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Title: 7mm or .300?
Post by: longrangekiller on October 10, 2011, 06:49:57 PM
just woundering what u all think
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: ELKBURGER on October 10, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
Love the .300. So many 30 cal reload options for it.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: predator guy on October 10, 2011, 06:59:59 PM
There are many options on the 7mm, which one? STW,REMINGTON MAG, WEATHERBY MAG, TCU, O8, ULTRA? Same goes for the .300.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: longrangekiller on October 10, 2011, 07:00:29 PM
Love the .300. So many 30 cal reload options for it.

i shoot a 7mm right now but have been looking into a .300 RUM   :chuckle:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: longrangekiller on October 10, 2011, 07:02:22 PM
There are many options on the 7mm, which one? STW,REMINGTON MAG, WEATHERBY MAG, TCU, O8, ULTRA? Same goes for the .300.

i changed it so theres no question about that again hahaha i was just asking in genral  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Tinner on October 10, 2011, 07:06:23 PM
300 WM Great all around rifle for anything here in the State.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: 6x6in6 on October 10, 2011, 07:11:41 PM
7mmRM  Own two.  Wouldn't trade either one for a 300 WM.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: predator guy on October 10, 2011, 07:19:16 PM
There are many options on the 7mm, which one? STW,REMINGTON MAG, WEATHERBY MAG, TCU, O8, ULTRA? Same goes for the .300.

i changed it so theres no question about that again hahaha i was just asking in genral  :chuckle:
I thought so but just wanted to be sure. For me personally I love the 7mm Rem. Mag. But that's just me.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: scottfrick on October 10, 2011, 07:30:05 PM
I have a remington 7mm stw and a remington 300 rum. Both guns are fantastic!!! the stw is topped with a leupold 3x9 and the 300 ultra mag is topped off with a swavorski 4x12x50. i'll be hunting with my 300 this deer season. At 100 yrds i'm shotting 3/16 groups. Both guns shoot re-loads and i cant be happier. Deer season now just needs to get here:)
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Scott on October 10, 2011, 07:34:15 PM
7mmRM  Own two.  Wouldn't trade either one for a 300 WM.
  I'm right there with ya! 
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Dhoey07 on October 10, 2011, 09:33:47 PM
My dad has a 7mm mag bdl and I have a weatherby 300 win mag and have shot animals with them both. Personally I don't think you could go wrong with either  :tup:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: bobcat on October 10, 2011, 09:41:48 PM
There's very little difference. The main difference that I see is with the smaller 7mm caliber, recoil is less. With a 30 caliber, recoil is going to be more, simply because of the heavier bullet. Ballistics are virtually identical if using comparable bullets.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Snowman on October 10, 2011, 09:43:11 PM
I Have shot both. I own a 7mm Rem Mag and I am very happy with it. I will stick with my 7mm till the day I die  :)
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: huntnphool on October 10, 2011, 09:43:43 PM
 I have a couple of each and prefer the 7mm. I am currently building another 7mm for long distance shooting, Ruger action, Hart 26", 10/1 twist, 4.5 contour, and 1.250 fluted barrel, Jewell trigger shooting 168gr. Bergers or Barnes TSX. With a nightforce 5.5-22x50 I should be able to hunt anything in this country out to 1200 yards. ;)
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: huntnphool on October 10, 2011, 09:45:53 PM
The main difference that I see is with the smaller 7mm caliber, recoil is less. With a 30 caliber, recoil is going to be more, simply because of the heavier bullet. Ballistics are virtually identical if using comparable bullets.

 7mm has a better BC. ;)
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: predator guy on October 10, 2011, 09:53:14 PM
The main difference that I see is with the smaller 7mm caliber, recoil is less. With a 30 caliber, recoil is going to be more, simply because of the heavier bullet. Ballistics are virtually identical if using comparable bullets.

 7mm has a better BC. ;)
:yeah:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: bobcat on October 10, 2011, 09:55:13 PM
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7mm has a better BC. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Yeah, maybe slightly, but you're really splitting hairs when you start comparing slight differences in BC's. Most people aren't looking for something that will shoot out to 1200 yards. You know that's almost 3/4 of a mile, right? Don't you think a good hunter should be able to get a half mile closer than that almost every time?
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: grundy53 on October 10, 2011, 10:08:32 PM
I have 2 .300 win mags. I love them both. This is like asking  Ford or Chevy. To each their own.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: grundy53 on October 10, 2011, 10:11:17 PM
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7mm has a better BC. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Yeah, maybe slightly, but you're really splitting hairs when you start comparing slight differences in BC's. Most people aren't looking for something that will shoot out to 1200 yards. You know that's almost 3/4 of a mile, right? Don't you think a good hunter should be able to get a half mile closer than that almost every time?
:yeah:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: huntnphool on October 10, 2011, 10:15:22 PM
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7mm has a better BC.

Yeah, maybe slightly, but you're really splitting hairs when you start comparing slight differences in BC's. Most people aren't looking for something that will shoot out to 1200 yards. You know that's almost 3/4 of a mile, right? Don't you think a good hunter should be able to get a half mile closer than that almost every time?

 True dat Bob, but with a username like "Longrangekiller" I thought it relevant. ;)
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: jyerxa on October 11, 2011, 03:22:00 PM
I've just had my 7mm for so long that I just can't leave home with out it.  ;)
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: wreckerman5357 on October 11, 2011, 09:45:47 PM
Niether, .270 Weatherby Magnum! In all seriousness, both are fine calibers but I would take the 7mm over the .300. The 7mm will do everything the .300 will with less recoil.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Huntboy on March 09, 2012, 11:17:49 AM
Looked at 7mm and all the 300's, pick up my new 300 RUM on Sat.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: JohnVH on March 09, 2012, 11:36:36 AM
depends how bad of a shot you are.  Worse of a shot the bigger the rifle you need. Unless you have to compensate for something, then go really big.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: grundy53 on March 09, 2012, 11:48:01 AM
depends how bad of a shot you are.  Worse of a shot the bigger the rifle you need. Unless you have to compensate for something, then go really big.
:liar:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: JohnVH on March 09, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
depends how bad of a shot you are.  Worse of a shot the bigger the rifle you need. Unless you have to compensate for something, then go really big.
:liar:
Facts. You must need a .50bmg I'm guessing lol
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: coachcw on March 09, 2012, 12:47:00 PM
The 7mm less wind drift aswell .
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Bofire on March 09, 2012, 12:48:46 PM
300 shoots a 180 like a 7mm shoots a 150, I like the heavier bullet.
Carl
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: JohnVH on March 09, 2012, 12:49:42 PM
300 shoots a 180 like a 7mm shoots a 150, I like the heavier bullet.
Carl

False, you can buy 180gr for the 7mm also.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Bofire on March 09, 2012, 12:51:20 PM
175 and 180 in 7mm mag is pathetic at best in my opinion, and I shot one for 20 years and killed alot of game with one. &mm performs best with 140 thru 160 my 2 cents. Also I did not say you could not get the bullet I made a generalized comparison of ballistics and trajectory.
Carl
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: coachcw on March 09, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
Let's not argue over c cups or d cups , there both good !
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: spookgus on March 09, 2012, 12:57:42 PM
This is a no brainer. The 300WM will consistently lift elk off the ground. The 7mmRM is only adequate for elk if your good with a follow up shot and have a team of experienced trackers. :chuckle:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on March 09, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
.300 Win Mag has more knockdown power (heavier bullet) if you can tolerate the increase in recoil.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Mike450r on March 09, 2012, 01:35:29 PM
They are both great.  It really is a preference thing.   Knockdown power is a myth.  The bullet only hits as hard as the rifle kicks.   Never had one knock me down yet.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: grundy53 on March 09, 2012, 01:40:28 PM
depends how bad of a shot you are.  Worse of a shot the bigger the rifle you need. Unless you have to compensate for something, then go really big.
:liar:
Facts. You must need a .50bmg I'm guessing lol

Actually I own quite a few rifles ranging from .17 hmr through .450 bushmaster. So I have little rifles and big rifles am I over compensating for something or not? I love all types of rifles just prefer the .300 win mag (I have 2) over the 7mm. By the way so do the snipers in our military. Are they over compensating too? I'll trust their judgement.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: marty on March 09, 2012, 01:45:02 PM
This is a no brainer. The 300WM will consistently lift elk off the ground. The 7mmRM is only adequate for elk if your good with a follow up shot and have a team of experienced trackers. :chuckle:

Ive shot several elk with both calibers never had my .300 lift elk off the ground! I now use my 7 for all my elk hunting and never had a problem killing elk!
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Jellymon on March 09, 2012, 02:14:46 PM
This is a no brainer. The 300WM will consistently lift elk off the ground. The 7mmRM is only adequate for elk if your good with a follow up shot and have a team of experienced trackers. :chuckle:

Lol! 30-06 is more than enough, I think 7mm is just fine! Especially with today's bullets. Look on utube, there is a video of a doe getting shot behind the shoulder with a 50 bmg and it ran over 100 yds! A big caliber doesn't mean the animal will drop.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: spookgus on March 09, 2012, 02:15:35 PM
This is a no brainer. The 300WM will consistently lift elk off the ground. The 7mmRM is only adequate for elk if your good with a follow up shot and have a team of experienced trackers. :chuckle:

Ive shot several elk with both calibers never had my .300 lift elk off the ground! I now use my 7 for all my elk hunting and never had a problem killing elk!
I know, I was just giving the 7mm guys a jab. I've killed elk with my 300, but my best bull yet died just as fast with one shot from my .280 (7mm Express)
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: hillbillyhunting on March 09, 2012, 02:20:53 PM
I love my 7mm rem, but I think I would trade for a 7mm weatherby.  Dont see any reason for going away from 7mm.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 09, 2012, 02:26:38 PM
I love my 7mm rem, but I think I would trade for a 7mm weatherby.  Dont see any reason for going away from 7mm.
If you love it, STW it.   :tup:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 09, 2012, 03:00:53 PM
Both good guns.  I have two of the .7mm and one of the .300 Win Mag.  My next custom gun going into Benchmark will be the .7mm.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Kowsrule30 on March 09, 2012, 03:51:02 PM
7mm Wetherby in my case.... Not one 300....  :tup: 
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on March 09, 2012, 07:57:58 PM
I have both, the 300 will move more mass faster than the 7mm, but the BC is less.   out to 600 yds I'd prefer the 300. ;)
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: TwoSixFourWins on March 09, 2012, 11:56:31 PM
Where is the box for 264 Win Mag? :tup:
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: whitetailslyr on March 10, 2012, 11:15:18 AM
7mm for sure.... that's my bias opinion. Mine kills the deer quite nicely.
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: MuleySniper on March 10, 2012, 11:22:29 AM
Love my .300 wby. Kicks pretty good with anything over 180. Its a ruger #1 though so its already a heavy gun. Id like to try a 7mm. Sportsmans had a pretty nice Tikka SS/comp with a fluted barrel in 7mm for like $649 I think. I was definitely tempted. Make a great all around rifle that you wouldn't worry about not trying to scratch or ding.
MS
Title: Re: 7mm or .300?
Post by: MDGrand on March 10, 2012, 12:03:14 PM
The main difference that I see is with the smaller 7mm caliber, recoil is less. With a 30 caliber, recoil is going to be more, simply because of the heavier bullet. Ballistics are virtually identical if using comparable bullets.

 7mm has a better BC. ;)

Well.. when comparing HEAVY 7mm bullets to HEAVY 30 caliber bullets the BC race is pretty close!

Especially in the case of using Berger Bullets..

If you compare a ballistics chart of a 7mm Rem Mag shooting a 168 Grain Berger shot at 3050 FPS vs a 300 RUM shooting a 210 grain Berger shot at 3050 FPS... the velocity at 1000 yards is almost identical. What is different though is the ENERGY at 1000 yards... the 30 cal from a 300 RUM has over 300 lbs more lbs of energy.

Personally, I have NEVER shot a 300 RUM or 7mm Rem Mag that were not almost identical in recoil.. so I vote for the 300 RUM.

But hell.. at the end of the day both are awesome. So.. pick a favorite I guess :)
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