Post by: 2506 on November 30, 2011, 07:24:53 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 30, 2011, 07:27:29 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 30, 2011, 07:40:44 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on November 30, 2011, 07:52:07 PM
About a 40% reduction in recoil, and a corresponding increase in decibels. You will need to wear hearing protection 100% of the time or risk loss of hearing with even one shot.
My cousin had one built, same caliber with a break. Took one shot during elk season and missed. Rang his bell so hard, he walked over a mile back to camp, put the gun back into its gun case and got out his good ol' .270 and finished the season with it. His ears rang for over a day and he sold his custom 7mm. Just sayin'
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 30, 2011, 11:40:47 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 30, 2011, 11:44:39 PM
About a 40% reduction in recoil, and a corresponding increase in decibels. You will need to wear hearing protection 100% of the time or risk loss of hearing with even one shot.
My cousin had one built, same caliber with a break. Took one shot during elk season and missed. Rang his bell so hard, he walked over a mile back to camp, put the gun back into its gun case and got out his good ol' .270 and finished the season with it. His ears rang for over a day and he sold his custom 7mm. Just sayin'
Been there done that, spot on. In the open country here in eastern WA. I carry hearing protection, we have time to cover up due to the fact the shots are longer and it's more of a ambush style of hunting where I'm at. Trust me, use hearing protection with them. I learned the hard way over the year, it gets you a little at a time.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on November 30, 2011, 11:46:45 PM
I have a 7mm mag now and if you have a decent recoil pad on it, it does not need one. My 75lb 12 year old shoots it... :twocents:
Post by: 7mag. on December 01, 2011, 12:28:46 AM
Post by: halflife65 on December 01, 2011, 01:03:36 AM
I have good hearing, by the way, so it wasn't just that my cochlear implant failed or something along those lines.
Post by: jyerxa on December 01, 2011, 06:04:39 AM
They look cool but......... My 7mm kicks like a mule. I think I will deal with the bruises. Good question though and good info.
I have never tried these yet. I keep meaning too. Remington has a managed recoil load. Any one try these yet?
http://www.remington.com/product-families/ammunition/centerfire-families/managed-recoil.aspx
Post by: GoldTip on December 01, 2011, 06:26:08 AM
Post by: halflife65 on December 01, 2011, 06:32:55 AM
I have a .300WSM with a brake and it's not bad at all to shoot when hunting. I killed a deer this year with it (some other state), shot twice and never noticed anything more than I would've with my unbraked .270. It wasn't that big of a deal. I didn't put my earhole on the brake and pull the trigger, though.
I have good hearing, by the way, so it wasn't just that my cochlear implant failed or something along those lines.
Let me qualify a bit - it IS louder than an unbraked rifle. My point is that out in the open with only a shot or two it didn't matter much whether or not it had a brake. I'm sure that if I would've crawled down a culvert pipe before I shot it would've blown my fake cochlear implants out of my skull.
The only reason that I put a brake on this particular rifle is that it likes to reach up with the scope and slap me in the forehead (yeah, scope is mounted properly.)
Post by: 400out on December 01, 2011, 06:42:13 AM
Post by: deerslyr on December 01, 2011, 06:44:51 AM
Post by: 204chucknorris on December 01, 2011, 06:46:19 AM
last of all is excessive cleaning not just a few passes with the cheap hopped kit from the local store as this stuff just knocks the dust off. I Alsop reload for my dads 300wm and prior with factory ammo it had excessive muzzle rise and recoil. You had to really hold onto the forend when shooting this thing. With reloads it has drascltically reduced the muzzle rise and cleaning due to not having all the copper fouling. I am not against brakes as I have had alot of interest myself.
Post by: 204chucknorris on December 01, 2011, 07:08:20 AM
Post by: jyerxa on December 01, 2011, 07:09:06 AM
My dad gave me a RCBS, I think it is, reload kit years ago. Shame on me for never perusing it. I was a single parent is my only excuse. I think he got me the dyes for my 7mm. At the time I was more interested in 44 dyes. I just never had the money or time to carry it further. Nor the time to read about all the powders, scales and just everything else.
I use to buy reloads from a chief in the navy for my 44. I was shooting 300 gr. Wad cutters and every single time I had to remove the cylinder and pound out the brass. I accused him of loading to Hot and formed an iffy if not down right no, nadda, no way attitude about reloading. And since I don't know crap about that. You mean to tell me a You can reduce a 300 WSM to the recoil of a 243 with the same ballistics? I think you just got my attention.
Post by: rbros on December 01, 2011, 07:23:15 AM
Post by: wraithen on December 01, 2011, 07:47:49 AM
Post by: high country on December 01, 2011, 09:19:39 AM
Post by: JohnVH on December 01, 2011, 09:55:52 AM
Post by: deerslyr on December 01, 2011, 03:05:02 PM
Does anyone make a brake that is able to turn it off? I like the idea of one but I was standing 45 degrees off of a guys 300 win mag with brake and didn't see the muzzle brake til it was too late. I was wearing hearing protection but I instantly got a headache and my insides felt like jello for a second. I'd rather be able to twist the brake and have it close and deal with the recoil if someone is next to me.
Savage came up with a brake that you can twist on and off. The point of zero isnt affected either. I dont think it reduces recoil as much as most brakes but it sure makes a difference from what ive heard and the videos ive watched.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 01, 2011, 05:17:20 PM
I have a 7mm that is Completely stock and have no muzzle rise to speak of and I can sit down and shoot 30-40 rounds through it in one setting no issues.
Yeah, but your screen name is Chuck Norris... doesn't mean that humans can do that... :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: jager on December 01, 2011, 05:25:13 PM
Why not just get a lead sled...? It will dampen most of the recoil for sighting in or target shooting. That, and you'll never feel the recoil shooting at game without it anyway.
I have both a 7mag and a 300 wsm. and sight in with the sled..works great! :twocents:
Post by: jyerxa on December 01, 2011, 11:54:02 PM
Post by: halflife65 on December 02, 2011, 12:11:50 AM
He just bites down on the primer and launches the bullet through a straw. He doesn't need any stinkin' rifle.I have a 7mm that is Completely stock and have no muzzle rise to speak of and I can sit down and shoot 30-40 rounds through it in one setting no issues.
Yeah, but your screen name is Chuck Norris... doesn't mean that humans can do that... :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: 204chucknorris on December 02, 2011, 06:11:28 AM
He just bites down on the primer and launches the bullet through a straw. He doesn't need any stinkin' rifle.I have a 7mm that is Completely stock and have no muzzle rise to speak of and I can sit down and shoot 30-40 rounds through it in one setting no issues.
Yeah, but your screen name is Chuck Norris... doesn't mean that humans can do that... :dunno: :chuckle:
Hahahahhahahaha that's pretty good. O trust me prior reloading the whole recoil ordeal was a little different. I have a buddy with a old 300wm that would flat hurt you in two shots! Not cool. I spent some excessive time cleaning it and now its reasonable to shoot. Just saying a clean as gun makes a huge difference. :IBCOOL:
Post by: rtspring on December 02, 2011, 06:44:07 AM
I did notice lower recoil, but not worth the noise increase in my opinion.
Post by: jyerxa on December 02, 2011, 03:37:09 PM
I'll keep it the way it is. ;)
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 04, 2011, 08:45:19 AM
Post by: Bob33 on December 04, 2011, 09:08:49 AM
Post by: dscubame on December 04, 2011, 09:12:16 AM
Post by: KillBilly on December 04, 2011, 09:23:26 AM
Once you go brake you'll never go back. Limbsaver and a brake and your shooting experience and accuracy will benefit greatly. That is the best advice.:yeah:
Post by: KillBilly on December 04, 2011, 10:35:06 AM
Post by: dscubame on December 04, 2011, 10:41:11 AM
Post by: high country on December 04, 2011, 07:30:41 PM
Post by: deerslyr on December 04, 2011, 07:36:13 PM
Bark a vias from the prone in the field sometime without glasses and plugs. Once is enough.
You would be speaking from experience would you high country :chuckle:
Post by: high country on December 04, 2011, 07:41:13 PM
Bark a vias from the prone in the field sometime without glasses and plugs. Once is enough.
You would be speaking from experience would you high country :chuckle:
I picked chit out of my eyes for a week. Some might get off on that stuff...not me.
Post by: rbros on December 04, 2011, 08:16:48 PM
Post by: 3nails on December 04, 2011, 08:44:14 PM
Post by: wraithen on December 04, 2011, 08:47:13 PM
Post by: rbros on December 05, 2011, 07:43:09 AM
Post by: Miles on December 05, 2011, 07:51:20 AM
My sons' first gun at 12 yrs and 90 lbs is a Tikka t3 300 wsm that people on here say "kicks like a mule" and he's never had a problem with it. I've asked him several times if it kicks too hard and all I hear is "nope".
Next time you're shooting with him, drop an empty round in, hand him the gun and tell him " it's ready to go". Don't let him know that you put the empty round in. You'll know if it kicks and if the recoil is bothering him as soon as he pulls the trigger....
I'm willing to bet it kicks him more than he is leading you to believe. If he's just "being tough" around dad, this could hinder his shooting abilities in the future. If he develops a flinch, it can take a lot of trigger time to get rid of it.
Post by: KillBilly on December 05, 2011, 08:17:42 AM
Bark a vias from the prone in the field sometime without glasses and plugs. Once is enough.
My brakes don't bark.... what are you trying to say? What has the prone got to do with anything. At least give me something with teeth to argue against... :dunno:
Post by: Huntboy on December 05, 2011, 08:19:26 AM
Ive heard of guys doing something with mercury I wanna say? can anyone clarify this?I don't know if this was already covered, but it's a mercury dampener.
Post by: KillBilly on December 05, 2011, 08:19:59 AM
Muzzle brakes just makes things more comfortable to shoot. Some guys want large calibers and no recoil, others want to spot their own shots at any distance, lots of reasons. I run them on some of my comp rifles to never come off target at any range and be able to engage multiple targets quickly. My hunting rifles have them to be able to stay on target and spot my own shots at any distance. I shoot between 20000-35000 rounds a year through centerfire rifles from .223 AR's to 338 Edges and the brakes do come in handy at times. For me, its the convenience of being able to see where I am hitting at all times and distances on my "braked" rifles.
:yeah:
Post by: high country on December 05, 2011, 08:20:41 AM
Bark a vias from the prone in the field sometime without glasses and plugs. Once is enough.
My brakes don't bark.... what are you trying to say? What has the prone got to do with anything. At least give me something with teeth to argue against... :dunno:
It will pick up every bit of moveable grit and sandblast your case with it. Try it once...not.
Post by: KillBilly on December 05, 2011, 08:23:20 AM
Bark a vias from the prone in the field sometime without glasses and plugs. Once is enough.
My brakes don't bark.... what are you trying to say? What has the prone got to do with anything. At least give me something with teeth to argue against... :dunno:
It will pick up every bit of moveable grit and sandblast your case with it. Try it once...not.
I don't know what a Vias is, I have heard of a Vais, but I do know that my brakes don't kick stuff in my face. Maybe it is because my gunsmith knows what he is doing. :twocents:
Post by: high country on December 05, 2011, 08:31:12 AM
Post by: wraithen on December 05, 2011, 08:59:29 AM
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Next time you're shooting with him, drop an empty round in, hand him the gun and tell him " it's ready to go". Don't let him know that you put the empty round in. You'll know if it kicks and if the recoil is bothering him as soon as he pulls the trigger....
I'm willing to bet it kicks him more than he is leading you to believe. If he's just "being tough" around dad, this could hinder his shooting abilities in the future. If he develops a flinch, it can take a lot of trigger time to get rid of it.
Hahahaha! I did this to my wife to prove she was yanking the trigger on the glock. When she hit that 5th round and nothing happened she saw she was pulling herself off target. It's a great drill for anyone to make sure they aren't pulling the trigger.
Post by: rbros on December 05, 2011, 10:30:25 AM
Bark a vias from the prone in the field sometime without glasses and plugs. Once is enough.
My brakes don't bark.... what are you trying to say? What has the prone got to do with anything. At least give me something with teeth to argue against... :dunno:
It will pick up every bit of moveable grit and sandblast your case with it. Try it once...not.
I don't know what a Vias is, I have heard of a Vais, but I do know that my brakes don't kick stuff in my face. Maybe it is because my gunsmith knows what he is doing. :twocents:
Vias brakes have holes 360 degrees around them. They blow crap everywhere!...especially when prone in the dirt.
Post by: 2506 on December 05, 2011, 05:39:21 PM
Post by: deerslyr on December 05, 2011, 09:30:19 PM
Ive heard of guys doing something with mercury I wanna say? can anyone clarify this?I don't know if this was already covered, but it's a mercury dampener.
Do they work?
Post by: Encore 280 on December 08, 2011, 08:07:59 AM