Post by: Machias on December 07, 2011, 11:09:43 PM
Post by: bearpaw on December 07, 2011, 11:19:08 PM
Post by: bearpaw on December 07, 2011, 11:19:54 PM
Post by: Machias on December 07, 2011, 11:26:07 PM
Post by: bearpaw on December 07, 2011, 11:29:58 PM
FYI - My tracking collars all have a faint smell of skunk, my worst skunk dog has been dead for years, I can't beleive how long that odor lasts. :bash:
Post by: Machias on December 07, 2011, 11:33:17 PM
Yea I have a collar you get a whiff of skunk when it gets wet.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on December 08, 2011, 07:14:16 AM
The hound usually gets put in a kung fu headlock and gets cussed at the whole time while I wrestle with her. She doesn't bite, but is pretty dumb and sensitive. I guess she figures I'm out to kill her. :dunno:
Post by: runamuk on December 08, 2011, 07:21:46 AM
My cur will lay down and take the abuse when I'm pulling them. Last time she was actually wagging her tail! :P I work "sit and stay" commands A LOT at home.
The hound usually gets put in a kung fu headlock and gets cussed at the whole time while I wrestle with her. She doesn't bite, but is pretty dumb and sensitive. I guess she figures I'm out to kill her. :dunno:
the kung fu headlock :chuckle: :chuckle: that paints a picture growing up the neighbors had a dog that was magnetically attracted to porkies I think....darn dog always seemed to be getting quills pulled out of its face
Post by: HornHoarder on December 08, 2011, 07:31:47 AM
Post by: bigdave on December 08, 2011, 08:22:41 AM
I had a Lab (family dog, not a hunter) that dearly loved to grab and shake any live animal she could get her mouth around. Luckily, she would just sit there and tremble when I pulled quills. It is a STANDING RULE to check the yard before you let the dog out at our house.
Sound like you should keep a little something in the fridge for occassions such as these to relax him a bit. (If you can find a vet that would give it to you)
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on December 08, 2011, 08:34:02 AM
Post by: Machias on December 08, 2011, 08:37:21 AM
I had a female bluetick, best lion hound I have ever had, I ended up having to sell her to a guy in Utah for $2500. She caught 19 lions for him one winter, but they have very few quill pigs. If I free casted her for coons about every fourth time she would come back with her face and mouth just jammed packed with quills. I had to take her to the vet everytime. After the fourth time and $350 each visit later, she had to go down the road or was going to be treeing lions in heaven!
Post by: Machias on December 08, 2011, 08:38:13 AM
Post by: quadrafire on December 08, 2011, 09:39:01 AM
Most if not all the dogs I have seen that have had quills pulled with the ol' leatherman or pliers at home or field end up very head shy. I would think the first time you might get away with it after that, unless it is a VERY tolerant dog, probably not so much. As bad as it sounds, Heavy sedation or anesthesia is usually needed, IMO to avoid that face/head shyness. Unfortunately if it happens multiple times it can get spendy.To my knowlege there is no product that works consistenly (safely) that would allow for easy/consistent home or field care.
PS I would say most dogs do not learn from the pain of the first experience. If they are curious animals they will sniff the PP and the natural defense/reflex is to smack that tail and back quills toward the offender. That is why you always see them in the nose. Now if the dog gets Pissed (like the one with the full facial) that is when you have problems.
I hate quills.
Post by: bow-n-head on January 02, 2012, 03:58:48 PM
Post by: bearpaw on January 02, 2012, 04:14:44 PM
Post by: Machias on January 02, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
Tritronics is good for training, but it seems most of those dogs that hate porkies just get worse with age.
:yeah:
Post by: buckhorn2 on January 02, 2012, 06:14:04 PM
Post by: quadrafire on January 02, 2012, 06:23:00 PM
I don't know how to get quills out but I know how not too. I was reading outdoor life and they had a tips for hunters section. It said if your dog gets quills in it;s face just tie a rope around his waist and toss it over a rafter in the garage and pull him up high enough to pull the quills out. When I lifted my german shorthair up he turned into a pitbull and almost tore my shirt off before I let him down then we went to the vets.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
and the ER. Wish I had video of that exchange!
Post by: wildweeds on January 02, 2012, 06:37:42 PM
I've always just talked to them as I worked on them. I know a few guys who have went to the vet and gotten a light drug that puts them half groggy but not to sleep and that helps, sorry I can't remember the name of it, but I bet your vet would know.