Post by: Maverick on December 27, 2011, 04:11:44 PM
Post by: Maverick on December 27, 2011, 04:12:36 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 27, 2011, 04:19:13 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on December 27, 2011, 04:34:07 PM
Post by: fethrduster on December 27, 2011, 04:56:03 PM
good job :tup:. I went last week for the last time and limited out. I think I over did it hiking to far and have a doctors appointment for the right knee coming up :yike:. I guess that is what I get going up the steepest stuff around here.
Please pm me. I'd like to give it one last try this year.
Post by: wildweeds on December 27, 2011, 05:14:33 PM
Post by: Maverick on December 27, 2011, 06:27:04 PM
I personally think chukar hunting is way overrated...........it's all about the ego IMO.I will concur that they eat very well but no better than a quail............they are just twice as big is all.
Have you ever been on a good chuckar hunt?
Post by: JLS on December 27, 2011, 09:12:26 PM
I personally think chukar hunting is way overrated...........it's all about the ego IMO.I will concur that they eat very well but no better than a quail............they are just twice as big is all.
Sorry you think that way. It's all about the fun IMO. I do it for the challenge, not because of what anyone else might think.
Post by: Maverick on December 27, 2011, 09:35:05 PM
Post by: JLS on December 27, 2011, 10:11:13 PM
My wife thinks I'm an idiot. I probably am. I think even my lab agrees at times. I guess I am a purist snob, because I'd rather come home with a couple of chukars than chase released pheasants around.
Post by: 270Shooter on December 27, 2011, 10:43:56 PM
Post by: chukarchaser on December 27, 2011, 11:13:27 PM
Post by: Maverick on December 27, 2011, 11:35:54 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on December 28, 2011, 12:22:02 AM
I personally think chukar hunting is way overrated...........it's all about the ego IMO.Ouch :o Thats utter bull shat, we all know chukar hunting is all about the Id (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_super-ego)
Post by: JJB11B on December 28, 2011, 12:32:19 AM
Post by: fethrduster on December 28, 2011, 08:40:06 AM
Post by: wildweeds on December 28, 2011, 12:20:32 PM
I personally think chukar hunting is way overrated...........it's all about the ego IMO.I will concur that they eat very well but no better than a quail............they are just twice as big is all.
Have you ever been on a good chuckar hunt?
Post by: Maverick on December 30, 2011, 12:51:17 PM
Post by: JLS on December 30, 2011, 01:16:51 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on December 30, 2011, 01:20:36 PM
just a heads up if you dont know but there are a lot of areas oover here on the Eastside that are Steel shot only now, upland included. There is a whole page in the upland bir regs that defines the areas.
Post by: JLS on December 30, 2011, 01:22:49 PM
Post by: wildweeds on December 30, 2011, 05:20:42 PM
You stick to the quail. More chuckar for the rest of us! :tup:
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 01, 2012, 10:44:41 PM
Happy Hunting in 2012 Everyone!
Post by: clindsayrun on January 02, 2012, 02:26:36 AM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 02, 2012, 10:57:14 AM
Post by: Maverick on January 02, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
Post by: jennyfell55 on January 02, 2012, 11:09:57 AM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 02, 2012, 08:28:53 PM
Post by: turkey slayer on January 03, 2012, 10:09:46 AM
Post by: fethrduster on January 03, 2012, 02:22:21 PM
As for non-toxic alternatives, look up RST shells or New Era shotshells. They sell Nice Shot and ITX shells (both are just like lead more or less) made for older doubles that are very effective. Steel sucks. Or, buy a reloader and some nice shot or ITX shot from Ballistic Products or Precision Reloading and roll your own. I shoot sxs's exclusively and will vouch for this option.
Post by: Stilly bay on January 03, 2012, 05:00:31 PM
Will have to try some of the non-toxic shells to see how they pattern. One more picture of of one of our birds. Good luck to everyone with finishing up your season.
Nice Uggie! I have one that used to look that clean. its my go to grouse gun. If Im going non toxic with it I use "Nice" shot which is a little spendy but puts the birds down.
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 03, 2012, 09:52:17 PM
Stilly Bay, you know your shotguns! :IBCOOL: This was my first time hunting with a double and I had a hard time finding the forward trigger. Not sure if it's a LOP problem. Both birds I shot were with the rear trigger (and full choke) which I instinctively found on the covey rise. Let me know if anyone has some tips for speeding up the learning curve on the use of two triggers.
I had five birds go up when I reached the top of a knob ..... and reaching for the forward trigger, I basically touched them both off ... ba boom and missed the bird I was shooting at. :bash:
Chukar's are tough little birds to down and can be frustrating to locate. But I hope to make it out once more before the season ends.
Post by: Stilly bay on January 04, 2012, 05:57:26 PM
practice and practice and practice. after awhile you should be able to switch back and forth from a double trigger gun and a single trigger, just like some people can swap pump guns for autos without any hiccups.
Stilly Bay, you know your shotguns! :IBCOOL: This was my first time hunting with a double and I had a hard time finding the forward trigger. Not sure if it's a LOP problem. Both birds I shot were with the rear trigger (and full choke) which I instinctively found on the covey rise. Let me know if anyone has some tips for speeding up the learning curve on the use of two triggers.
get some snap caps so you can practice pulling the triggers in the house without hurting the firing pins.
it maybe a combo of too much LOP and getting used to the double triggers AND the straight grip. a pistol grip tells your hand where to sit while an english grip leaves you to your own devices, thats why fit is so important. measure the LOP and fire up the band saw and git R done :chuckle:
if this is your first double trigger gun I would wager you will want nothing else once you get used to it. there is nothing better than being able to choose which barrel you want instantly!
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 04, 2012, 09:54:39 PM
Now if I can someday find an affordable 20 or 16 gauge, 6 lb sidelock double gun ............... the dream is alive.
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 04, 2012, 10:00:45 PM
Great pick Phantom I am glad that could help. Thanks again for the seaducks can't wait to get started on them
Can't wait to see the finished drake White Wing Scoters and the Black Scoter.
Post by: fethrduster on January 05, 2012, 04:05:10 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 05, 2012, 06:16:16 PM
I had a new Uggie grade 1 16ga that I got from Lion Country Supply for $1300 about 4 or 5 yrs ago. Probably the best buy in the new double gun market. It didn't have enough drop at heel for my tastes so I sold it, but I would highly recommend one regardless.
I picked up the used Uggie in 12 GA (with 28 inch barrels) over the holidays from DJs in Bothell. I stopped in and tried out all of them in my price range (under $800) and this boxlock seemed to feel and "fit" me the best. I was hoping for a smaller GA but I had the double bug bad and am very happy with the purchase so far. My Model 221 Uggie was imported in the 80's by the Exel Co in Conn., is in good shape and has favorable internet reviews. I plan to purchase some spreader loads for grouse and quail, as at it is choked Full and Improved Modified.
Sounds like you have some good areas in Oregon to hunt. Our Central WA areas are kinda spotty as far as finding birds. We typically have to cover a lot of ground to find some.
Post by: fethrduster on January 06, 2012, 07:39:13 AM
I had a new Uggie grade 1 16ga that I got from Lion Country Supply for $1300 about 4 or 5 yrs ago. Probably the best buy in the new double gun market. It didn't have enough drop at heel for my tastes so I sold it, but I would highly recommend one regardless.
I picked up the used Uggie in 12 GA (with 28 inch barrels) over the holidays from DJs in Bothell. I stopped in and tried out all of them in my price range (under $800) and this boxlock seemed to feel and "fit" me the best. I was hoping for a smaller GA but I had the double bug bad and am very happy with the purchase so far. My Model 221 Uggie was imported in the 80's by the Exel Co in Conn., is in good shape and has favorable internet reviews. I plan to purchase some spreader loads for grouse and quail, as at it is choked Full and Improved Modified.
Sounds like you have some good areas in Oregon to hunt. Our Central WA areas are kinda spotty as far as finding birds. We typically have to cover a lot of ground to find some.
DJ's has some great buys. There are a couple double project guns there I'm thinking about too. I saw your Uggie on the rack a while back now that you mention it. Uggie model 30's were imported by a number of different companies back in the 80's, much like Zabala and others. Good guns.
I might give in and try finding some chuks around the Palouse next year on the Snake. I thought it would be fun to do a combo chukar/pheasant/deer hunt, and spend a week. We'll see.
Post by: Stilly bay on January 06, 2012, 10:44:07 AM
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I picked up the used Uggie in 12 GA (with 28 inch barrels) over the holidays from DJs in Bothell. I stopped in and tried out all of them in my price range (under $800) and this boxlock seemed to feel and "fit" me the best. I was hoping for a smaller GA but I had the double bug bad and am very happy with the purchase so far. My Model 221 Uggie was imported in the 80's by the Exel Co in Conn., is in good shape and has favorable internet reviews. I plan to purchase some spreader loads for grouse and quail, as at it is choked Full and Improved Modified.
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sounds like we have very similar guns. mine was imported by excel also.
I ended up getting a case of 2 1/2" spreader loads for grouse, and couldn't be happier with their performance at the patterning board AND in the woods.
FWIW Im sure you already know this but don't put heavy loads in that uggie, although its marked 2 3/4" you should really only put lighter "square" 2 3/4" loads through it to avoid stock cracking and other parts breaking down from high pressure and heavy recoil.
the doublegun bug always starts with an uggie.
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 06, 2012, 10:37:10 PM
Stilly, What size shot do you use for grouse and for chukar? I'm assuming that the max load in the 12 GA Uggie would be
1 1/4 oz. in 2 3/4 high base? :dunno:
Duster, Sounds like a good plan for next year. Your gonna need to be in shape for hunting the breaks and also have some well worn lightweight boots! :yeah:
Post by: fethrduster on January 09, 2012, 03:26:37 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 11, 2012, 06:24:26 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 11, 2012, 06:44:13 PM
I picked up the used Uggie in 12 GA (with 28 inch barrels) over the holidays from DJs in Bothell. I stopped in and tried out all of them in my price range (under $800) and this boxlock seemed to feel and "fit" me the best. I was hoping for a smaller GA but I had the double bug bad and am very happy with the purchase so far. My Model 221 Uggie was imported in the 80's by the Exel Co in Conn., is in good shape and has favorable internet reviews. I plan to purchase some spreader loads for grouse and quail, as at it is choked Full and Improved Modified.
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sounds like we have very similar guns. mine was imported by excel also.
I ended up getting a case of 2 1/2" spreader loads for grouse, and couldn't be happier with their performance at the patterning board AND in the woods.
FWIW Im sure you already know this but don't put heavy loads in that uggie, although its marked 2 3/4" you should really only put lighter "square" 2 3/4" loads through it to avoid stock cracking and other parts breaking down from high pressure and heavy recoil.
the doublegun bug always starts with an uggie.
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Stilly Bay - What are the specs on your uggie? Do you have a picture you can post?
Post by: floatinghat on January 12, 2012, 09:23:48 PM
I had a new Uggie grade 1 16ga that I got from Lion Country Supply for $1300 about 4 or 5 yrs ago. Probably the best buy in the new double gun market. It didn't have enough drop at heel for my tastes so I sold it, but I would highly recommend one regardless.
I picked up the used Uggie in 12 GA (with 28 inch barrels) over the holidays from DJs in Bothell. I stopped in and tried out all of them in my price range (under $800) and this boxlock seemed to feel and "fit" me the best. I was hoping for a smaller GA but I had the double bug bad and am very happy with the purchase so far. My Model 221 Uggie was imported in the 80's by the Exel Co in Conn., is in good shape and has favorable internet reviews. I plan to purchase some spreader loads for grouse and quail, as at it is choked Full and Improved Modified.
Sounds like you have some good areas in Oregon to hunt. Our Central WA areas are kinda spotty as far as finding birds. We typically have to cover a lot of ground to find some.
DJ's has some great buys. There are a couple double project guns there I'm thinking about too. I saw your Uggie on the rack a while back now that you mention it. Uggie model 30's were imported by a number of different companies back in the 80's, much like Zabala and others. Good guns.
I might give in and try finding some chuks around the Palouse next year on the Snake. I thought it would be fun to do a combo chukar/pheasant/deer hunt, and spend a week. We'll see.
If I recall correctly the 221 is not a model 30. They are very similar but the 221 has chopper lumps and a hidden third bite.
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 13, 2012, 09:36:53 AM
"If I recall correctly the 221 is not a model 30. They are very similar but the 221 has chopper lumps and a hidden third bite."
Floatinghat - I'm not sure what a hidden third bite means? Are you saying that the model 221 is a higher grade gun? :dunno:
Post by: Stilly bay on January 14, 2012, 07:51:11 PM
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Stilly Bay - What are the specs on your uggie? Do you have a picture you can post?
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heres the old gal with some chukars and a phez I got yesterday. I was using 12gauge, 2and a half inch, 7/8 oz #8's in my first barrel and #6's in my second and really thumped the birds with it for a "light" load.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1033.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa418%2Fstillydawg%2FIMG_0526.jpg&hash=6e983914218e966233faed4a3607650ea0e00b48)
Post by: JJB11B on January 14, 2012, 10:55:20 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 15, 2012, 07:38:36 PM
Hunted upland on Saturday and harvested a couple quail and missed on two covey rises of Chukar. Still challenged on the double trigger, but I am going to stay with it and hopefully do better next season. My hunting partner opened up the chokes on his CZ-USA 20 GA Bobwhite and he started downing quite a few quail. The other hot gun was a 12 GA Ruger O/U with English stock.
Post by: byrdman on January 15, 2012, 07:58:34 PM
We had a minor breakthrough in that he consistently obeyed my "whoa" command while on point. Steady-to-wing sure makes things easier. Now to work on steady-to-shot.
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 15, 2012, 08:09:45 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 15, 2012, 08:13:46 PM
I could only manage to bring one down on Friday.
We had a minor breakthrough in that he consistently obeyed my "whoa" command while on point. Steady-to-wing sure makes things easier. Now to work on steady-to-shot.
Great looking GSP and pictures! Looks like you had a nice day to be out on the slopes!
Post by: lonedave on January 15, 2012, 09:31:35 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi174.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw107%2Flonedave%2FChukarwithMuzzleloader1-15-12.jpg&hash=fe32acd33c396c3a533a133d9d6bd12db44b445e)
Post by: Stilly bay on January 15, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 16, 2012, 10:55:54 AM
chukar with muzzle loader?! your a rock star dude!
Ditto! Very classy photo Dave! Atta Dog to Lilly. :IBCOOL:
Post by: lonedave on January 16, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 17, 2012, 02:51:23 PM
Post by: Forrestrover.02 on January 17, 2012, 06:18:55 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 17, 2012, 09:05:23 PM
Great pics, everybody! Well, I got my first chukar on the last day of the season! Yay!!! I was thrilled! The covey my brother's dog found was huge! We should've had a lot more birds. He had his eight-year old boy with him, but slow reflexes are my excuse!
Great way to end the season, and congrats on the phantom chukar!! They don't usually come easy.
Post by: lonedave on January 17, 2012, 09:08:25 PM
Nope, she's all Brittany. I hadn't ever seen her variation. She's not really liver, but more a brown rust color. Since getting her, I've seen several more and realized it's not all that uncommon a color.
Dave
Post by: lonedave on January 17, 2012, 09:11:52 PM
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 17, 2012, 09:16:33 PM
Hey PG
Nope, she's all Brittany. I hadn't ever seen her variation. She's not really liver, but more a brown rust color. Since getting her, I've seen several more and realized it's not all that uncommon a color.
Dave
Dave, Did you get Lily from a breeder. I am partial to the brown and white dogs.
Post by: lonedave on January 18, 2012, 09:34:59 PM
Post by: Flyinlongbow on January 20, 2012, 08:59:51 AM
My father in law got his from hun runner kennels.
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 20, 2012, 11:53:21 AM
Phantom Gobbler , you should look into French Brittany's , they are great pointers and beautiful colors.
My father in law got his from hun runner kennels.
Thanks, I'll check them out. Otis (our GSP) needs a hunting buddy!
Post by: Phantom Gobbler on January 20, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
Phantom Gobbler , you should look into French Brittany's , they are great pointers and beautiful colors.
My father in law got his from hun runner kennels.
FLB, Couldn't find Hun Runner Kennels on the internet. Do they have a website or do you know contact number?
Post by: Flyinlongbow on January 21, 2012, 07:47:37 AM
Post by: fethrduster on January 26, 2012, 08:55:52 AM
If you haven't decided on a dog yet, I can't recommend a good english setter enough. Good luck!
Post by: Stilly bay on January 26, 2012, 05:21:24 PM
I had a brittany before I got my setter early last year. Brittany's are nice dogs, and decent hunters, but man, they can be headstrong and really hyper. My english setter, in contrast, is an exceptional mid range hunter, very very stylish on point, and is the best house dog/pet I could possibly imagine. Incredibly sweet and gentle and obedient, and he really flips the switch when it's time to hunt. I feel like I hit the gun dog jackpot!
If you haven't decided on a dog yet, I can't recommend a good english setter enough. Good luck!
I am a setter fan also but I think being head strong and hyper is a more a matter of breeding than the breed. I have worked with many setters that possess those qualities. its best to spend some time with the pups parents to help hedge your bets on temperament.
Post by: lonedave on January 26, 2012, 09:55:32 PM
Dave
Post by: fethrduster on January 27, 2012, 05:20:13 AM
I had a brittany before I got my setter early last year. Brittany's are nice dogs, and decent hunters, but man, they can be headstrong and really hyper. My english setter, in contrast, is an exceptional mid range hunter, very very stylish on point, and is the best house dog/pet I could possibly imagine. Incredibly sweet and gentle and obedient, and he really flips the switch when it's time to hunt. I feel like I hit the gun dog jackpot!
If you haven't decided on a dog yet, I can't recommend a good english setter enough. Good luck!
I am a setter fan also but I think being head strong and hyper is a more a matter of breeding than the breed. I have worked with many setters that possess those qualities. its best to spend some time with the pups parents to help hedge your bets on temperament.
Point well taken.
Post by: JLS on January 27, 2012, 06:53:54 AM