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Equipment & Gear => Archery Gear => Topic started by: Antlershed on July 14, 2008, 11:27:11 AM

Title: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: Antlershed on July 14, 2008, 11:27:11 AM: Alright, trying to get everything figured out for my bow, and I think this is probably the best knowledge base I have. I picked up the Easton Axis N-Fused arrows and with a 27" arrow and a 100 grain broadhead, it would put me at a total weight of 389 grains, which is legal, but is it heavy enough? Should I go with a 125gr broadhead? Also, do I need to line the broadhead up with the vanes of the arrow (have heard both ways on this)? Any recommendations on broadheads? I'm still trying to learn everything about this, and there is only one archery pro shop around here, and I have heard some people weren't too happy with it. Olympic Archery and The Archery House are both no more... Thanks.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: DeKuma on July 14, 2008, 02:49:48 PM: I am a little curious with the weight issue as well. My Beman MFX at 27" with 100gr tip comes in right at 400gr. Will the smaller diameter make up for the weight in the penetration department? KE should be enough, right?
I am looking at arrows being use for elk and bear mainly this year.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: bowhuntin on July 14, 2008, 05:09:49 PM: I thought 400 grains is minimum? Did you include your knock, insert and fletching in how much your arrow weighs? Not exactly sure if you want a real heavy arrow, you want a combination of weight and speed. My arrows are around 420-430 and I think that is plenty of weight, some may think otherwise though. As long as it is legal I think you will be just fine. As far as lining up the broadhead with the fletching, I personally think it doesn't matter. A lot of broadheads you can just screw on and shoot the same as field points, such as montec g5, magnus stingers or slick tricks. I guess you could get some broadheads and try both ways out. I don't think it matters, just make the necessary adjustments if they don't hit the same as your field points.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: Lowedog on July 14, 2008, 05:17:40 PM: Your arrow must be 6gr per pound of of draw weight. 389 grains will do the job just fine. Shot placement is everything and assuming you are shooting 250fps + that arrow will pass through on a well placed shot with no problem.

-Lowedog
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: huntnphool on July 14, 2008, 05:20:14 PM: Quote from: bowhuntin on July 14, 2008, 05:09:49 PM
I thought 400 grains is minimum?

Its actually 300, check page 67 of your regs.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: Antlershed on July 14, 2008, 05:30:52 PM: Quote from: huntnphool on July 14, 2008, 05:20:14 PM
Quote from: bowhuntin on July 14, 2008, 05:09:49 PM
I thought 400 grains is minimum?

Its actually 300, check page 67 of your regs.
Yep, a buddy of mine thought it was 400 too, so we double checked.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: bowhuntin on July 14, 2008, 05:30:53 PM: Quote from: huntnphool on July 14, 2008, 05:20:14 PM
Quote from: bowhuntin on July 14, 2008, 05:09:49 PM
I thought 400 grains is minimum?

Its actually 300, check page 67 of your regs.

Your right :) my fault should have looked just to make sure.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: NoBark on July 16, 2008, 09:15:59 AM: You've got time to experiment with the 125's. My guess is the extra weight will not be that noticable to your pin settings, (you are already shooting plenty fast) and the extra wieght may help in penitration and arrow stabilization (FOC Weighting)
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: GoldTip on July 16, 2008, 02:51:34 PM: I am pretty sure the 400gr minimum is in Idaho.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: demontang on July 16, 2008, 03:02:31 PM: You will have to play with the alignment of the broad head to the vane and see which way flies better. As for broad heads its realy a matter shooting them to see how they fly for you. I have heard good things about G5 monotechs and wacum's. I have shot the crimson talons, 3blade muzzys and like them. Its realy up to you to try them and see.

That arrow going 250fps+ should do the job.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: Antlershed on July 16, 2008, 06:34:25 PM: I bought some 100gr Wackem's today to try out. I shot my bow tonight with a buddy's arrows that are a bit too long for me and it shot pretty good. I will be shooting my arrows tomorrow, so hopefully all goes well.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: actionshooter on July 16, 2008, 09:05:24 PM: Antlershed, I see your from Tenino, theres an archery shop in Rainier, can't remember the name. Its out of a guys home just outside of town. The number is 446-5632
Hope that helps
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: Antlershed on July 16, 2008, 09:30:23 PM: Quote from: actionshooter on July 16, 2008, 09:05:24 PM
Antlershed, I see your from Tenino, theres an archery shop in Rainier, can't remember the name. Its out of a guys home just outside of town. The number is 446-5632
Hope that helps
Are you talking about Fletch Setter? He apparently has an actual shop now, but I don't want to shoot around a bunch of people who are drinking... :twocents:
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: actionshooter on July 16, 2008, 09:42:34 PM: Quote from: Antlershed on July 16, 2008, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: actionshooter on July 16, 2008, 09:05:24 PM
Antlershed, I see your from Tenino, theres an archery shop in Rainier, can't remember the name. Its out of a guys home just outside of town. The number is 446-5632
Hope that helps
Are you talking about Fletch Setter? He apparently has an actual shop now, but I don't want to shoot around a bunch of people who are drinking... :twocents:

Haven't seen that! I was out there once and the guy seemed like he knew what he was doing. We kinda have a lack of archery shop except for Cabelas and the whorehouse. :dunno:
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: Todd_ID on July 16, 2008, 10:37:54 PM: Lining up the broadhead with the fletch is not necessary for today's equipment. That came from the days of building your own cedar arrows and shooting a bow with no shelf. One of the single most important things to check is to make sure that the broadhead doesn't wobble on the shaft when you spin it. Roll it across a table or spin it on your fingernail. Watch the tip of the broadhead; if you see any wobble at all, then the arrow won't fly like you want.

My advice is to stay heavy if you're after elk. Deer are easy to kill with the lightest arrow made, but elk are just flat tough critters to take down. A quartering-away shot could need 16+" of penetration to get to the vitals and another 16" of vitals to cut through, and the lighter arrows just don't pack the momentum that a heavier one will.
Title: Re: Broadhead/Arrow Questions
Post by: Antlershed on July 16, 2008, 10:40:11 PM: Quote from: actionshooter on July 16, 2008, 09:42:34 PM
Quote from: Antlershed on July 16, 2008, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: actionshooter on July 16, 2008, 09:05:24 PM
Antlershed, I see your from Tenino, theres an archery shop in Rainier, can't remember the name. Its out of a guys home just outside of town. The number is 446-5632
Hope that helps
Are you talking about Fletch Setter? He apparently has an actual shop now, but I don't want to shoot around a bunch of people who are drinking... :twocents:

Haven't seen that! I was out there once and the guy seemed like he knew what he was doing. We kinda have a lack of archery shop except for Cabelas and the whorehouse. :dunno:
I have not seen it first hand, but I have been told by somebody who has been there that he allows people to drink beer while they are shooting.