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Title: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: mossyoak arrow slinger on November 30, 2011, 08:47:10 PM: Lately I have seen more and more people shooting the two inch blazers. I have always shot four in quickspin. I am curious on the difference , I have thought about switching for I'm mt shooting as consistent as I would like. But before I spend the money I would like some in put. Any info.would be great thanks guys.
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on November 30, 2011, 08:52:21 PM: 2 or 4 doesn't matter... it will not help with your groups to switch to 2 from 4... it can hurt it.

only real reason to switch to 2 is if you have your form down really well and you want your arrows to have less of an arch.

:twocents:

stick with 4 unless your grouping is really, really good. :twocents:
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: mossyoak arrow slinger on November 30, 2011, 09:04:28 PM: I consider my grouing to be real good but this year I have missed three different elk because of the arrow path and stuff I thought I should clear that I didmt. Is there a big difference between quickspin and blazers.
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: archery288 on November 30, 2011, 09:06:28 PM: I have been shooting 2" blazers for the past 5 years.. I shot 4 3" Vanetec's before that.. The blazers aren't as heavy as 4 vanes for one, therefore increasing your front of center. And the larger vanes do put more of a drag on the arrow if they have a helical fletch. I like the Blazers as they are stiffer and dont' get rippled if you hit them with another arrow. Shoot whatever you are comfortable and confident in! That's my two cents on that subject.
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: grundy53 on November 30, 2011, 09:08:11 PM: Just tagging this thread Because i'm interested....
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: mossyoak arrow slinger on November 30, 2011, 09:24:10 PM: Thank you for all the information I am trying to become a more well rounded archer and there is so much stuff I never even thought about. You say helical has more drag. Would you shoot your blazer straight or right helical. Right now I shoot a right helical and have wanted to get a way from it. Once again trying to get as much info as possible without spending a ton of money and trying everything.
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: dreamunelk on November 30, 2011, 09:24:52 PM: Quote from: mossyoak arrow slinger on November 30, 2011, 09:04:28 PM
I consider my grouing to be real good but this year I have missed three different elk because of the arrow path and stuff I thought I should clear that I didmt. Is there a big difference between quickspin and blazers.

Dude how far are you shooting? Definitely something wrong, may not be your arrow. Bow issue? Are you judging distances correctly? Maybe some stump shooting is in order to get some of the bugs out. Are you getting a case of elk fever? Happens to the best of us.

Honestly I am not trying to be a Smarta$$.
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: JLS on November 30, 2011, 09:27:06 PM: Your arrow should stabilize better with 4" vanes and BH than with Blazers. How much is pretty subjective. I've compared both, and found that Blazers will do an amazing job of stabilizing fixed blade broad heads, even in windy conditions. I have and still use both. One won't make you a better shot than the other. I like a lot of offset on mine, which I do with a Bitzenburger helical jig. I have no experience with Quickspins, I haven't seen a tremendous amount of trajectory difference between 4" vanes and Blazers.
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: JLS on November 30, 2011, 09:28:56 PM: Quote from: mossyoak arrow slinger on November 30, 2011, 09:24:10 PM
Thank you for all the information I am trying to become a more well rounded archer and there is so much stuff I never even thought about. You say helical has more drag. Would you shoot your blazer straight or right helical. Right now I shoot a right helical and have wanted to get a way from it. Once again trying to get as much info as possible without spending a ton of money and trying everything.

A straight fletch will not stabilize an arrow as fast as an arrow with offset/helical fletch.

Yes, you'll lose drag, but you'll also lose broadhead stability and accuracy.
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on November 30, 2011, 09:31:18 PM: Quote from: mossyoak arrow slinger on November 30, 2011, 09:04:28 PM
I consider my grouing to be real good but this year I have missed three different elk because of the arrow path and stuff I thought I should clear that I didmt. Is there a big difference between quickspin and blazers.

there isn't enough difference between them to give a second thought.

that doesn't sound like an equipment issue... more of a "learning your equipment" issue...

you could do things such as smaller vanes to increase speed and reduce arch, but more than likely you just need to practice and accept that it is hard to perfectly simulate actual hunting conditions while practicing and misses are a part of it...
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: mossyoak arrow slinger on November 30, 2011, 09:45:37 PM: Yes very True and one of them I did miss judge the other were just stupid misses one beinog the trajectory of the arrow and a small twig. I shoot quite a bit but you are very right about simulating a real life shot on an animal. the bow I hunt with is brand new to me and that is part of the problem I am havinf. Getting to know my equipment
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: Wazukie on November 30, 2011, 09:47:00 PM: Well, I used to shoot semi-pro Vegas 5 spot and did a lot of outdoor shooting. It is true that a 4" helical will stabilize a broad head tip arrow faster. But I can tell you that all of my outdoor arrows were fletched with 4, 2" straight veined fletchings. All of my hunting arrows were allways 4" extreme RH helical. Worked for me, might not work for you. Like has been said. When it comes to archery, your form is the most important aspect. Try some blind bail shooting to work on your form
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 30, 2011, 10:42:13 PM: I shoot 4 2" offset vanes, vanetec hp's :tup:
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: yajsab on December 01, 2011, 07:55:02 AM: I used to shoot 4" vanes. I switched to blazers and then 3" fusion. In my experience, there's not much difference between these vanes. This year I missed an elk at 30 yards shooting through thick stuff. Next year, I'll carry couple arrows with 2" feathers for situation like this.
Title: Re: 2" or 4" fletches
Post by: buckfvr on December 01, 2011, 10:11:50 AM: I shoot 3 3in ( 2 7/8s ) Arizonas with broadheads and field points......aluminums, carbons ( 4 different kinds ), 2 degree offset from a Bitzenburger, no problems , no accuracy issues, no tuning issues......3 different bows all perform well. It can be your rest, your grip, or a new bow thing, tuning, or you. Get your own fletching jig, order some fletch, and figure out what works for you.......I personally believe you can get just about anything to work if you know how to set up.

I recently changed some 4 fletch Blazers to what I use, and the guy saw no difference what so ever. The Blazers were falling off, he had an option to take them back to the shop that did them, or try my way.....now he can do his own. Its something every archer should do.