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Title: M1 Garand
Post by: jyerxa on November 22, 2011, 08:52:01 AM
I got a question that has bugged me for years.

The M1 Garand is known as a 30-06 used in Europe by the Army.

Who knew the Navy used .308 Winchester?

Did that mean the Marines used the .308 in the Pacific?
Title: Re: M1 Garand
Post by: h2ofowlr on November 22, 2011, 09:06:10 AM
Don't know.  I have my M1 chambered in .308 as it is the same cartridge as my M14.
Title: Re: M1 Garand
Post by: deerbandit on November 22, 2011, 09:32:52 AM
My understanding is that all M-1 Garands were made in 30-06.  The Navy had some of theirs converted to .308 after the war was over.  You can go to the CMP site and get one of these rifles Garand in 30-06 and get questions like this answered by people with a lot more information about this than me.
Title: Re: M1 Garand
Post by: hillbilli on November 22, 2011, 09:53:24 AM
Yes when the military went to .308 from 30-06, the navy still had a lot of garands in ships arsenals, and they converted them to .308..
Title: Re: M1 Garand
Post by: Special T on November 22, 2011, 12:54:23 PM
CMP
www.odcmp.com/

Surplus rifle forum
http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=53
Title: Re: M1 Garand
Post by: jyerxa on November 22, 2011, 02:36:59 PM
thanks all.

I sent an email this morning to CMP. I'll dig around on this other forum too. With all of the marines we have on here I thought it would be a no brainier for them and they would answer immediately.
Title: Re: M1 Garand
Post by: KillBilly on November 22, 2011, 03:10:17 PM
Garand's rifle was originally chambered for the .276 Pedersen cartridge, charged by means of 10-round clips.
The Springfield 1903 rifle reflected the era of high development in rifles operated manually which ended in 1936 with the introduction into the United States service of the Garand design, designated M1. This first of the successfulul gas-operated rifles of full infantry power outgunned enemy rifles in Europe and the Pacific in the ratio of 3 to 1. It was rugged, sure functioning, powerful, and accurate. The tiring bolt manipulation, so painfully learned by former generations of American soldiers, was no longer necessary. The M1 rifle ushered in an era that saw foreign nations scrambling for semiautomatic designs in individual infantry weapons. Britain and France discarded their old, time proven bolt actions and took up the Belgian FN design. Soviet Russia developed as her now standard infantry weapon, a rifle-powered submachinegun of 30 shot capacity (the AK).

Later, it was chambered for the then-standard .30-06 SpringfieldThe U. S. Rifle, caliber .30 M1 (fig 1) is a clip-fed, gas-operated, air-cooled, semiautomatic shoulder weapon. This means that the rifle is loaded by inserting a metal, clip (containing a maximum of eight rounds) into the receiver; that the power needed to cock the rifle and chamber each round comes from the expanding gas of the previous round; that the air cools the barrel; and that the rifle fires one round each time the trigger is pressed.
The rifle has a fixed front front sight and an adjustable rear sight. The rear sight aperture can be raised or lowered by means of the elevation knob on the left of the receiver, and moved right or left to adjust for the force of the wind by means of the windage knob on the right of the receiver.
Title: Re: M1 Garand
Post by: jyerxa on November 22, 2011, 04:38:44 PM
Now that is what I'm talking about!  :lol4: The Marines know.  :tup:

Based on this    (This first of the successfulul gas-operated rifles of full infantry power outgunned enemy rifles in Europe and the Pacific in the ratio of 3 to 1.)

Thanks.
Title: Re: M1 Garand
Post by: jyerxa on November 23, 2011, 08:17:44 AM
CMP reply

Springfield Armory got the orders for quantities of 308’s and they were made up for whatever was needed. The Air Force had ones as NM rifles in 308. The Navy had many as a Trophy rifle. The Marines Shared with the Army on the ones they had made up.   Armory

 

Phil New

Civilian Marksmanship Program

Lead Armorer

256-835-8455 ext. 1160
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