Post by: fireguy459 on December 08, 2011, 04:38:56 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 08, 2011, 04:40:39 PM
Post by: PolarBear on December 08, 2011, 04:41:19 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 08, 2011, 04:45:52 PM
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This appears to be a big issue... any thoughts?
Yes- you might consider sitting about 100 yards down wind from the carcasses and shooting coyotes off of them. :dunno:
Post by: fireguy459 on December 08, 2011, 04:47:54 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 08, 2011, 04:51:07 PM
Pacific county. ... I don't want to jump to any conclusions but they were literally 200 yards apart .... seems like thrill killing. I completely understand cutbacks being a government employee but two elk? Hell one elk is too many. I have been stopped multiple times this year to check tags and make sure I am legal which is fine but lets spend some time figuring out what a$$hole is wasting Washington's resources. I hope they can catch the one bad apple.
:yeah: Also, it sounds like Bobcat has a pretty good idea. :tup:
Post by: coachcw on December 08, 2011, 07:47:47 PM
Post by: 400out on December 08, 2011, 08:47:52 PM
flock shooting ! the calf was probilly not the target .:yeah: maybe the bullet made it threw the first and hit the second :dunno: :dunno:
Post by: the1rod on December 08, 2011, 08:56:33 PM
Post by: 400out on December 08, 2011, 08:59:14 PM
were there signs that it was a rifle kill? or was it possible that the calf could have been a lost archery kill? if the season was even open?200 yards apart! really think inside the box! maybe hit by the same plane and fell into the freeay ant hit by a semi and land next to each other :dunno:
Post by: chester on December 08, 2011, 09:00:52 PM
were there signs that it was a rifle kill? or was it possible that the calf could have been a lost archery kill? if the season was even open?200 yards apart! really think inside the box! maybe hit by the same plane and fell into the freeay ant hit by a semi and land next to each other :dunno:
He didnt say they were on the same day tho. Could have been two from the same herd at different times.
Post by: the1rod on December 08, 2011, 09:07:59 PM
oh im sorry i didnt realize it was so *censored*ing terrible to ask for a little more information to see if there was a possibility that the world isnt a *censored* hole and everyone is a poacher or a liar (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherv.net%2Fcm%2Femo%2Frude%2F1%2Fflipping-the-bird.gif&hash=31084e74c99510dfb45056585992f5fc2bcef38d) (http://www.sherv.net/flipping.the.bird-emoticon-348.html)were there signs that it was a rifle kill? or was it possible that the calf could have been a lost archery kill? if the season was even open?200 yards apart! really think inside the box! maybe hit by the same plane and fell into the freeay ant hit by a semi and land next to each other :dunno:
Post by: rose673 on December 08, 2011, 09:55:51 PM
Post by: danderson on December 08, 2011, 11:02:14 PM
Post by: Bigbuckoholic on December 09, 2011, 06:57:07 AM
Post by: colockumelk on December 09, 2011, 09:28:52 AM
Pacific county. ... I don't want to jump to any conclusions but they were literally 200 yards apart .... seems like thrill killing. I completely understand cutbacks being a government employee but two elk? Hell one elk is too many. I have been stopped multiple times this year to check tags and make sure I am legal which is fine but lets spend some time figuring out what a$$hole is wasting Washington's resources. I hope they can catch the one bad apple.
You get checked because during the hunting season that's where all the game wardens are. Then when its not hunting season the game wardens have to go off and do other stuff. IMHO i would rather have the game wardens swarming the hills looking for poachers during December and January as this is when the MAJORITY of big game poaching occurs. Its when all the animals have come down out of the hills and are down low near the roads that they become more suseptible to easy kills by poachers. Also there is hardly any eyes in the woods. Whereas during hunting season there is ALOT of eyes in the woods all looking for poachers, and the animals are typically farther from the roads. I find it ironic that the WDFW spends most of its time checking hunters who 99% are law abiding and who are all looking for that 1% scumbag anyways so they can collect their points. Yet when the 99% of poaching occurs are not in the hills looking for the scumbags. :twocents: It seems from an enforcement perspective to catch the most amount of poachers you would want to be in the hills when the bad guys are most likely to be there.
During December most of the game wardens I have found are near the rivers checking to make sure I didn't shoot too many ducks or geese and that I don't have lead, and that I have my proper stamps. Meanwhile some d-bag is up in the Quilomene or up in the Umptanum in the Sagebrush killing a big bull. :twocents:
Post by: bobcat on December 09, 2011, 09:35:29 AM
You get checked because during the hunting season that's where all the game wardens are. Then when its not hunting season the game wardens have to go off and do other stuff. IMHO i would rather have the game wardens swarming the hills looking for poachers during December and January as this is when the MAJORITY of big game poaching occurs. Its when all the animals have come down out of the hills and are down low near the roads that they become more suseptible to easy kills by poachers. Also there is hardly any eyes in the woods. Whereas during hunting season there is ALOT of eyes in the woods all looking for poachers, and the animals are typically farther from the roads. I find it ironic that the WDFW spends most of its time checking hunters who 99% are law abiding and who are all looking for that 1% scumbag anyways so they can collect their points. Yet when the 99% of poaching occurs are not in the hills looking for the scumbags. :twocents: It seems from an enforcement perspective to catch the most amount of poachers you would want to be in the hills when the bad guys are most likely to be there.
During December most of the game wardens I have found are near the rivers checking to make sure I didn't shoot too many ducks or geese and that I don't have lead, and that I have my proper stamps. Meanwhile some d-bag is up in the Quilomene or up in the Umptanum in the Sagebrush killing a big bull. :twocents:
I couldn't agree more! Seems all they want to do is go where they can write the most tickets. But for small violations by mostly honest hunters. Like you said, they should be out in the woods AFTER hunting season (modern firearm) is over. If they're going to be out there during modern fiream season, it should be at night, when the poaching is happening. Who cares if someone forgets to put on their orange, or shoots a deer 1 minute before legal time?
Post by: PolarBear on December 09, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
Post by: bigtex on December 10, 2011, 07:25:47 PM
Pacific county. ... I don't want to jump to any conclusions but they were literally 200 yards apart .... seems like thrill killing. I completely understand cutbacks being a government employee but two elk? Hell one elk is too many. I have been stopped multiple times this year to check tags and make sure I am legal which is fine but lets spend some time figuring out what a$$hole is wasting Washington's resources. I hope they can catch the one bad apple.
You get checked because during the hunting season that's where all the game wardens are. Then when its not hunting season the game wardens have to go off and do other stuff. IMHO i would rather have the game wardens swarming the hills looking for poachers during December and January as this is when the MAJORITY of big game poaching occurs. Its when all the animals have come down out of the hills and are down low near the roads that they become more suseptible to easy kills by poachers. Also there is hardly any eyes in the woods. Whereas during hunting season there is ALOT of eyes in the woods all looking for poachers, and the animals are typically farther from the roads. I find it ironic that the WDFW spends most of its time checking hunters who 99% are law abiding and who are all looking for that 1% scumbag anyways so they can collect their points. Yet when the 99% of poaching occurs are not in the hills looking for the scumbags. :twocents: It seems from an enforcement perspective to catch the most amount of poachers you would want to be in the hills when the bad guys are most likely to be there.
During December most of the game wardens I have found are near the rivers checking to make sure I didn't shoot too many ducks or geese and that I don't have lead, and that I have my proper stamps. Meanwhile some d-bag is up in the Quilomene or up in the Umptanum in the Sagebrush killing a big bull. :twocents:
Patrols occur in the woods year round. What people need to understand is there are no longer two distinct enforcement operations for fisheries enforcement and wildlife enforcement. Prior to the creation of WDFW there were Wildlife Agents and Fisheries Officers. Wildlife mainly did wildlife enforcement, fisheries mainly did fisheries, they had the authority to do both types and during busy times they would help each other out. During this time Wildlife Agents also had more on their plates in terms of biological work done. The merger in 1994 created WDFW and thus we have Fish AND Wildlife Officers, many people forget the “and” part. So the officer that checked you deer hunting today could be working crabbers tomorrow, trout fishermen the next day, and commercial salmon fishing next week. WDFW Officers also have to enforce a lot of laws people don’t really think about such as pet stores, taxidermists, habitat violations, and, aquatic invasive species. There are several ways to determine where an officer will work in a given day, if I were to explain it I would be here for days but I will say that it is not to make the most contacts or tickets, because if that was so then we wouldn’t have officers patrolling areas such as watershed areas where nobody should be.
Post by: JLS on December 10, 2011, 07:51:19 PM
You get checked because during the hunting season that's where all the game wardens are. Then when its not hunting season the game wardens have to go off and do other stuff. IMHO i would rather have the game wardens swarming the hills looking for poachers during December and January as this is when the MAJORITY of big game poaching occurs. Its when all the animals have come down out of the hills and are down low near the roads that they become more suseptible to easy kills by poachers. Also there is hardly any eyes in the woods. Whereas during hunting season there is ALOT of eyes in the woods all looking for poachers, and the animals are typically farther from the roads. I find it ironic that the WDFW spends most of its time checking hunters who 99% are law abiding and who are all looking for that 1% scumbag anyways so they can collect their points. Yet when the 99% of poaching occurs are not in the hills looking for the scumbags. :twocents: It seems from an enforcement perspective to catch the most amount of poachers you would want to be in the hills when the bad guys are most likely to be there.
During December most of the game wardens I have found are near the rivers checking to make sure I didn't shoot too many ducks or geese and that I don't have lead, and that I have my proper stamps. Meanwhile some d-bag is up in the Quilomene or up in the Umptanum in the Sagebrush killing a big bull. :twocents:
I couldn't agree more! Seems all they want to do is go where they can write the most tickets. But for small violations by mostly honest hunters. Like you said, they should be out in the woods AFTER hunting season (modern firearm) is over. If they're going to be out there during modern fiream season, it should be at night, when the poaching is happening. Who cares if someone forgets to put on their orange, or shoots a deer 1 minute before legal time?
Because no one ever kills a deer illegally during the day during hunting season? Already used their tag? Killed a 2 point? Have an archery tag and used a rifle?
C'mon.
Post by: JLS on December 10, 2011, 07:54:02 PM
Pacific county. ... I don't want to jump to any conclusions but they were literally 200 yards apart .... seems like thrill killing. I completely understand cutbacks being a government employee but two elk? Hell one elk is too many. I have been stopped multiple times this year to check tags and make sure I am legal which is fine but lets spend some time figuring out what a$$hole is wasting Washington's resources. I hope they can catch the one bad apple.
You get checked because during the hunting season that's where all the game wardens are. Then when its not hunting season the game wardens have to go off and do other stuff. IMHO i would rather have the game wardens swarming the hills looking for poachers during December and January as this is when the MAJORITY of big game poaching occurs. Its when all the animals have come down out of the hills and are down low near the roads that they become more suseptible to easy kills by poachers. Also there is hardly any eyes in the woods. Whereas during hunting season there is ALOT of eyes in the woods all looking for poachers, and the animals are typically farther from the roads. I find it ironic that the WDFW spends most of its time checking hunters who 99% are law abiding and who are all looking for that 1% scumbag anyways so they can collect their points. Yet when the 99% of poaching occurs are not in the hills looking for the scumbags. :twocents: It seems from an enforcement perspective to catch the most amount of poachers you would want to be in the hills when the bad guys are most likely to be there.
During December most of the game wardens I have found are near the rivers checking to make sure I didn't shoot too many ducks or geese and that I don't have lead, and that I have my proper stamps. Meanwhile some d-bag is up in the Quilomene or up in the Umptanum in the Sagebrush killing a big bull. :twocents:
As a duck hunter I'm glad they are out there checking the rivers. As an elk hunter, I realize they cannot be everywhere at once.
Post by: bobcat on December 10, 2011, 07:59:59 PM
You get checked because during the hunting season that's where all the game wardens are. Then when its not hunting season the game wardens have to go off and do other stuff. IMHO i would rather have the game wardens swarming the hills looking for poachers during December and January as this is when the MAJORITY of big game poaching occurs. Its when all the animals have come down out of the hills and are down low near the roads that they become more suseptible to easy kills by poachers. Also there is hardly any eyes in the woods. Whereas during hunting season there is ALOT of eyes in the woods all looking for poachers, and the animals are typically farther from the roads. I find it ironic that the WDFW spends most of its time checking hunters who 99% are law abiding and who are all looking for that 1% scumbag anyways so they can collect their points. Yet when the 99% of poaching occurs are not in the hills looking for the scumbags. :twocents: It seems from an enforcement perspective to catch the most amount of poachers you would want to be in the hills when the bad guys are most likely to be there.
During December most of the game wardens I have found are near the rivers checking to make sure I didn't shoot too many ducks or geese and that I don't have lead, and that I have my proper stamps. Meanwhile some d-bag is up in the Quilomene or up in the Umptanum in the Sagebrush killing a big bull. :twocents:
I couldn't agree more! Seems all they want to do is go where they can write the most tickets. But for small violations by mostly honest hunters. Like you said, they should be out in the woods AFTER hunting season (modern firearm) is over. If they're going to be out there during modern fiream season, it should be at night, when the poaching is happening. Who cares if someone forgets to put on their orange, or shoots a deer 1 minute before legal time?
Because no one ever kills a deer illegally during the day during hunting season? Already used their tag? Killed a 2 point? Have an archery tag and used a rifle?
C'mon.
Sure. It's good that they're out there but I just wish they were out there more. My feeling is that if all of enforcement's time is spent during the day writing tickets for no orange and loaded guns in vehicles, how much enforcement is being done at night? Or before hunting season starts? Or after hunting season ends? It seems to me that if modern firearm deer or elk season is not happening, then they are only checking fisherman or waterfowl hunters.
Post by: JLS on December 10, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
Post by: seth30 on December 10, 2011, 08:11:07 PM
Post by: colockumelk on December 10, 2011, 08:29:52 PM
And JLS I know laws are broken during hunting season. Ut I'm not really overly concerned about tje guy who accidently shot a 2pt in a 3pt min area. I'm a lot more worried about the thrill killers and the guys harvesting multiple trophy animals in the wintering grounds.
Post by: PolarBear on December 10, 2011, 08:36:05 PM
Can you do ride alongs with the WDFW?Yes you can. Iv'e been on a couple and have a standing offer to do another. They can be really fun or boring as helll.
Post by: seth30 on December 10, 2011, 08:38:44 PM
SOunds like a normal ride along then :tup: I have only met one game warden, and he turned out to be pretty cool, even told me where he had been seeing bears at. Thanks for the info!Can you do ride alongs with the WDFW?Yes you can. Iv'e been on a couple and have a standing offer to do another. They can be really fun or boring as helll.
Post by: JLS on December 10, 2011, 08:43:14 PM
So if half a dozen two points are "accidentally shot" during hunting season, primarily on opening day, doesn't that pretty well equal one hell of a thrill kill spree? This whole idea of not caring about "accidental kills" just blows me away. How do you justify that? If everyone knows the game warden won't be out during the day because he's working nights, how many folks will try to sneak a 2 point home when that's all they can find? That same guy that shoots the 2 point will be the same guy who shoots a cow or a branch bull during elk season.
One of my best friends is a game warden in another state. I think a lot of you guys are pretty naive as to what the world looks like from the eyes of a game warden. If it's summer, they work fishermen and the deer hunters complain because they aren't working spotlighters. During deer season, they work hunters and the fishermen complain because they are working the rivers. During the winter, they work duck and bird hunters while the deer hunters complain because they aren't working spotlighters.
It's all important work, and the issue comes down to staffing. I dare you to show me one wildlife agency that is adequately staffed with law enforcement. You won't do it. They are left to do the best they can, which is to focus their efforts on balancing activities that have high use periods and doing other stuff like night patrols.
He tells me that he checks people all the time who have been hunting or fishing for 20-30 years, and they'll tell him this is the first time they've been checked. So just because you don't see them doesn't mean the game warden isn't out there.
Post by: colockumelk on December 10, 2011, 09:22:47 PM
Go ahead I gave you a bunch more stuff to twist and spin or exagerate. Flame on :chuckle:
Post by: JLS on December 10, 2011, 09:48:48 PM
Post by: Gundy on December 10, 2011, 10:28:16 PM
Post by: colockumelk on December 11, 2011, 06:33:31 AM
Gunshot is 100% correct. The only thing that stops me from killing a trophy bull or buck every year is my morals. The WDFW doesn't stop me. Chances of getting caught is next to zero. Not enough enforcement is why. (Budget crises so more enforcement isn't gonna happen). And I still hold firm that tje game watermelon need a stronger presence in the mts during poaching season. And tje only way and best way to curb poaching is road closures. But thats another topic entirely.
Post by: bigtex on December 11, 2011, 09:42:19 AM
What many people don't understand is WDFW is mandated to work a certain number of hours of enforcement, and that is one way to determine a patrol day, very rarely anymore does an officer just wake up and go "hmm I wonder what I'll do today". There is a big focus right now on commercial fisheries enforcement simply because a large scale commercial violation can impact an entire run more so then Jim Bob out fishing in his dingy. Habitat violations can kill an entire run of fish, but yet there really isn't a whole lot of glory in that is there? Are officers patrolling winter range? Yes they are, simply because you don't see them doesn't mean they weren't there yesterday or will be there tomorrow.
Post by: JLS on December 11, 2011, 10:51:30 AM
Again JLS show me where I said that game wardens should not be up patrolling during hunting season.
What are you talking about?
I know for a fact that the game wardens where I live spend a lot of time doing night patrols, and a fair bit of time out in the hills during the winter months. I cannot speak to where you live. Maybe you should ask them?
I'm not going to argue ducks vs. elk with you. I don't have quantitative numbers on current poaching impacts to either resource, if you do I'd love to see them.
Post by: fireguy459 on December 11, 2011, 02:09:46 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 11, 2011, 02:28:41 PM
Maybe we could tax tribal casinos for increased enforcement officers? Sorry stirring the pot.... keep the arguments going.The funds would just get raided and diverted to a program like needles for junkies, hugs for convicts, medical mary jane, cars for illegals, etc. You know, the stuff king county thinks is really important.
Post by: Fowlweather25 on December 28, 2011, 09:34:20 PM
Post by: Seabeckian on December 28, 2011, 11:09:19 PM
I had a Fish and Wildlife Officer hike over a mile in to where we were duck hunting one time just to check our tags and equipment. Personally that's the sort of enforcement I love to see. The fact that he went the extra mile to check us when he had no inclination to believe we were doing anything illegal, I thought was really cool. Makes a guy think he is always being watched, and ergo more vigilant to obey the rules and regulations.
Post by: bigtex on December 28, 2011, 11:23:41 PM
Bigtex, curious as to if you know how effective the text number is for reporting poachers? Or anyone that has had any experience with that avenue of reporting a violation?
Great question.
The texting info is sent to WILDCOMM which is WDFW's Enforcement Dispatch/Communication Center. This is the location you are calling when you call the poaching hotline. So the same people that answer the Poaching Hotline are getting the text tips.
Here is the problem. WILDCOMM is only operable Mon-Fri 8A-5P excluding holidays. Many people do not know this, even though it says it in black and white in hunting and fishing regs. Outside of those hours you must either call 911 or the local WSP Office (numbers are in the regs). So if you sent a text at 5:05 PM on a Friday nobody will read it until 8AM monday, the same goes for if you call the Poaching Hotline at 5:05 on Friday.
Read the poaching section in the regs! It tells you who to call when! The Poaching Hotline is NOT 24/7/365!
Post by: Seabeckian on December 29, 2011, 03:36:00 AM
Post by: Lcl 66 Tinner on December 29, 2011, 08:55:17 AM
Bigtex, curious as to if you know how effective the text number is for reporting poachers? Or anyone that has had any experience with that avenue of reporting a violation?
Great question.
The texting info is sent to WILDCOMM which is WDFW's Enforcement Dispatch/Communication Center. This is the location you are calling when you call the poaching hotline. So the same people that answer the Poaching Hotline are getting the text tips.
Here is the problem. WILDCOMM is only operable Mon-Fri 8A-5P excluding holidays. Many people do not know this, even though it says it in black and white in hunting and fishing regs. Outside of those hours you must either call 911 or the local WSP Office (numbers are in the regs). So if you sent a text at 5:05 PM on a Friday nobody will read it until 8AM monday, the same goes for if you call the Poaching Hotline at 5:05 on Friday.
Read the poaching section in the regs! It tells you who to call when! The Poaching Hotline is NOT 24/7/365!
[/quote I called the WSP this year for poaching activity. First I called the centralia office and the olympia to get the message that the number is no longer in service.
Post by: Wildsau on December 29, 2011, 11:15:43 AM
We, as hunters, should be taking a more active approach at this problem, than just complaining on this forum. WDFW has a lot of ways to be contacted and if you e-mail evidence to them, after hours on a Friday, they will read it and act on it on Monday morning. I know of no WDFW Officer who doesn't feel like we do about what is going on. If we can gather good evidence photos for them and convince those, in Olympia, who want to cut bugets so much, not to cut the WDFW budget and hire more officers, I am sure things would improve a great deal.
I am not an advocate for being a "Stool-Pigeon" (most especially if it was to feed a poor family, and everything was used), but I do believe the poaching has gotten way too far out of hand and needs to be brought under control. We, as hunters, can do our part to help. If we see this sort of thing taking place, we should not be 'dumb' enough to interfer, but take a lot of pictures and notes, and report it to the WDFW. Just the thought that someone might be seeing what is going on, may stop a large portion of those doing it. The others, need to be caught a pay the penalty.
Post by: TheHunt on December 29, 2011, 11:28:57 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 29, 2011, 01:42:05 PM
We, as hunters, should be taking a more active approach at this problem, than just complaining on this forum.
And who says we aren't?
Post by: Wildsau on December 29, 2011, 01:49:21 PM
Post by: colockumelk on December 29, 2011, 08:32:12 PM
What, also, helps the WDFW Officers is that, little known, invention; the camera. If you are out, you should have a small pocket camera in your pocket. Most of them will zoom in and make great evidence pictures of the "scumbags" that are "Thrill Hunting" or "Trophy Hunting" out of season. Also, evidence, like the headless bull or the calf, can only help the officers. These cameras start for, as little as, $20.00 and are worth their weight in gold.
We, as hunters, should be taking a more active approach at this problem, than just complaining on this forum. WDFW has a lot of ways to be contacted and if you e-mail evidence to them, after hours on a Friday, they will read it and act on it on Monday morning. I know of no WDFW Officer who doesn't feel like we do about what is going on. If we can gather good evidence photos for them and convince those, in Olympia, who want to cut bugets so much, not to cut the WDFW budget and hire more officers, I am sure things would improve a great deal.
I am not an advocate for being a "Stool-Pigeon" (most especially if it was to feed a poor family, and everything was used), but I do believe the poaching has gotten way too far out of hand and needs to be brought under control. We, as hunters, can do our part to help. If we see this sort of thing taking place, we should not be 'dumb' enough to interfer, but take a lot of pictures and notes, and report it to the WDFW. Just the thought that someone might be seeing what is going on, may stop a large portion of those doing it. The others, need to be caught a pay the penalty.
:yeah:
Post by: Oldtrader3 on December 29, 2011, 08:49:05 PM
Poaching will never go away. Is it even poaching if you dont get caught??? The Gamies are so few and the woods they be a many.... Lets just say if you aint poaching u aint tryin. LOL!! Seriously, what are the odds I get caught if I go out and pop a deer or elk in mid, oh lets sayyyyy Februrary??? I can attest to the fact that they are ZERO. Unless your an idiot, free meat is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezy to come by. Some of you "holier than thowers" are classic.
No, you are a classic!
Post by: ICEMAN on December 29, 2011, 08:53:30 PM
Poaching will never go away. Is it even poaching if you dont get caught??? The Gamies are so few and the woods they be a many.... Lets just say if you aint poaching u aint tryin. LOL!! Seriously, what are the odds I get caught if I go out and pop a deer or elk in mid, oh lets sayyyyy Februrary??? I can attest to the fact that they are ZERO. Unless your an idiot, free meat is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezy to come by. Some of you "holier than thowers" are classic.
Are you admitting that you poach big game animals?
Post by: Seabeckian on December 29, 2011, 09:01:40 PM
My exact thought after his final sentence.
Post by: Fowlweather25 on December 30, 2011, 11:36:39 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 30, 2011, 11:41:53 AM
Poaching will never go away. Is it even poaching if you dont get caught??? The Gamies are so few and the woods they be a many.... Lets just say if you aint poaching u aint tryin. LOL!! Seriously, what are the odds I get caught if I go out and pop a deer or elk in mid, oh lets sayyyyy Februrary??? I can attest to the fact that they are ZERO. Unless your an idiot, free meat is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezy to come by. Some of you "holier than thowers" are classic.
You're just what people think of when they have a negative impression of hunters. Congratulations. I'm out in the woods in February. Hope to see you.
Post by: Fowlweather25 on December 30, 2011, 11:49:01 AM
Post by: mrmoskillz on December 30, 2011, 12:55:44 PM
Post by: Dslayer on December 31, 2011, 07:15:14 PM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on December 31, 2011, 07:21:30 PM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on December 31, 2011, 07:40:04 PM
Poaching will never go away. Is it even poaching if you dont get caught??? The Gamies are so few and the woods they be a many.... Lets just say if you aint poaching u aint tryin. LOL!! Seriously, what are the odds I get caught if I go out and pop a deer or elk in mid, oh lets sayyyyy Februrary??? I can attest to the fact that they are ZERO. Unless your an idiot, free meat is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezy to come by. Some of you "holier than thowers" are classic.
We may want to consider sarcasm. But hmmmm, he is a Coug???? Nope, I'm full of ch!t..he's an Eagle. But it still could be sarcasm
Post by: Dslayer on December 31, 2011, 07:52:07 PM
That's what it's going to take, folks who give a damn standing up to do something about it. Like I said, I don't plan to go out there and go Wild West, I'm just going to get into a spot where I can take license plates #'s down, pictures, etc., and help out the people who can bust these guys. Other than the fact that these guys are getting away with killing animals, they're making it dangerous for the rest to be out there. This is a prime spot that my kids and I like to go to see wildlife this time of year, right now we're getting in some hellacious walks in with the lack of snow, we got in about 12-14 miles in today. My kids were incensed with what they saw today.