Post by: uplandlabs on July 01, 2008, 09:55:49 PM
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Post by: scudmaster on July 01, 2008, 10:33:15 PM
Post by: uplandlabs on July 01, 2008, 10:34:03 PM
Post by: scudmaster on July 01, 2008, 10:41:08 PM
Sorry to hear about your pup. Good luck getting him back into shape.
Scud
Post by: follow maggie on July 03, 2008, 09:13:23 PM
If anyone's looking for a good trainer, I can recommend Upland Dogs in Ellensburg. I just got my lab pup back after she spent a month there. She was well fed, was worked 5-6 days a week, obviously had a good time judging by her interaction with the trainer and gets after the pheasants. In fact, one of the pheasants we hunted, I didn't have to shoot. She chased it down and brought back to us. She is now a good started gun dog.
Hope you can salvage the pup. Not many things are more aggravating than that.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on July 15, 2008, 03:44:49 PM
I train on the Carlson's grounds almost every night. I do not have any affiliation to the kennel or the trainer in question although, I do know that the kennels are very well maintained and clean. I regularly talk with the retriever trainer and have chatted with him numerous times while walking through the kennels. He is very well respected and a very even mannered trainer. I would not hesitate to leave my dog in the kennels or for training. I have also watched him progress through the hunt test season with a truck load of dogs other trainers probably would turn down.
There are two separate trainers operating out of Carlson's. The trainers board the dogs that they are training. They are not mixed with the K-9 Country Club boarding.
A training partner of mine also managed the kennel for many years working directly with Bert Carlson. Bert and his son Larrance are at the kennels on a regular basis and wouldn't allow any substandard conditions. Bert's field trial lab breeding stock lives in the same kennel.
Feel free to PM me if, you would like any recommendations on trainers. Happy
Post by: skynyr on August 21, 2008, 10:07:29 PM
I took my german shorthair in for a session once and never went back again. His first lesson was "whoa training" he did this by looping a rope around the dog's hind quarters and when he pulled on the rope it cinched up around his nards to get his attention. Okay simple enough. But when he pulled on the rope to cinch it up while giving the 'whoa' command, my dog started yelping and was obviously in a lot of pain, he responded by saying my dog was being dramatic because he didn't want to listen due to the fact that I was standing there and he was trying to get his way by whimpering and yelping.... So giving him the benefit of the doubt (because he was the "professional" after all) I let him continue with the lesson. He eventually whoa'd on command but not without resistance and he was shaking something fierce. I'd never seen my dog act like this before and was baffled why he would be reacting like this if he wasn't in pain. Later when it was time to go home, I loaded up the dog and checked out his underside. It was obvious now why he was yelping. He was all welted up!!!! My dog's skin was getting caught in the rope's loop. Dude was :liar: After that experience I continued training the dog myself and he does what I need him to do... without the welts. All the moron could say is "oops, that usually doesn't happen" ....
wasn't impressed >:(
Post by: Shannon on August 22, 2008, 09:04:30 PM
Post by: skynyr on August 24, 2008, 10:44:46 AM
I don't know the guy in Acme but that is a pretty common method of getting a dogs attention on Whoa training. Normally does not do anything but annoy the dog. I have used it in the past with no bad affects.
I understand using that method, I'll probably use that method on my next dog. But, I would try to be a lot more careful than he was though. :)
Post by: JBR on August 28, 2008, 11:23:14 AM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on August 29, 2008, 12:00:17 PM
Andy Fontenot was leasing kennels/grounds at Carlsons(where Raging River leases) training retrievers. He has moved his kennel to Winlock, Wa./no longer at Carlsons/Raging River.
I don't know anything about Jim. Haven't ever seen him working a dog. But, I am usually at Carlsons training in the evenings.
Hap
Post by: Skyvalhunter on August 29, 2008, 12:08:05 PM