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Title: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: Goshawk on November 26, 2011, 09:39:02 AM
I don't know much about hunting guide services in Washington State, but I do know it's buyer beware. Do your research from clients who were and who were not successful on their hunts before you pay money. I know of one Donkey Butt (jack ass) who operates in the Lewis County area. He goes around in his blaze yellow truck posting timber company lands that are open to walk in hunters with "No Trespassing" signs then tries to run off anyone he finds hunting on his land. His clients are paying money to hunt on land that has no special animal population and is accessible to anyone with boots, while he's telling them he alone as access. Not exactly what I would call a quality hunt, let alone a wilderness experience.
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: ICEMAN on November 26, 2011, 07:34:50 PM
I would report him to wildlife for prosecution.
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: madmack76 on November 26, 2011, 07:41:21 PM
who is it goshawk might as well call him out so we know
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 26, 2011, 07:41:51 PM
I would report him to wildlife for prosecution.

In a heartbeat, several years ago here in Douglas Co. DNR went over their property on Badger Mt. It was amazing how many no trespassing sighns were removed and fences that were torn down that had been posted and blocked for years. :tup:
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on November 26, 2011, 08:08:26 PM
Yep, I sure wouldn't book a hunt with JeffBlair!! Laffin

I know what ya mean, I've been on a handfull, hunt where I couldn't scout "WSMR in NM" or BC when I had a hard-on for a good Mtn Caribou
 Done right, they are great. The guides I've been with have actually given me the reins when they figure out your not a city slicker which is
nice. Got screwed last year, didn't call any refrences, just handed over the money. Learned a valuble lesson, and lost a more valuble tag....
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: Goshawk on November 26, 2011, 08:35:10 PM
who is it goshawk might as well call him out so we know

I have no idea what the Bozo's name is. And, I'm not interested in finding out. My point is just that before you hand over your hard earned dollars you need to do more homework than looking over a web-page. If the land owner(s) ever see him doing it, and if they file a complante, then something can be done. It takes the land owner to start the process and that's the snag.
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 26, 2011, 08:43:35 PM
Sounds like you could care less about reporting him, which is your choice.
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: Goshawk on November 27, 2011, 10:42:33 AM
Sounds like you could care less about reporting him, which is your choice.

To whom do I report him to, since I'm not the land owner or an agent thereof?

Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: tigguy on November 27, 2011, 12:01:31 PM
 Goshawk-
-There's a couple ways to go about it. If it's private timber land that allows walk-in, call your area's hotline. You obviously know who owns it so you'll obviously know which timber company hotline to call.
-If it's state or federal land, call the coppers.
-If he interferes with you and your hunting activities, call the warden.
And don't forget to tell him to kick rocks when/if you're legal to be there yourself.
Sometimes it's beneficial to you to keep hush hush, as in when it's keeping your hunting pressure down.  :twocents: deposited here.
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: jager on November 27, 2011, 12:16:46 PM
"NEVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR."

Curious...Personal experience or internet info?

 The other day I read about 20 pages of info on guys getting screwed by him and "his outfitters"
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: big wood on November 27, 2011, 03:07:43 PM
just do it yourself. a couple of guided hunts could easily pay for a wall tent, wood stove, cots, camping gear and maybe even a horse. i use horses but you only need 1 if you lead him. good luck
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: Goshawk on November 27, 2011, 07:30:23 PM
But that's not always practical.
I would love to some day afford to buy my daughter either an elk or moose hunt (its the only reason I buy a lotto ticket).
For me to do a couple of weeks of scouting in Moose country like BC or Alaska, buy and lug enough gear to make a camp then take time off work and go hunting with her just can not happen.
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 27, 2011, 07:32:55 PM
Goshawk if you really wanted to do an Alaska moose hunt you should do a DIY hunt and hire a guy like Larry Bartlett to help you set it up. Alot cheaper that way.
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: Goshawk on November 30, 2011, 02:30:25 PM
Wanting to and able to are two vastly different places...
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: jrebel on November 30, 2011, 03:25:58 PM
There was an outfitter out of the Okanogan doing this last year.  He leased a 40 acre parcel in the middle of a ton of other private land.  He got permission form another landowner to access the leased 40 acres.  He then proceeded to kick people off the adjacent land saying he had sole rights to hunt it.  Little did he know he was wrong for kicking certain people off and now he has no access to his leased 40 acres  :chuckle: :chuckle:....SOME PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID!!
Title: Re: Guided hunts, do your research.
Post by: Goshawk on December 18, 2011, 09:23:22 PM
The problem is that you can make hunting next to a highway look great with the proper camera angle, and post it on line. Some suckers are getting screw out of their dollars to hunt public ground, while the local hunters are being told to stay off his land.
If I ever do see him again, I'll be sure to write down a license plate or remember his name for public posting. Another part of the problem is that this timber company does not really care enough to try and chase down this problem, because it's not a problem for them. They figure the more people on their lands, the more exposure to damage and injuries, so a loose cannon running off others is not necessarily a bad thing so long as they are not subject to bad press.
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