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Title: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: BKMFR on December 12, 2011, 12:57:26 PM
Where are the largest Whitetail in the state?
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: colockumelk on December 12, 2011, 01:07:06 PM
You are new here and I remember what that was like.  I can't hunt in WA anymore so I have no problem giving up some info to some good hunting spots.  The area that has the biggest and most white tail bucks is hands down in this spot.  I have seen a couple bucks above the 200" mark.  No lie.  I bet I have seen easily 10-15 Boone and Crocket bucks in this area.  Here is the GPS coordinates.  Check it out.  You wont be sorry.   N 47° 03.762' W 122° 47.097'
 
Good luck and welcome to the site.  Oh another good spot although the bucks are not as big is anywhere around the Blue Mountains.  They also have ALOT of HUGE bulls there.  Biggest bulls in the state hands down. 
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 12, 2011, 01:07:29 PM
Gmu 204...
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: 270Shooter on December 12, 2011, 01:08:16 PM
In the woods
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 12, 2011, 01:09:19 PM
Welcome.
Nice first post.  :chuckle:

In the woods.
On private property.
All of which lie on the dry side.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 12, 2011, 01:09:41 PM
You are new here and I remember what that was like.  I can't hunt in WA anymore so I have no problem giving up some info to some good hunting spots.  The area that has the biggest and most white tail bucks is hands down in this spot.  I have seen a couple bucks above the 200" mark.  No lie.  I bet I have seen easily 10-15 Boone and Crocket bucks in this area.  Here is the GPS coordinates.  Check it out.  You wont be sorry.   N 47° 03.762' W 122° 47.097'
 
Good luck and welcome to the site.  Oh another good spot although the bucks are not as big is anywhere around the Blue Mountains.  They also have ALOT of HUGE bulls there.  Biggest bulls in the state hands down.

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: kckrawler on December 12, 2011, 01:10:48 PM
You are new here and I remember what that was like.  I can't hunt in WA anymore so I have no problem giving up some info to some good hunting spots.  The area that has the biggest and most white tail bucks is hands down in this spot.  I have seen a couple bucks above the 200" mark.  No lie.  I bet I have seen easily 10-15 Boone and Crocket bucks in this area.  Here is the GPS coordinates.  Check it out.  You wont be sorry.   N 47° 03.762' W 122° 47.097'
 
Good luck and welcome to the site.  Oh another good spot although the bucks are not as big is anywhere around the Blue Mountains.  They also have ALOT of HUGE bulls there.  Biggest bulls in the state hands down.

I heard from an old timer that there's elephants to be shot there as well... :dunno:
 :chuckle: :tup:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: colockumelk on December 12, 2011, 01:13:01 PM
Seriously man.  If you want to go where the big bucks are N 47° 03.762' W 122° 47.097'  is the place to go.  Go on google earth or maps and copy and paste these coordinates.  Lots of big bucks, oh and bulls too. 
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: h20hunter on December 12, 2011, 01:15:13 PM
C-Post in my opinion. Check the regs becuase the change up the any buck/ any deer dates during the seasons. Lots of access, plenty of deer. Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: BKMFR on December 12, 2011, 01:18:48 PM
Well I guess I was thinking that we could share some general areas, guess not..pretty sad.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: BIGINNER on December 12, 2011, 01:21:11 PM
Well I guess I was thinking that we could share some general areas, guess not..pretty sad.
:chuckle:
 :chuckle:
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: muzzlebuck on December 12, 2011, 01:23:08 PM
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Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: colockumelk on December 12, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
Well I guess I was thinking that we could share some general areas, guess not..pretty sad.

Dude what are you talking about.  I gave you GPS coordinates to a really good spot with alot of big bucks.  I don't know how I can share anymore than that.   :dunno:  If you want I can give you directions from where you live as well.   
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 12, 2011, 01:25:25 PM
Well I guess I was thinking that we could share some general areas, guess not..pretty sad.
Hmmmm, here, I used the search feature in the Deer Hunting section with the word "whitetail".
Came up with lots of stuff to share.  Got to the Deer Hunting section and type in the word whitetail in the search box in the upper left corner of the page.

Whatchya got to share in return?
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 12, 2011, 01:26:36 PM
h20hunter gave you place too.
Would you like gps coordinates for that place too?
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: h20hunter on December 12, 2011, 01:30:57 PM
We do share. I've gotten lots of good info. Shoot just yesterday I got boots on the ground "sharing time" with some joker named D-Rock. Shoot....he knows all about c-post and will back me up.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: colockumelk on December 12, 2011, 01:31:29 PM
I still have friends that go to that area sometimes and they might be pissed at me for giving this spot away.   :dunno:  I don't care.  I like to help people out.  Especially new people.  But if my spot isn't good enough for you then oh well.  Hopefully someone else will look up those coordinates and it will help them out.  Maybe someone will post pics of some monster WT buck because of my help.   :tup:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Woodchuck on December 12, 2011, 01:34:03 PM
You are new here and I remember what that was like.  I can't hunt in WA anymore so I have no problem giving up some info to some good hunting spots.  The area that has the biggest and most white tail bucks is hands down in this spot.  I have seen a couple bucks above the 200" mark.  No lie.  I bet I have seen easily 10-15 Boone and Crocket bucks in this area.  Here is the GPS coordinates.  Check it out.  You wont be sorry.   N 47° 03.762' W 122° 47.097'
 
Good luck and welcome to the site.  Oh another good spot although the bucks are not as big is anywhere around the Blue Mountains.  They also have ALOT of HUGE bulls there.  Biggest bulls in the state hands down.
This guy is full of puckey, if it is so great in the blues why is Colockum part of his handle? Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. 300 gmu's  ;)
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: colockumelk on December 12, 2011, 01:41:51 PM
Well I can promise you there are no white tail deer in the Colockum.  As far as woodchuck goes.  What do you think BMM stands for?  Blue Mountain Mafia.  Thats right.  Their gang of thugs try to use scare tactics to keep honest guys like myself and you out of their honey holes.  The toughtest part about filling your tag in the Blues is the drive there.  I can only take so many miles of nothing but wheatfields before I want to  :bash:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 12, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
Well I can promise you there are no white tail deer in the Colockum.  As far as woodchuck goes.  What do you think BMM stands for?  Blue Mountain Mafia.  Thats right.  Their gang of thugs try to use scare tactics to keep honest guys like myself and you out of their honey holes.  The toughtest part about filling your tag in the Blues is the drive there.  I can only take so many miles of nothing but wheatfields before I want to  :bash:

Pay no mind to these gentlemen they have thwarted the likes of new members for a long time and I can tell you this, trust no one there are deer and elk in the Colockum and Blues!  They are everywhere and the coordinates given are just a taste of what is in there! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: JohnVH on December 12, 2011, 01:58:44 PM
Well I guess I was thinking that we could share some general areas, guess not..pretty sad.

haha, just like a fishing forum, 99% wont say anything  ;)
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: bobcat on December 12, 2011, 02:01:31 PM
The largest whitetail deer are in units 117 and 121, due to the new 4 point minimum antler point restriction.   :stirthepot:

Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Woodchuck on December 12, 2011, 02:04:35 PM
A guy from Ellensburg griping about wheat fields. Again things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: buck man on December 12, 2011, 02:47:56 PM
The largest whitetail deer are in units 117 and 121, due to the new 4 point minimum antler point restriction.   :stirthepot:

Nah we shot all the big ones this year cause we HAD to let the little ones walk. Those we didn't shoot all ran to 113, 124,and 101 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Camp David on December 12, 2011, 06:34:43 PM
The largest whitetail deer are in units 117 and 121, due to the new 4 point minimum antler point restriction.   :stirthepot:

Nah we shot all the big ones this year cause we HAD to let the little ones walk. Those we didn't shoot all ran to 113, 124,and 101 :chuckle:

Must have been after I left...all I saw was does and spikes.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: colockumelk on December 12, 2011, 07:06:41 PM
Camp David you should check out my spot. All I see are bucks.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: bigpaw 77 on December 12, 2011, 07:10:38 PM
There are a few monsters on the land I hunt on. To bad I couldn't shoot straight this year.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Miles on December 13, 2011, 01:10:48 AM
Where are the largest Whitetail in the state?


Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge.

Lucky for you they are actually giving out free deer tags (valid for one whitetail in the 2012 season)  to first time posters here at Hunting-Washington.com.   You must call and give them your Wild ID number along with some personal information.   Hurry though, this offer is only valid for a 48 hour period after making your first post.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: colockumelk on December 13, 2011, 06:43:23 AM
Okay you asked where the biggest white tail bucks in WA state are.  You didn't specify alive or dead.  This is why I gave you these gps coordinates N 47° 03.762' W 122° 47.097'  because this place has in fact the LARGEST WT bucks in the state.  The Cabelas in Lacy has some huge studs in there.  The life size mounts are truley awesome.  You will be hard pressed to find another place that has so many Boone and Crockett bucks in a 100x100 foot area.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: twotone on December 13, 2011, 06:58:53 AM
i cant believe there is so many a--holes on one website  :bash: >:(
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Miles on December 13, 2011, 07:06:10 AM
i cant believe there is so many a--holes on one website  :bash: >:(


The a-holes are the ones who come here looking for handouts.  Those are the a-holes, not the people who refuse to give out their hunting spots to the world wide web.   


Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 13, 2011, 07:13:15 AM
Well I guess I was thinking that we could share some general areas, guess not..pretty sad.

I noticed your from Brewster. The area you are in is very good for deer, maybe not whitetails. Just put some miles on scouting.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: jackmaster on December 13, 2011, 07:22:11 AM
hey bkmfr, might help if ya tell everyone about yourself, i would help you out but but there is no way i could ever hunt whitetails when there are blacktails to be pursued, but the best way to find game is to put miles on as was stated before, scpot, scout and scout some more, good luck to ya and welcome to the sight, just remember when we have this big anti wolf rally at the govenors house or wherever it ends up make sure you get all your friends and come on out, otherwise i fear you wont have any whitetail to hunt in a few years...
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: h20hunter on December 13, 2011, 08:07:54 AM
i cant believe there is so many a--holes on one website  :bash: >:(



Aw shucks.....meanie!
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: 400out on December 13, 2011, 08:12:23 AM
 :nono:  :( No christmas presents for any of you! You know who's watching  :bdid:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: 400out on December 13, 2011, 08:13:41 AM
:nono:  :( No christmas presents for any of you! You know who's watching  :bdid:
Well maybe you clock, that was a stand up offer  :tup: I might have to check into that area! is it FFTH land  :dunno:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 13, 2011, 08:19:24 AM
I still have friends that go to that area sometimes and they might be pissed at me for giving this spot away.   :dunno:  I don't care.  I like to help people out.  Especially new people.  But if my spot isn't good enough for you then oh well.  Hopefully someone else will look up those coordinates and it will help them out.  Maybe someone will post pics of some monster WT buck because of my help.   :tup:

I've been right where Colock is talking about. Biggest critters I've seen anywhere.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Woodchuck on December 13, 2011, 08:20:51 AM
Some monster elk right there to.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 13, 2011, 08:24:32 AM
Some monster elk right there to.  :twocents:

Freakin' unbelievable elk.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: BKMFR on December 13, 2011, 08:25:51 AM
Definetly some jokers here, I hunt in Okanogan County, mainly the Northern part of the county to the Canadian border where we get our share of 150" class bucks, with a few 160-170" and I've been fortunate enough to be involved in a couple of outstanding Whitetails. I wasn't looking for anyones "Secret Honey Holes" just wondering if there was anyone serious on here that had an opinion on where they think the best of the best is. I am very familiar with getting out and scouting and creating my own outcome. I was thinking or hoping that we could converse about different opinions of where the biggest bucks are taken year in year out in Washington. Thank you to the ones that did and the jokers are truly a waste of time in my opinion, makes me wonder what type of people are on this site, I was hoping hunters helping hunters.....
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: h20hunter on December 13, 2011, 08:26:35 AM
Beyond freakin' unblievable whitetail......epic.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: bobcat on December 13, 2011, 08:29:12 AM
Definetly some jokers here, I hunt in Okanogan County, mainly the Northern part of the county to the Canadian border where we get our share of 150" class bucks, with a few 160-170" and I've been fortunate enough to be involved in a couple of outstanding Whitetails. I wasn't looking for anyones "Secret Honey Holes" just wondering if there was anyone serious on here that had an opinion on where they think the best of the best is. I am very familiar with getting out and scouting and creating my own outcome. I was thinking or hoping that we could converse about different opinions of where the biggest bucks are taken year in year out in Washington. Thank you to the ones that did and the jokers are truly a waste of time in my opinion, makes me wonder what type of people are on this site, I was hoping hunters helping hunters.....


Now there's a post worthy of an honest and well thought out response!  Your first post should have been more like this.

Welcome to the forum!

Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 13, 2011, 08:33:46 AM
Definetly some jokers here, I hunt in Okanogan County, mainly the Northern part of the county to the Canadian border where we get our share of 150" class bucks, with a few 160-170" and I've been fortunate enough to be involved in a couple of outstanding Whitetails. I wasn't looking for anyones "Secret Honey Holes" just wondering if there was anyone serious on here that had an opinion on where they think the best of the best is. I am very familiar with getting out and scouting and creating my own outcome. I was thinking or hoping that we could converse about different opinions of where the biggest bucks are taken year in year out in Washington. Thank you to the ones that did and the jokers are truly a waste of time in my opinion, makes me wonder what type of people are on this site, I was hoping hunters helping hunters.....


Now there's a post worthy of an honest and well thought out response!  Your first post should have been more like this.

Welcome to the forum!

Welcome to the forum. There are a lot of jokers in here and we have fun. Bring your sense of humor and you will too.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Dhoey07 on December 13, 2011, 08:45:22 AM
Definetly some jokers here, I hunt in Okanogan County, mainly the Northern part of the county to the Canadian border where we get our share of 150" class bucks, with a few 160-170" and I've been fortunate enough to be involved in a couple of outstanding Whitetails. I wasn't looking for anyones "Secret Honey Holes" just wondering if there was anyone serious on here that had an opinion on where they think the best of the best is. I am very familiar with getting out and scouting and creating my own outcome. I was thinking or hoping that we could converse about different opinions of where the biggest bucks are taken year in year out in Washington. Thank you to the ones that did and the jokers are truly a waste of time in my opinion, makes me wonder what type of people are on this site, I was hoping hunters helping hunters.....

If that's what you are looking for, you will have better luck in private messages.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: colockumelk on December 13, 2011, 09:44:43 AM
Definetly some jokers here, I hunt in Okanogan County, mainly the Northern part of the county to the Canadian border where we get our share of 150" class bucks, with a few 160-170" and I've been fortunate enough to be involved in a couple of outstanding Whitetails. I wasn't looking for anyones "Secret Honey Holes" just wondering if there was anyone serious on here that had an opinion on where they think the best of the best is. I am very familiar with getting out and scouting and creating my own outcome. I was thinking or hoping that we could converse about different opinions of where the biggest bucks are taken year in year out in Washington. Thank you to the ones that did and the jokers are truly a waste of time in my opinion, makes me wonder what type of people are on this site, I was hoping hunters helping hunters.....

Sarcasm is just one of the things I offer every day free of charge to this website.   :tup:

And as far as the unbelievable elk goes.  My secret honey hole is not the best spot IMHO.  The best spot is in the Blue Mountains.  Just ask woodchuck and 400out.  They both know.  Lots of easy walking and big huge bulls.  Just watch out for sasquatch, he'll get ya.  And not in a "he will eat you" kind of way.  I mean he'll get you in a "Deliverance" kind of way.   :yike:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: 400out on December 13, 2011, 09:48:55 AM
Shirt sale  :chuckle: Just in time for hunt spot research
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: 400out on December 13, 2011, 09:51:38 AM
Definetly some jokers here, I hunt in Okanogan County, mainly the Northern part of the county to the Canadian border where we get our share of 150" class bucks, with a few 160-170" and I've been fortunate enough to be involved in a couple of outstanding Whitetails. I wasn't looking for anyones "Secret Honey Holes" just wondering if there was anyone serious on here that had an opinion on where they think the best of the best is. I am very familiar with getting out and scouting and creating my own outcome. I was thinking or hoping that we could converse about different opinions of where the biggest bucks are taken year in year out in Washington. Thank you to the ones that did and the jokers are truly a waste of time in my opinion, makes me wonder what type of people are on this site, I was hoping hunters helping hunters.....

Sarcasm is just one of the things I offer every day free of charge to this website.   :tup:

And as far as the unbelievable elk goes.  My secret honey hole is not the best spot IMHO.  The best spot is in the Blue Mountains.  Just ask woodchuck and 400out.  They both know.  Lots of easy walking and big huge bulls.  Just watch out for sasquatch, he'll get ya.  And not in a "he will eat you" kind of way.  I mean he'll get you in a "Deliverance" kind of way.   :yike:
Sarcasm is just one of the things I offer every day free of charge to this website.  Damn I think you almost had him  :rolleyes: proof is in the............now is it pudding or posting  :dunno:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: rtspring on December 13, 2011, 09:54:01 AM
this is some funny a** chit!!!
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Skillet on December 13, 2011, 10:26:47 AM
Definetly some jokers here, I hunt in Okanogan County, mainly the Northern part of the county to the Canadian border where we get our share of 150" class bucks, with a few 160-170" and I've been fortunate enough to be involved in a couple of outstanding Whitetails. I wasn't looking for anyones "Secret Honey Holes" just wondering if there was anyone serious on here that had an opinion on where they think the best of the best is. I am very familiar with getting out and scouting and creating my own outcome. I was thinking or hoping that we could converse about different opinions of where the biggest bucks are taken year in year out in Washington. Thank you to the ones that did and the jokers are truly a waste of time in my opinion, makes me wonder what type of people are on this site, I was hoping hunters helping hunters.....

Now this post sounds like a hunter looking to talk to other hunters.  Your very first post on this site sounded like an internet troll looking for someone to just hand over information.  Nobody knew what you were after with that pathetic post.  What, is your internet charged by the keystroke?  You're smart to have shared a little more info.  This is a discussion forum, not "Ask.com".  Jeeves don't live here.

For my money, the biggest WT in Washington on farmland in the northeastern counties.  I've seen a few decent bucks in the National Forest above the river bottoms, but whenever I've seen a bruiser WT it's been on private. 
Or they're wherever DBHawthorne sets up his cams -
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: h20hunter on December 13, 2011, 10:37:47 AM
One suggestion would be to train as a ninja and follow Alwine........he may allow his girl to hunt with a pink bow but I've seen his pics and some of the show.....they get it done on plenty of critters, whitetail included.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Ellensburg on December 13, 2011, 04:51:24 PM
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Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: CountryslickR on December 13, 2011, 06:14:21 PM
Okay you asked where the biggest white tail bucks in WA state are.  You didn't specify alive or dead.  This is why I gave you these gps coordinates N 47° 03.762' W 122° 47.097'  because this place has in fact the LARGEST WT bucks in the state.  The Cabelas in Lacy has some huge studs in there.  The life size mounts are truley awesome.  You will be hard pressed to find another place that has so many Boone and Crockett bucks in a 100x100 foot area.   :chuckle:

This is a very deserving answer for a question like the first post...!! :tup:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: jess on December 13, 2011, 10:33:46 PM
ok the biggest whitetails i have seen have been in the area you hunt... I hunt it for sheds and find some good ones... If you want to get a truely huge whitetail hunt him like a big mulie... IMHO.... but you find huge bucks in thier tracks!  From the cascades all the way to idaho every gmu that has whitetails in it has huge bucks...
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 14, 2011, 04:34:10 PM
You guys are all a bunch of jerks.  For Pete's sake, just tell the guy that the biggest deer in the state, hands down, are in the Colockum.  It's not a big secret, there's tons of animals(Deer AND elk), not many hunters, lots of tags, and they are not infested with the Bigfoot problems that have plauged the Blue Mountains in recent years.

Plenty of deer to go around.  Stop being selfish... :nono:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 14, 2011, 05:21:22 PM
I have yet to find a GMU with decent whitetail numbers that doesn't hold some giants. If we consider the record books then Stevens county hands down has the biggest bucks in the state by a long shot. However, I think all GMU's hold some great bucks.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Big Daddy Buck Slayer on December 14, 2011, 06:58:32 PM
Just look in the East Okanogan Unit.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: Clancy on December 14, 2011, 07:17:22 PM
who cares. blacktails all day  :tup:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: huntnnw on December 15, 2011, 06:23:17 AM
the largest whiteys I ve ever seen in this state were no where near farm land and on natl forest...unit hmmm  :dunno:
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 15, 2011, 06:28:43 AM
I have yet to find a GMU with decent whitetail numbers that doesn't hold some giants. If we consider the record books then Stevens county hands down has the biggest bucks in the state by a long shot. However, I think all GMU's hold some great bucks.

My buddy lives in Rice and he always gets a big boy on his own land.
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: DoubleJ on December 15, 2011, 06:52:51 AM
C-Post in my opinion. Check the regs becuase the change up the any buck/ any deer dates during the seasons. Lots of access, plenty of deer. Just my two cents.

Shoot.  I was beaten to it.  h20hunter is right.  C-Post is the spot
Title: Re: Large Whitetail where?
Post by: windygorge on December 15, 2011, 07:40:36 AM
i cant believe there is so many a--holes on one website  :bash: >:(

HAHAHAHAHA.....now thats funny.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:This is ribbing in the first degree twotone.  just play along and eventually they might give a pointer or two :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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