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Title: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: grundy53 on December 08, 2011, 06:10:57 PM
Is there anywhere relatively close to purchase them or is easier to get them online? Just curious.
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: DUGANDEER on December 08, 2011, 06:15:10 PM
Online would probably be the way to go. Hastle free!   :twocents:
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 08, 2011, 06:17:02 PM
Ebay has some on there that seem pretty fair priced :tup:
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: sirmissalot on December 09, 2011, 08:48:57 AM
Ebay has some on there that seem pretty fair priced :tup:

 :yeah:

I've bought from ebay before and been happy with them.
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: KillBilly on December 09, 2011, 09:12:44 AM
Here is where I bought My beetles. I found that I got a larger quantity for less money from this place. Even though it's in alaska, he ships then quickly and they arrive in good shape.

http://www.bonesandbugs.com/ (http://www.bonesandbugs.com/)
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: inchtowntracking on December 09, 2011, 10:04:53 AM
Here is where I bought My beetles. I found that I got a larger quantity for less money from this place. Even though it's in alaska, he ships then quickly and they arrive in good shape.

http://www.bonesandbugs.com/ (http://www.bonesandbugs.com/)


This is supposed to be the go to guy. Hear a lot of people that are very happy with his beetles.
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: KillBilly on December 09, 2011, 11:34:57 AM
The bonesand bugs site has all the info you need to care for them.
Substrate:
Add an inch of shredded paper or commercial mammal bedding  (available at pet stores) to the floor of the container.  (Do not use any cedar based product, such as wood shavings, as cedar is a natural insecticide!)  Many folks use cotton wadding from an old mattress, as this makes an ideal substrate for the beetles to live in.  Don’t be concerned if this seems like Spartan conditions; the beetles don’t need a great deal to be happy.  Add numerous fist sized chunks of styrofoam, as this is the material the larvae will burrow into to grow and pupate into beetles.  Keep adding styrofoam as the beetles reduce it to shreds! The beetles will create "frass", a powdery combination of their waste product and chewed up styrofoam. When the frass becomes deeper than several inches, or begins to become damp or cake, scoop half out, place in a shallow pan and place some meat on one side of the pan to lure out the beetles and larvae. Replace the beetles and pitch the excess frass.
I posted this because I found the commercial mammal bedding  to be the easiest to deal with. Shredded paper will work but it likes to stick to the skulls and bones more than the substrate.

I have a 30 gallon tank I was using if you want it Josh... let me know.
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: grundy53 on December 09, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
The bonesand bugs site has all the info you need to care for them.
Substrate:
Add an inch of shredded paper or commercial mammal bedding  (available at pet stores) to the floor of the container.  (Do not use any cedar based product, such as wood shavings, as cedar is a natural insecticide!)  Many folks use cotton wadding from an old mattress, as this makes an ideal substrate for the beetles to live in.  Don’t be concerned if this seems like Spartan conditions; the beetles don’t need a great deal to be happy.  Add numerous fist sized chunks of styrofoam, as this is the material the larvae will burrow into to grow and pupate into beetles.  Keep adding styrofoam as the beetles reduce it to shreds! The beetles will create "frass", a powdery combination of their waste product and chewed up styrofoam. When the frass becomes deeper than several inches, or begins to become damp or cake, scoop half out, place in a shallow pan and place some meat on one side of the pan to lure out the beetles and larvae. Replace the beetles and pitch the excess frass.
I posted this because I found the commercial mammal bedding  to be the easiest to deal with. Shredded paper will work but it likes to stick to the skulls and bones more than the substrate.

I have a 30 gallon tank I was using if you want it Josh... let me know.

Thank you so much for the offer and advise. I really appreciate it. How bad is the smell? Could I keep Them in a garage or is it better to keep them in a back shed? Thanks again!
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: boneaddict on December 09, 2011, 02:03:27 PM
They STINK!
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: boneaddict on December 09, 2011, 02:04:04 PM
I got mine from Alaska too.
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 09, 2011, 04:35:58 PM
They STINK!

 :yeah: A LOT!!!!
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: turkey slayer on December 09, 2011, 07:59:39 PM
Yep they smell
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 09, 2011, 08:01:14 PM
Find someone who has them go visit and then make your choice!! Thats why I hire my euro's out!!   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: turkey slayer on December 09, 2011, 08:32:34 PM
How many are you looking for I be able to help
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: KillBilly on December 09, 2011, 08:50:57 PM
The beetles themselves don't smell. It will be the rotting meat/flesh, brains, etc, that smell. If ya got a weak stomach you might not like that process. Even Maceration will smell.
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: grundy53 on December 09, 2011, 08:52:15 PM
How many are you looking for I be able to help

More or less looking for next year. Already boiled my deer and elk. Thank you for the offer. That's really nice of you.  :tup:
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: grundy53 on December 09, 2011, 08:57:40 PM
The beetles themselves don't smell. It will be the rotting meat/flesh, brains, etc, that smell. If ya got a weak stomach you might not like that process. Even Maceration will smell.

I'm not worried about the smell for myself. I don't have a week stomach and smells don't bother me (most of the nerves in my nose are gone) .  but I am married  :chuckle: and am just wondering if If I could do it in a garage where she will frequant or if a back shed would be better.
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 09, 2011, 09:00:26 PM
there are other methods that do not stink ....but beetles definately do a nicer job !!
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: boneaddict on December 10, 2011, 06:17:34 AM
I started with them behind the garage and ended up moving them out to an abandoned bird pen DOWNWIND. 
Title: Re: Dermestid beetles?
Post by: Hunter Dug on December 10, 2011, 07:31:38 AM
I have mine in the garage.  They smell, If you go the garage route you may have to buy some new door jam seals on the door entrance to the residence so the smell dont seep into the house.  I currently have about 20 to 30 thousand bugs which will clean a deer skull in about 3 to 4 days.  So if you plan on just getting them to do you own skulls I would get them about (3 to 5 hundred) in like May so that they can reproduce into a nice colony by the time you need them.  PM me I have plenty if you need some no cost.  With that being said, I myself think Maceration is by far less work, and a hole lot easier.   :twocents:
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