Post by: newbie76 on December 18, 2011, 08:13:20 AM
Post by: high country on December 18, 2011, 08:32:10 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on December 18, 2011, 08:32:57 AM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on December 18, 2011, 08:47:54 AM
look for a used wingmaster with a 3" reciever and screw in chokes, and you're golden.
Post by: DoubleJ on December 18, 2011, 09:03:32 AM
remington 870 in 12 gauge. doesn't get much more versatile than that.
look for a used wingmaster with a 3" reciever and screw in chokes, and you're golden.
:yeah:
Post by: ghosthunter on December 18, 2011, 09:11:44 AM
remington 870 in 12 gauge. doesn't get much more versatile than that.
look for a used wingmaster with a 3" reciever and screw in chokes, and you're golden.
:yeah:
:tup:
Post by: newbie76 on December 18, 2011, 09:27:06 AM
upland, waterfowl or both?
Both!
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 18, 2011, 09:28:05 AM
Post by: newbie76 on December 18, 2011, 09:28:54 AM
remington 870 in 12 gauge. doesn't get much more versatile than that.
look for a used wingmaster with a 3" reciever and screw in chokes, and you're golden.
:yeah:
:tup:
Definitely the most recommendations for that gun :) THANKS!
Post by: Bofire on December 18, 2011, 09:31:56 AM
Carl
Post by: Oldguy on December 18, 2011, 09:34:06 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on December 18, 2011, 10:08:03 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on December 18, 2011, 10:10:49 AM
That link tells you the age of the wingmaster you find. As long as it's in good shape, remember, they don't make anything like they used to. The one I just got from my dad, that was my grandpa's was labeled LYY meaning it was manufactured in Feb 1952. It's showing some age but nothing I can't buff out and get it re-blued for about $100
Post by: DoubleJ on December 18, 2011, 10:15:54 AM
Post by: high country on December 18, 2011, 10:20:34 AM
Post by: CP on December 18, 2011, 10:28:27 AM
No offense intended here, but being a gal, the recoil of a 3" 12ga may be more than you want in a pump gun. Autoloaders eat a lot of recoil...something to consider. Additionally, if you are on the petite side, the long slide of the 3" pump gun may bug you. I would go fondle one and cycle it a few times while it is mounted up to your shoulder.:yeah:
Spend a little extra and get yourself a good gas operated auto such as a Browning Maxus. Really tames the recoil and can handle any shell from the lightest trap loads to the heaviest 3 ½” magnums.
Post by: Stickerbush on December 18, 2011, 10:28:36 AM
Post by: nwwanderer on December 18, 2011, 11:53:15 AM
Post by: high country on December 18, 2011, 12:22:27 PM
Post by: Huntbear on December 18, 2011, 02:47:23 PM
remington 870 in 12 gauge. doesn't get much more versatile than that.
look for a used wingmaster with a 3" reciever and screw in chokes, and you're golden.
:yeah:
:tup:
Definitely the most recommendations for that gun :) THANKS!
Gets my vote too. Very reliable, they just do not break, and are very simple to tear down and clean thoroughly.
Post by: RadSav on December 18, 2011, 03:52:08 PM
Post by: newbie76 on December 18, 2011, 05:29:13 PM
Are you wanting a Trap & Skeet gun that doubles as a bird gun or a bird gun that doubles as a T&S. Would make a world of difference as to what I would recommend.
Hmmmm....i guess for now a trap and skeet gun that doubles as a bird gun. Since that is what i have tried and really enjoy.
Post by: RadSav on December 18, 2011, 05:47:19 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on December 18, 2011, 11:52:31 PM
if you want to use it for trap and skeet as well you can get a trap barrel for the 870 from remington, then youd have a trap gun and field gun simply by swapping the barrel.
if youre recoil sensitive you can always shoot softer loads or save up your pennies and look at a semi auto that will eat some of the recoil
Post by: RadSav on December 19, 2011, 12:18:41 AM
No one in there right mind shoots 3" magnum loads to shoot trap or skeet regardless of whether they are shooting a pump, s-auto or double gun. If you are more than 130 pounds you will care less about recoil in a trap, sporting clay or skeet gun. If it was a big deal no one would shoot double guns for clays.
Post by: thinkingman on December 19, 2011, 09:44:41 AM
No one has mentioned fit as one of the important characteristics.
I has made a huge difference for me.
I am now shooting a Browning Silver Hunter in 20ga and killing birds dead.
It fits me much differently than my 870 and 1187.
BTW, NOBODY I know that bought a 3.5in 12ga has ever shot a 3.5 inch shell through it...but they paid a lot for the bragging rights.
Post by: Atroxus on December 19, 2011, 09:57:59 AM
Post by: Huntbear on December 19, 2011, 10:02:57 AM
In that case I would stay clear of the pump and go for a good Semi-Auto like the Beretta or Franchi. You will be spending double or more what you would for the 870, but you'll be busting some serious clays and having a lot more fun doing it. I personally sway toward the Franchi, but the Beretta seems to be leading the pack around here. They both use the same choke system which I am a big fan of.
Why stay away from the pump? I can shoot my 870 as fast if not faster than anyones semi auto, and by slamming the action forward when loading the next round it naturally pulls the barrel back down into line of sight. I won many a trap and skeet shoot with an 870 when I used to shoot those competitions, before it became a big whining contest among people shooting 2000.00 + shotguns.
Post by: LincolnTWilliams on December 19, 2011, 11:17:24 AM
I also have an 1100 that I like a lot too. The new Versamax is supposed to be pertty kick A.
Post by: CP on December 19, 2011, 11:34:31 AM
There was a show on the Outdoor Channel the other day about the 870. One guy said, "The only thing more reliable than an 870 is a claw hammer." I bought a wingmaster when I was 14 (29 now) and it is still my favorite shotgun, hasn't broke yet. That said one of my troops has an express that came with a bunk trigger group, we fixed that and then something with the tube magazine broke.... I guess there can be one out of 10 million that has problems.
I also have an 1100 that I like a lot too. The new Versamax is supposed to be pertty kick A.
I shot a mid-60s vintage wingmaster a couple of months ago and it was smooth as silk, a finely crafted work of art. The 870 express however is a POS. I bought one a couple of years ago that did nothing but jam. Everything about it was shoddy and cheap.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 19, 2011, 11:37:46 AM
As for specific guns, I like autos--Benelli and Browning. The Browning A-5 has a gas ring that changes the recoil cycle depending on heavy vs. light loads to eat up recoil. Can usually find good deals on them.
Post by: uplandhunter870 on December 21, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
No one in there right mind shoots 3" magnum loads to shoot trap or skeet regardless of whether they are shooting a pump, s-auto or double gun. If you are more than 130 pounds you will care less about recoil in a trap, sporting clay or skeet gun. If it was a big deal no one would shoot double guns for clays.
no one shoots 3" shells for trap and skeet because they are illegal, trust me if people could shoot 3'' 1 1/2 oz loads they would, i know i would especially at major events