often stop and wonder would have changed in my life and how close I came to shooting someone.
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				You sure you had the right property owner on the other end of the phone?
			
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				And if that neighbor gives you any *censored* what so ever if she tries to ban on pots and pans to scare the animals or comes out and bothers you call the cops on her for hunter haressment and have her ass wrote up for it! serious about that.  The damn neighbors this days they don't have any say if you can hunt or not!  Way to try to be nice!  To bad we got too many tree huggers in this damn state!
			
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				Aim for the shoulder and shoot straight. 
 
 Once your animal is down cut off the head, skin it, put it on, and run up and down the fence line mewing like you are in agony.
 
 You know what, skip that second part. Might be in bad taste.
 
 
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 Dump the gut pile as close to her property as you can. and then tell her you'll be back to hunt coyotes over it at sunrise--because there's nothing like having a thermos of coffee and some quiet time with God in the morning while waiting to kill something.  :tung:
 
 
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				Make the proper notifications to the people who can write you tickets, and then shoot straight  :chuckle:
			
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				(Wash. Rev. Code § 77.16.340 (1996))
 
 WEST'S REVISED CODE OF WASHINGTON ANNOTATED TITLE 77. GAME AND GAME FISH CHAPTER 77.16.PROHIBITEDACTSAND PENALTIES 77.16.340. Obstructing the taking of fish or wildlife--Penalty--Defenses (1) A person commits thecrime ofobstructingthe taking of fish or wildlife if the person:
 
 (a) Harasses, drives, or disturbs fish or wildlife with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof; or (b) Harasses, interfereswith,or intimidates anindividual engaged in the lawful taking of fish or wildlife or lawful predator control.
 
 (2) Violation of this section is a gross misdemeanor under RCW 77.21.010.
 
 (3) It is a defense to any prosecution under subsection(1) ofthis section,ifthe person charged:
 
 (a) Interferes with any person engaged in huntingoutside legally established hunting seasons; (b) Is preventing or attemptingtopreventtheinjuryor killingofa protected wildlife species, as defined by this title;
 
 (c) Is preventing or attemptingtopreventunauthorized trespass on private property; or
 
 (d) Is defending oneselfor another personfrombodilyharmor property damage by a person attemptingtopreventhuntingina legally established hunting season.
 
 Enacted by Laws 1988, ch. 265, § 1, eff. July 1, 1988.
 
 
 
 
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