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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: longknife on November 24, 2011, 10:32:04 AM
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When we got her 87# doe this year(antlerless youth permit), i decided to take it to a locker, so i could hunt the rest of the time in Winthrop. Well when there, i just decided to go ahead and have them prosses it, and do 30# of pepperoni, and the rest, into steaks, and 2 roasts. It ended up costing me $260!
I understand the $3 a pound for the pepperoni, and pork fat price, and no complaints of its quality, but $150 to cut and wrap the remainder #20 is insaine!!!
Am i out of line on this? I know its been a while, but it used to be a by pound bassis.
Lesson learned, and am going to do it myself from now on. Or take it to Jhon Tuss on Camano Island, EXELLENT pepperoni, and sausages!
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That's crazy. I have some friends that had there deer cut up this year. And it was .50 cents per pound cut and wrapped and $3.00 per pound for summer sausage.
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Most places I have been are a flat 90-100 to cut the deer then the per pound to make pepperoni or whatever. I've gone to cutting my own and taking whatever I want made into pepperoni or sausage in later.
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Pepperoni is pretty easy to make yourself, just need a grinder and jerky/pepperoni gun. Oh, a smoker is handy too. Summer sausage is a little tougher as you need a much larger stuffer. I will be sending mine out for SS.
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Yes, i will definatly take the scrapps in to the butcher, no more $ being thrown out like that!
By the way it was Thompsons meats in Twisp, i would use them for a locker but thats it. (should have went with my instinct, had to drive over there also).
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I took a buck to owens and told them to perperonni and jerky the whole thing. they never called me . three months later i called them . the guy told me he was afraid to call me cause it was so much money . it was $ 360.00 wont do that again !
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Pepperoni is pretty easy to make yourself, just need a grinder and jerky/pepperoni gun. Oh, a smoker is handy too. Summer sausage is a little tougher as you need a much larger stuffer. I will be sending mine out for SS.
Do you have a good pepperoni recipe? I have been tempted to make my own, but hate to ruin any meat experimenting.
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I have made summer sausage, adding jimmy dean Sage to the meat, and smoked, came out awsome! Just trial and error for additives for me, and small batches.
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Pepperoni is pretty easy to make yourself, just need a grinder and jerky/pepperoni gun. Oh, a smoker is handy too. Summer sausage is a little tougher as you need a much larger stuffer. I will be sending mine out for SS.
Do you have a good pepperoni recipe? I have been tempted to make my own, but hate to ruin any meat experimenting.
Weathergirl just went online to find a recipe that sounded good to her. I think a lot of the packaged spice things have directions and recipes. There are probably some on the forum in the recipe part as well. WG's was quite mild. We added lean pork choulder instead of strait pork fat like some recipes call for.
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We never let anyone touch our meat, except to do pepperoni and sausage. We take the hour or so out of an evening to butcher a deer. Elk it usually takes a bit longer, but we have more guys doing it as well.
We are working on getting our own stuffer and doing our own from now on as well... although many think it is easier and more sanitary to just pay someone to do it for you.... :rolleyes: :dunno:
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For my deer on the eastside, I've got a friend that has a meat locker and gives me a deal on butchering. My buddies dad
and I then make up the teriyaki stick and german sausage using his smoker. It's not that hard to make up your own teriyaki
stick just tedious and time consuming. But I gotta admit that little teriyaki sticks are a much bigger pain in the butt
than the german sausages. My last elk I had on the westside, I took it to Dave Andersen in Cle Elum and he did a great job
and was very reasonable. I've had several buddies take their elk to him for cut and wrap.
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Hate to say it, but I spent $280 on my bull elk and I got 30lbs of breakfast sausage, 30lbs of Italian sausage, 12lbs of summer suasage, steaks and roasts cut and wrapped, and 90lbs of ground. I think you may have gotten taken :dunno: Did they at least do a good job??
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Helping my buddy butcher his deer was some great fun! dont know about all that sausage and pepps though. little more complexed. I spend enough money on tags and gas I dont foresee paying anyone to do anything I can do myself
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I'm just glad we do our own and some friends animals. Did 3 elk, and 17 deer so far. It's better to make a few bucks than spend it.
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Definitely an insane amount of money to spend for processing a deer. It always gets expensive when you start adding pepperoni or sausage into the mix. You can really save money by cutting it up yourself and it only takes about an hour or so. Take a portion of the meat in later to have pepperoni/sausage made if you wish. Much cheaper that way.
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That is indeed crazy. Most places are around .50cents a pound. On the weight of the animal then 3.00 a lb for the extras like summer sausage and pep.
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Let me guess, the clown up Navare Coulee.
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I think most butchers around Spokane are 90 cents a pound more or less. Thats for wild. If they are a usda place the wild falls under a differant set of cutting guidelines they have to follow. Then you have the speciality work for the Pepperoni and sausage. I stopped by a buddies just yesterday to talk to him. He was saying that he has seen the decline of the harvest as well. 10 years ago he said they did close to 1600 wild and now it is about 600 perhaps a shade more.
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Yes, i will definatly take the scrapps in to the butcher, no more $ being thrown out like that!
By the way it was Thompsons meats in Twisp, i would use them for a locker but thats it. (should have went with my instinct, had to drive over there also).
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If you have a pep. recipe you like from a local butcher, they will usually sell you the seasonong also. I some times buy the seasoning from a butcher locally and make my own with there seasoning.
You dont need a press to make pep. All you really need a grinder. Feed the meat back through after its mixed with the seasoning in to the casing and you got pep.
No need for a smoker either. The smoke does not penitrate the casing (unless using hog or pig casings), so an oven will work too ;)
Making Pep. and Summer Sausage, is a no brainer to make. You just get to experiment on what you like to add to it.
I have know guy that take there scraps to the butcher and have them ground with fat to make pep. and SS on there own at home.
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Without shanghing this post here is a link to the place I get my spices to do my stuff!
http://www.spokanespice.com/
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That price s crazy, we have a deal on deer any size plus 25lb pepperoni for 150.00, I am sorry to hear that he took you to the bank on her deer, i actually just got done making a little buck all into pepperoni for a young lady for free, just because i got to hear her storie and see her excitement.....
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WOW they are sure proud of there processing over there!
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Thats crazy...Guess thats why I do all my own processing. Next time spend the money on a good grinder and you can do all your own meat, from hamburger, pepperoni and summer sausage. Sounds like the grinder would have paid for itself after one use.
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Yeah that is a lot to spend. I proccessed my two deer last year and my brothers and this year did one and have two more to do. get a nice grinder and it is a piece of cake. I mix mine with a pork but and cook it in the oven. just sucker a friend over to help and it doesnt take to long. I wont pay to have another deer proccessed again.
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Cabelas has some nice deals on meat grinders and sausage stuffers in their Sale Flyer, FYI. I have a cheapie Rival meat grinder, but I'm tempted to get a good one.
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I take my elk in to have butchered every year. I drop off a whole elk (literally...not quartered) and it is $0.89/lb cut and wrapped for burger, steak and roasts. I take my deer to have made into pepperoni to a different place and it is $3.05/lb.
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That does sound a little high. The last deer I had processed was about that much but twice the weight. "Stuart's" Meat market in McKenna. They are not the cheapest but have been around for a very long time and do a decent job. The quality of there product is good. Just DO NOT ever take a deer to "Green Valley Meats". Unless you enjoy bending over! I took a deer there one time and walked away paying over $500.00. Never again! :bash:
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I've actually never heard a peep about anything bad about stewarts. Everyone I know loves that place. Some people will ONLY buy their meat from those guys. They've built quite the rep and seem interested in keeping it.
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I've read some bad reviews about Stewart's on this board............
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=10883.0
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,12563.0.html
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I've actually never heard a peep about anything bad about stewarts. Everyone I know loves that place. Some people will ONLY buy their meat from those guys. They've built quite the rep and seem interested in keeping it.
They have been in biz since 1938.
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I've read some bad reviews about Stewart's on this board............
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=10883.0
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,12563.0.html
You simply can't please everybody all the time.
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I have been one of Stewarts biggest critics in the past but it seems that they have cleaned up their act and are cleaner and more accurate with their butchering as of late.
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If u live around south west washington uncle jims is the $hit.. great guy and just a complete profesional product he puts out.. the worst place IMO is Heritage meats in rochester.. they use to be pretty good but went down the $hitter..& I'm talking about ss & pepp.. I got mine back from uncle jim's in 4 days and he prides himself on u getting ur meat back not scrap or beef or somebody elses.. again great guy & he is consistant and its never dry always nice and moist.. he is in Adna
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Holy Hell were did you go??
I usually take my deer/elk to Stewarts in Mckenna, WA... If I don't do them myself. I would have only charged you $150.00 out the door with summer sausage.
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Holy Hell were did you go??
I usually take my deer/elk to Stewarts in Mckenna, WA... If I don't do them myself. I would have only charged you $150.00 out the door with summer sausage.
Whom are you refering to?
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The op
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Yes, i will definatly take the scrapps in to the butcher, no more $ being thrown out like that!
By the way it was Thompsons meats in Twisp, i would use them for a locker but thats it. (should have went with my instinct, had to drive over there also).
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If u live around south west washington uncle jims is the $hit.. great guy and just a complete profesional product he puts out.. the worst place IMO is Heritage meats in rochester.. they use to be pretty good but went down the $hitter..& I'm talking about ss & pepp.. I got mine back from uncle jim's in 4 days and he prides himself on u getting ur meat back not scrap or beef or somebody elses.. again great guy & he is consistant and its never dry always nice and moist.. he is in Adna
:yeah: X2 on Uncle Jims. Great product!!
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I do all my own cutting and wrapping and have since I took a clean 250# hanging weight buck in
and got a total of 100 pounds back and some of it had been from a gut shot deer.
Same place a original poster to this string----- previous owners though
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Linds custom meats, near Kent, is my favorite place to take game. His place is the only place that I know of, that expects you to be there to wrap your own meat, You have to bring friends to help, but he brings your animal out and will ask you how you want things as he cuts up your animal, and you can witness your animal being cut up. He will ask, how thick do you want your steaks? 1 or 2lb packages for burger? how many steaks in a pkg.? You know you get all your meat! I tried to offer my wrapping help once closer to home, for a deer at fox meats in Stanwood, and they said NO Way! Looked at me like I was crazy! The price was down per lb. at Linds because you are not paying for someone to wrap it for you. It is some work to wrap, but then you can double wrap also!
Word to the wise though!! Do not bring in any game that is dirty :bdid: The first elk I brought to him, I had scrubbed on and cleaned for quite a while and thought it was pretty clean actually. And I was brought up and raised to take pride in the care of game as soon as the animal hits the ground, really! Well, when he tossed me a brush and the hose, and said hurry up it's almost closing time! I learned really fast what he expects, but also, made me glad that this is the way he runs his business, and is exactly why I want to continue going there.
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Stewarts Meats... NO WAY --- NO HOW
Learn to bone out your own animals then get a grinder atttachment for your blender and your off to a great start. You can make a roast out of any single muscle group of an animal. The larger muscles are in the hind half of the animal.
For pepperoni you can take the 25 lbs or the minimal amount the butcher will require to do a batch and just hand it to them. Mountain View meats does my pepperoni for 4 dollars a lb. Kind of expensive but I love the results. The rest I cut myself.
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Opinion stated....thank you :hello:
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Linds custom meats, near Kent, is my favorite place to take game. His place is the only place that I know of, that expects you to be there to wrap your own meat, You have to bring friends to help, but he brings your animal out and will ask you how you want things as he cuts up your animal, and you can witness your animal being cut up. He will ask, how thick do you want your steaks? 1 or 2lb packages for burger? how many steaks in a pkg.? You know you get all your meat! I tried to offer my wrapping help once closer to home, for a deer at fox meats in Stanwood, and they said NO Way! Looked at me like I was crazy! The price was down per lb. at Linds because you are not paying for someone to wrap it for you. It is some work to wrap, but then you can double wrap also!
Word to the wise though!! Do not bring in any game that is dirty :bdid: The first elk I brought to him, I had scrubbed on and cleaned for quite a while and thought it was pretty clean actually. And I was brought up and raised to take pride in the care of game as soon as the animal hits the ground, really! Well, when he tossed me a brush and the hose, and said hurry up it's almost closing time! I learned really fast what he expects, but also, made me glad that this is the way he runs his business, and is exactly why I want to continue going there.
Mike Lind does it right. I miss not being able to take my meat there now that i live too far away. Yes he is a stickler on your meat being clean. Otherwise you might end up eating it.So if you like mouse turds in your meat then bring it in dirty. Its been awhile since i been in there.I think my last deer was $45
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Opinion stated....thank you :hello:
That is what this site is all about. You will actually see my post in what I personally witnessed at Stewarts Meats. I have two witnesses that saw the same thing. Your welcome on facts are facts.
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Ya gotta do it yourself, if you want salami, pepperoni etc take them the cut meat & have it done.
An acquaintince of ours occasionaly had venison backstrap steaks givin to him by a butcher shop employee. This was with the story that a customer would bring in a deer & want the whole thing made into some kind of sausage & no way were they going to make that backstrap into sausage. So what did the customer get replacement meat or shorted? Either way ripped off.
I'm sure many if not most of the shops are reputable, but.......
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The butcher I use cost $100 for cut and wrapped meat which includes breakfast sausage. They sure get you on the speciality items though.
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Thats just insane! How can they have a clear conscience?!?!? Im glad i enjoy butchering and cutting meat. Slicing and grinding your own meat is rewarding. It costs a bit to buy all the equiptment but once you have it, it pays for itself. I understand why ya had it done but maybe cut it up and cram it in a cooler. Hanging meat does nothing if its gonna get ground up. Thats alot of dough for 20 pounds. Enjoy those roasts :)
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We're lucky that we have a reefer unit at the place we're renting. I remember looking into lockers for rent a few years ago.. not going to happen. No one will hang one anymore without wanting to butcher. And I can't blame them, too many regulations if they're cutting wild and domestic. Like many said, do it yourself if you can. It's actually fairly easy, and more rewarding. I would suggest getting into a cheap used fridge and age that direction if you're looking to age (personally preferred).
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We're lucky that we have a reefer unit at the place we're renting. I remember looking into lockers for rent a few years ago.. not going to happen. No one will hang one anymore without wanting to butcher. And I can't blame them, too many regulations if they're cutting wild and domestic. Like many said, do it yourself if you can. It's actually fairly easy, and more rewarding. I would suggest getting into a cheap used fridge and age that direction if you're looking to age (personally preferred).
I am one for letting animals hang for a longer period than the 3 days they tell you it has to be done as well! Father is From Minnesota, and they would let deer hang for 2 weeks before cutting. I am looking into a walk in cooler, and a couple SS tables. I better get ahead of the game, fishing season is just around the corner!
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We're lucky that we have a reefer unit at the place we're renting. I remember looking into lockers for rent a few years ago.. not going to happen. No one will hang one anymore without wanting to butcher. And I can't blame them, too many regulations if they're cutting wild and domestic. Like many said, do it yourself if you can. It's actually fairly easy, and more rewarding. I would suggest getting into a cheap used fridge and age that direction if you're looking to age (personally preferred).
I am one for letting animals hang for a longer period than the 3 days they tell you it has to be done as well! Father is From Minnesota, and they would let deer hang for 2 weeks before cutting. I am looking into a walk in cooler, and a couple SS tables. I better get ahead of the game, fishing season is just around the corner!
I'm going for my personal record. 3 weeks tomorrow. I'm pretty jacked up to see if there's any difference. I've let them hang longer but only b/c they froze solid. This will be my first controlled age. Most beef goes 21 days, why can't a deer? You should look online about how to modify a window A/C unit. Apparently you can override the control. I've read good things about them, not sure how reliable they are, but was looking at rigging one until I ran into my current setup. I checked two days ago and still no green fuzz. I'm now debating how much sausage I want to do because I know some of those rear cuts are going to be TENDER.
I get riled up on the game taste issue. Part hanging time, mostly cooking. I've tasted calf elk that tasted like boot with road apple butter. That's real hard to mess up. I've had rutted bulls that tasted great, if you age properly, and cook rare.. can't beat it. All I've been thinking about the last two weeks are backstraps... and it's been hard to restrain.
What's an SS table?
While on semi-topic, I read in the Alaska HF magazine today about caribou drinking urine during the rut. I'm not sure you could age or cook that right from the sounds of it. I thought my dog eating horse chit was bad...
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We're lucky that we have a reefer unit at the place we're renting. I remember looking into lockers for rent a few years ago.. not going to happen. No one will hang one anymore without wanting to butcher. And I can't blame them, too many regulations if they're cutting wild and domestic. Like many said, do it yourself if you can. It's actually fairly easy, and more rewarding. I would suggest getting into a cheap used fridge and age that direction if you're looking to age (personally preferred).
I am one for letting animals hang for a longer period than the 3 days they tell you it has to be done as well! Father is From Minnesota, and they would let deer hang for 2 weeks before cutting. I am looking into a walk in cooler, and a couple SS tables. I better get ahead of the game, fishing season is just around the corner!
I'm going for my personal record. 3 weeks tomorrow. I'm pretty jacked up to see if there's any difference. I've let them hang longer but only b/c they froze solid. This will be my first controlled age. Most beef goes 21 days, why can't a deer? You should look online about how to modify a window A/C unit. Apparently you can override the control. I've read good things about them, not sure how reliable they are, but was looking at rigging one until I ran into my current setup. I checked two days ago and still no green fuzz. I'm now debating how much sausage I want to do because I know some of those rear cuts are going to be TENDER.
I get riled up on the game taste issue. Part hanging time, mostly cooking. I've tasted calf elk that tasted like boot with road apple butter. That's real hard to mess up. I've had rutted bulls that tasted great, if you age properly, and cook rare.. can't beat it. All I've been thinking about the last two weeks are backstraps... and it's been hard to restrain.
What's an SS table?
While on semi-topic, I read in the Alaska HF magazine today about caribou drinking urine during the rut. I'm not sure you could age or cook that right from the sounds of it. I thought my dog eating horse chit was bad...
LOL, i wondered why theres no nutritional value to caribou! Good luck on the meat, sounds good!
I meant Stainless Steel tables, halibut season is 5 months away, need a good cutting area this year for saltwater fishing! Its a Good start.
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My kids was under $200, 30pds. pep, 10pds. breakfast sge., 15pds. ground.
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I was tired of paying all the money as well. I bought myself a meat grinder and did my own this year for about 40.00, thats burger, breakfast sausage, summer sausage and vacuum seal bags.
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I guess my $524 bill for duck / goose pepperoni is way out of line.
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I used Stewarts/Mckenna's meats this season.... Did a nice job at a reasonable price. However, if I'd gotten my elk during a cooler part of the year I'd be tempted to butcher him out myself. I'd suggest using dry ice to quick freeze.
All the review that were linked were written in 08 so maybe they've fixed whatever.
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I took my deer to nile valley game processing and it was 94 dollars for steaks and burger, plus i had it deboned so that was an extra 20 dollars. Pretty reasonable though. That pepperoini is where they get you, I am considering taking in some of my ducks this year though, we'll see, he said they add 50% pork meat to the duck/goose :yike:
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the peperonni was $3 lbs., not bad for the quality. it was the $150 for cut and wrap the 25lbs thats BS!