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Community => Photo & Video => Topic started by: grandpawrichard on July 16, 2008, 02:39:11 PM

Title: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: grandpawrichard on July 16, 2008, 02:39:11 PM: My new Canon 70 to 200 f4 L seies telephoto lens came today. I got it out of the box and onto my camera as fast as humanly possible, then I ran outside a began to take photos of some flowers! :)

I guess I am a little disappointed in the lens. :eek: It focuses much closer than my non L series 90 to 300 lens. It is much quieter than the kit lens. It is also a sharper focus lens. My main complaint is that it is much heavier than my kit lens and it is also better looking than the kit lens!

I took this photo today:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb218%2Fgrandpawrichard%2Fnew%2520canon%2520L%2520series%2520lens%2520photos%2FRedFuchiacloseup2.jpg&hash=6e632064339a36c21db888eb914b9332741c3673)

the settings were: Camera Make:
Camera Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 30D
Image Date: 2008:07:16 12:17:24
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 200.0mm
CCD Width: 3.42mm
Exposure Time: 0.0031 s (1/320)
Aperture: f/14.0
ISO equiv: 400
White Balance: Auto
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

Here is a photo that I took of the same flowers that I took the other day with my 90 to 300 mm. kit lens (much later in the day and no direct sunlight):

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb218%2Fgrandpawrichard%2Fflowers%2520and%2520cherries%2Fsopretty.jpg&hash=ddd5fe53103c93ed7d728bf8cde0c8a96d2a133f)

Camera Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 30D
Image Date: 2008:07:14 19:05:08
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 300.0mm
CCD Width: 3.42mm
Exposure Time: 0.0050 s (1/200)
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO equiv: 800
White Balance: Auto
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)

Now, get a load of this photo taken with the kit lens:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb218%2Fgrandpawrichard%2Fflowers%2520and%2520cherries%2Flittlepurplewildflowersvididcolors.jpg&hash=39501d4c65778f5bccef76b0c15a808934fd635f)

Camera Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 30D
Image Date: 2008:07:14 19:01:48
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 300.0mm
CCD Width: 3.74mm
Exposure Time: 0.0050 s (1/200)
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO equiv: 400
White Balance: Auto
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)

With the L series:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb218%2Fgrandpawrichard%2Fnew%2520canon%2520L%2520series%2520lens%2520photos%2FWowzersmallersizefornet.jpg&hash=339e97d3aef3fc20daa16a25d78c2f15e6c2efcb)

Camera Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 30D
Image Date: 2008:07:16 12:11:38
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 188.0mm
CCD Width: 3.42mm
Exposure Time: 0.0040 s (1/250)
Aperture: f/14.0
ISO equiv: 400
White Balance: Auto
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

Here's a photo of a rose bud that I really like:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb218%2Fgrandpawrichard%2Fnew%2520canon%2520L%2520series%2520lens%2520photos%2Fspectacular4smallersizeforthenet.jpg&hash=003920c989cfa9ef53122cbf91ff71bfe837155f)

Camera Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 30D
Image Date: 2008:07:16 12:04:59
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 200.0mm
CCD Width: 4.30mm
Exposure Time: 0.010 s (1/100)
Aperture: f/18.0
ISO equiv: 100
White Balance: Auto
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)

and another view:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb218%2Fgrandpawrichard%2Fnew%2520canon%2520L%2520series%2520lens%2520photos%2Fgorgeouspinkrose.jpg&hash=1517b37e437c4cf562c7ffc11b853a03cab863be)

Camera Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 30D
Image Date: 2008:07:16 12:06:56
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 113.0mm
CCD Width: 5.13mm
Exposure Time: 0.0050 s (1/200)
Aperture: f/14.0
ISO equiv: 200
White Balance: Auto
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

I guess that I should admit that I LOVE the new Canon 70-300 f/4 L series lens that I just purchased! It is The Nicest lens that I have ever put on this camera! Now I just need to save up for some more L Series lenses!

Dick
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 16, 2008, 02:42:43 PM: yea better take it back those pictures are horrible!!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 16, 2008, 03:32:36 PM: Ut oh, you got an L addiction. I've owned tons of L series lenses and love them all. Did you get the IS version of this lens or the non-IS version?

I must say, I just got the 100mm f2.8 macro a few weeks ago and it's as sharp as any L series lens I've ever had. In addition, a while ago I bought a 10-22mm EF-S lens and it's as sharp as any L series lens I've ever used. They are really starting to make a few quality lenses without L designation. I can say I've used a few L series lenses that weren't that great of quality. (100-300mm L, 20-35 L...yuk)
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: yajsab on July 16, 2008, 04:02:04 PM: > I guess that I should admit that I LOVE the new Canon 70-300 f/4 L series lens that I just purchased!

You mean 70-200.

Did you get the IS version? I bought this lens (non IS) a few months back, and I realized how old I've grown. :chuckle: I can't hand held @ 200. I kept thinking of the IS version now. May be I'll just keep this one and save up to buy an IS in longer range. I went to Yellowstone three weeks ago and noticed that for wild life shooting I need longer range.

Those are horrible pictures. :chuckle:

Glad you like the lens.
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: grandpawrichard on July 16, 2008, 05:35:36 PM: Shawn and yajsab ,
I didn't get the IS version due to the weight of the lens and the price. :( I figured that this model would be an awesome walk around lens, especially when out hunting. :)

Shawn,
I have you to blame for the purchase! If I had never seen your photos I would have been happy with my kit lenses! :yike: :P

yajsab,
you are absolutely right about the lens size! I screwed up and put a 300 instead of a 200. :rolleyes: I guess I'm just too excited about the lens and the results. :P

I'm pretty lucky so far, I can still hand hold a 200, but I also have a pretty nice tripod that I can take along with me. ;) :)

Skyvalhunter,
Yup! You are definitely right! I better take it back and get a 2X converter in the L series to go along with it! ;) :) Maybe even pick up an L series 28 to 70 to go with it! ;) :)

Dick
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 16, 2008, 05:48:30 PM: I gotta say guys, I was against IS for a long time but I'm sold. I noticed you shot a lot of the above shots at 1/200th of a second and that's the bare minimum shutter speed you can use with this lens. However, with IS you could shoot this thing easily down to 1/60th... The IS is so expensive, however. The 70-200 f4 IS L is about 1k...quite a bit more than the $500 you probably paid for the non-IS. I still get hung up on it being f4...

I recently rented the 400mm f4 DO IS and used IS the whole time on it. I handheld sharp pictures down to 1/60th. Simply amazing. I never used a tripod. I am of the opinion that I don't want to use a tripod anymore for wildlife. It's necessary for landscape, but with IS wildlife shots can be done without a tripod.

Yaj...when I go to Yellowstone my favorite lens is a 400mm. It's the perfect all around focal length, especially with a crop sensor. At Yellowstone you can get away with a 300mm. Great pics guys.
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: Slider on July 16, 2008, 06:27:20 PM: WOW those Pics suck..................lol :chuckle:
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: popeshawnpaul on July 16, 2008, 08:02:54 PM: I know I posted this on here before, but I thought I would post it again for those who may have missed it. If you are wondering what the hubbub is about an L or Luxury series Canon lens then here is the difference. The first lens is a 28-105 EF f3.5-f4.5 non-L series lens. All the settings are the same between the two shots. They are both shot at 40mm. Here is the difference. By the way, the first lens, the 28-105 is a decent lens and better than cheap kit lenses... Do you see a difference? I have taken very nice shots with both lenses, but I do notice the clarity on images with the non-L lenses is a bit fuzzy and not sharp like an L series lens. So sometimes they are a few extra bucks, but is it worth it to you? Only you can decide. I'll add that there are some cheap L series lenses and some non-L lenses are more expensive than L lenses. So it's not a rich mans game.

Canon 28-105 f3.5-f4.5:
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/28-105.jpg)

Canon 17-40 F4 L
(https://hunting-washington.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10250/17-40.jpg)
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: Jerome on July 16, 2008, 08:14:47 PM: Wow thats like night and day. Impressive difference.
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: Gamblin Guy on July 17, 2008, 06:16:35 AM: Dick,

Nice to see you jumping in to the "other" form of shooting and congrats on the L glass. I bought the 100-400 this spring and finally got a chance to really play with it during my boys allstar baseball tourney earlier this month. I shot both hand held and with a monopod and really liked the mono. Might be an option for you to help with the weight.

Dan
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: boneaddict on July 22, 2008, 06:02:48 AM: I've got lens evny. congrats on the new toy.
Title: Re: Disappointed in my new L series lens! ;)
Post by: robodad on July 22, 2008, 11:55:02 AM: I really wish you wouldn't post pictures like that grandpawrichard, I have been trying to save my money for an out of state hunting trip and you may have ruined that for me.

FWIW those pictures really are a disappointment if you ask me !!! NOT !! :drool: