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Title: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: demontang on July 06, 2008, 11:30:34 AM
While I just got back from coyote hunting a saw my buck that I have been watching for the last 2 years. I need some advice on how to keep track of him around hunting season without going in and kicking him out of the area.
He's in unit 340 and I can't real get a good look at the area with out walking in, he stay's in some realy steep draws off a main canyon. I have tried to glass it but I can see the bottoms. I almost had a chance him last year but my budy went in the day before opening day and kicked him up :bash:anyone got any ideas??

heres the terrain his in
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi175.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw131%2Fdemontang%2F100_1794.jpg&hash=78079477d4f4f94ea1a3d355ffeae51517deca0c)
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: rougheye on July 06, 2008, 11:32:56 AM
I think i could help but i would have to see the area first   :chuckle:
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: demontang on July 06, 2008, 11:34:17 AM
I just put a pic up of the terrain but its not where he is :tung:
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: huntnphool on July 06, 2008, 11:34:45 AM
About all you can do is keep going back and viewing him from a distance and hope your buddy stays out of there. Either that or break your wallet out and buy up all surrounding access.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: Head-shot on July 06, 2008, 11:37:39 AM
I could go in there and get him, that way you would't have to worry about your buddy wrecking your hunt!  :chuckle:
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: rougheye on July 06, 2008, 11:38:30 AM
that is some neat lookin stuff . i think i know where that is , tough to get those in there . they so you coming for a mile away.   Just pattern him and hope .
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: wastickslinger on July 06, 2008, 11:39:16 AM
I like to sit up high and watch from a long ways away with my spotting scope. The deer never know I am there for 2 months.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: demontang on July 06, 2008, 12:48:20 PM
I cant see in to the draw from anywhere but with in 500yards away. He is a very smart deer considering he's still alive being as big as he is. I will have to try and get some pics of him. I tried today but he saw me moving to get the camera and split. :dunno:
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: huntnphool on July 06, 2008, 01:14:00 PM
I will have to try and get some pics of him.

Probably not a good idea unless you just want him in your photo collection. Chances are you will blow him out. You might try getting a pick through your spotter but thats about as close as I would go myself.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: tlbradford on July 06, 2008, 01:17:13 PM
If you know he is usually in that draw, stay out of there.  The more you bump him, the better chance he will relocate.  If you can circle around and come up over the top of the highest point in the draw you can lay down and glass everything and still see the bottom  Going in the direction that you took your picture would be hard without spooking him.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: boneaddict on July 06, 2008, 01:18:15 PM
I'd get a new buddy.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: boneaddict on July 06, 2008, 01:22:39 PM
You have to leave him alone.  You have one shot and your prsence could easily blow it.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: rougheye on July 06, 2008, 01:28:37 PM
You have to leave him alone.  You have one shot and your prsence could easily blow it.
                                                                                                                  yea , what he said, good time to go find another one.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: bankwalker on July 06, 2008, 01:34:28 PM
You have to leave him alone.  You have one shot and your prsence could easily blow it.

yeah chances are if you have been watching him for the last 2 years he will almost certainly be there again this hunting season. just wait till opening day to head in that area. take is slow and watch for him.
if he busts out just turn around and leave the area. give it a few days for him to get back into his routine and give it another try.

unless you are hunting higher country where the deer migrate, they will usually stay within a few little canyons. and in country like that there isnt much for them to hide in besides sage and draws so they will bust out very easily.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: demontang on July 06, 2008, 02:12:12 PM
I went in to see if he made it though last year and the winter. I guess that I will just keep an eye on the area from a distance. Every time I see him I'm with in 150-500yards so if he stays there tell season I hope he will be hanging on the wall.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: wastickslinger on July 06, 2008, 04:19:17 PM
I agree with the rest of the crew. If you know where he is, I would leave him be unless you can see him from like a mile. I know the deer I hunt get bumped once and it is game over. I should be directing my post to myself as well. I am the worst at leaving deer alone. It is so hard knowing right where he is and keeping yourself at a safe distance in pre season. I am still working on my patience myself.

Good luck. Hope you get him.

Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: demontang on July 06, 2008, 05:50:43 PM
I have found another nice buck too, but he is always on privet ground after the first day. I hope that one of them messes up this year.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: luvtohnt on July 06, 2008, 07:46:11 PM
I think I know exactly where that picture was taken and I know three other groups of people who possibly chase the same deer you are refering to. Personally I would very carefully bump him will the season is still far away learn his escape routes so when the season comes and you bump him you may be able to predict the way he will get away. With the amount of pressure in that area it may be benificial to find his escape route and just get to it  long before daylight and let the others push him right into your lap. I use this technique every year where I hunt. It always works, you just have to learn the area really well and learn not to push to hard in the pre-season.

Brandon
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: demontang on July 06, 2008, 07:59:54 PM
I know alot of the escape routes but it all depends on which direction hes bump from. If I shot my gun alot I could probly get him at long range (498yd) if he was bumped the other way. Thanks for the Idea
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: Buschingc on July 09, 2008, 08:03:07 AM
What you should do..... Take a ben of apples down there.... ;) That should keep him in the area! Im just kidding..
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: demontang on July 09, 2008, 10:39:26 AM
That would be a long way to pack a bin of apples, the warden would be waiting for me by then :nono:
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: wastickslinger on July 09, 2008, 10:41:24 AM
One backpack at a time.  :chuckle:
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: mossback91 on July 09, 2008, 11:19:12 AM
Actually it aint illegal to bait deer I dont think anyways.......not saying I would but I dont think it says anything about it being illegal in the regs I doubt they want ppl doing it though.
Title: RE: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: GEARHEAD on July 10, 2008, 07:59:21 PM
download the free version of googleearth.com.  get in there from the air, and check out possible points of entry. you can pan tilt and whatever. the mouse arrow will tell you your gps coordinates, that you can then use to download your way points. a great tool. don't try if dial up.
Title: Re: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: Gobble on July 10, 2008, 08:58:47 PM
FYI, It is NOT Illegal to bait deer or elk, Just bear and cougars. My dad called the game dept. and asked
Title: Re: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: demontang on July 10, 2008, 09:30:48 PM
I was about to call and ask tomorrow. I dont think baiting is fair chase though :twocents: I dont know if they would even come into bait either :dunno:.

I know the area hes in very well and he just seems to give me the slip some how. I have glassed it for days and I coyote hunt the area so I know where the beds are and where there normal feeding area's/water holes are, and most of the trails in and out of the area too.   Maybe the muzzleloaders are pushing him out before I get a shot at him :dunno:
Title: Re: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: bankwalker on July 10, 2008, 09:35:24 PM
that could be. if you are hunting modern firearm then there is a good chance archery and muzzleloader hunters could put enough pressure on him to get him out of the area. even if they arent exactly hunting that little area.
Title: Re: Mule deer strategy???
Post by: demontang on July 10, 2008, 09:46:46 PM
I might need to start going out and looking for an area that he would go to and hide. There is just so much land out there and privet land that he could escape too.
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