Post by: Bowchopps on December 08, 2011, 12:36:23 PM
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Post by: benhuntin on December 08, 2011, 03:52:35 PM
Saw a huge wolf track when I was hunting near Swauk Prairie yesterday; they're out there!Saw a big track up there on thanksgivin
Post by: Bowchopps on December 08, 2011, 04:06:39 PM
Post by: canyelk48 on December 08, 2011, 05:31:04 PM
Can we see this picture of the track?No pictures; all 3 of us forgot to bring our cell phone/cameras. Way to big to be a dog's tracks unless someone's Mastiff is running around loose in the mountains! I used to own Anatolian Shepherds and the tracks were larger than theirs.
Post by: runamuk on December 08, 2011, 05:51:54 PM
I wonder if tenannway pack went cross Hwy I-90 :sry: To Elk winter range east side of Elk Height. :bash:
I didnt see any wolves or wolf sign over there but I did see a cougar, right in the center of those pasturing areas...it was on private ground but it was pretty dang content to take a siesta in damn near the middle of a field, I figured it had a kill in the brush nearby :dunno:
Post by: Elkohol on December 08, 2011, 06:45:38 PM
Can we see this picture of the track?No pictures; all 3 of us forgot to bring our cell phone/cameras. Way to big to be a dog's tracks unless someone's Mastiff is running around loose in the mountains! I used to own Anatolian Shepherds and the tracks were larger than theirs.
Im not doubting at all i was just curious, its entirely possible. Its gonna be a sad sight when the wolves find the big herds at the feeding stations....
Post by: mallard79 on December 08, 2011, 07:15:02 PM
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Post by: colockumelk on December 09, 2011, 11:23:16 AM
The wolves are going to kill elk regardless. So if they are gonna do it I would rather have them do it in sight of non-hunters and all the wildlife viewers than up in the middle of nowhere where their acts can't be seen. Trust me if the wolves are going to kill elk we want it seen by as many people as possible. :twocents:
Post by: Gringo31 on December 09, 2011, 11:36:40 AM
I here what you are saying but I would bet a dollar that they would be very excited to see such a "rare" sight. How "majestic" and thank you DOW for blah, blah, blah. According to DOW, the tourism dollars because of wolves is going to be big :bash: :bash: :bash:
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 09, 2011, 11:46:28 AM
Post by: colockumelk on December 09, 2011, 12:43:51 PM
Colockumelk,
I here what you are saying but I would bet a dollar that they would be very excited to see such a "rare" sight. How "majestic" and thank you DOW for blah, blah, blah. According to DOW, the tourism dollars because of wolves is going to be big :bash: :bash: :bash:
I think that you are correct. In that the wolf lovers would definately love to see this. But we will never convince the wolf lovers that wolves are bad. Its the majority of people who don't know. And I bet when a bunch of wolves singles out a calf and takes it down in a horrific fasion and the people can hear the calves cries for help and pain, and when they see the wolves start to eat on the calf while its still alive. This will change alot of minds fast. Again its not the wolf lovers its the majority of people who are neutral that we need to convince.
And Plateau I don't think comparing a wild animal to Tribal Members if a fair comparison. You can't control the actions of a wild animal but you can control the actions of people. Also the WDFW isn't going to applaud this action. Its all the wolf anti-hunting hippies that would applaud the wolf kills. And I think the WDFW would do something especially when there isnt' any elk coming down to the feed stations. Unfortunately I don't know how much power the WDFW has in controlling wolves. I think there's some bigger players controlling that. But the Tribes do have the power to control its members from killing elk in or around the feeding stations. Again I don't think its a fair comparison.
Post by: Dipsnort on December 15, 2011, 01:12:23 PM
Gringo has a point. Many of the "neutral folks" may be turned off by the sight of a wolf killing an elk but many others will see it as the natural course of things (which it is) and understand that the wolf is simply doing what all other animals do--find food and eat.Colockumelk,
I here what you are saying but I would bet a dollar that they would be very excited to see such a "rare" sight. How "majestic" and thank you DOW for blah, blah, blah. According to DOW, the tourism dollars because of wolves is going to be big :bash: :bash: :bash:
I think that you are correct. In that the wolf lovers would definately love to see this. But we will never convince the wolf lovers that wolves are bad. Its the majority of people who don't know. And I bet when a bunch of wolves singles out a calf and takes it down in a horrific fasion and the people can hear the calves cries for help and pain, and when they see the wolves start to eat on the calf while its still alive. This will change alot of minds fast. Again its not the wolf lovers its the majority of people who are neutral that we need to convince.
My guess is that generally non-hunters would be happier if a dead elk (deer, moose, etc.) were going to feed a wolf (cougar, coyote, etc.) than a person who could buy their food from the grocery store.
As hunters, you and I want to maximize opportunities to harvest game animals by keeping populations of other predators low. But most people aren't hunters and many (perhaps most) of them don't believe in slanting the "circle of life" in favor of hunters the way you and I do.
By all appearances the WDFW wants to increase wolf numbers. Eventually, probably in the not too distant future, the wolves are sure to expand their range further and take advantage of opportunities like elk feeding stations. We can only hope that at a reasonable point in time wolf numbers will be seen by the decision makers as being sufficient to allow hunter harvest so we can help control numbers the way we control the numbers of any other animal we hunt.
Post by: Elkohol on December 15, 2011, 01:53:07 PM