Post by: NW-GSP on December 28, 2011, 06:36:45 AM
When shhooting my pistol I can keep all my shots in the center mass area on the human body targets but I want to shoot better, I tend to shoot left or low left
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Post by: DoubleJ on December 28, 2011, 07:10:01 AM
Have someone put a spent brass somewhere in your mag. You'd be surprised how much that trigger will get you.
:yeah:
Another thing I have always found helped me with Glocks is to increase shot speed. Taking your time and aiming correctly is fine but, that trigger will kill you on accuracy. Try kind of letting the wrist snap guide you. pull the trigger, let the gun snap back and you should notice, if the gun is not to powerful for you, that your wrist should snap it right back down on target. pull again right away. If you do a magazine on a clean target, you should notice that your groups will be at the least, no worse than they already are, and probably better. With a good trigger, I always could take my time but, with my Glocks, I let the wrist snap be my guide.
Next thing I'd tell you is to get the 3.5lb trigger for it. Really smooths it out
Post by: h20hunter on December 28, 2011, 07:23:25 AM
As far as how accurate am I? Probably not as good as some and maybe better than others. I usually set my targets at 20 or 25 feet. If I can punch holes in center mass and keep the shots tight I consider that good enough. If the threat is closer, they are dead. If the threat is farther away I have time flee if possible or I guess get a gun with longer reach.
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Post by: JLS on December 28, 2011, 08:00:24 AM
I feel that I do really well shooting clay pigeons with my shotgun but my pistol skills are lacking.
When shhooting my pistol I can keep all my shots in the center mass area on the human body targets but I want to shoot better, I tend to shoot left or low left
Shooting low left is a classic sign of anticipating the recoil and pushing the trigger.
Do some dry fire drills. Focus on PRESSING the trigger, you know the gun is going to go off, who cares? Mentally talk to yourself while you maintain your sight picture.
Post by: Hyde on December 28, 2011, 08:25:30 AM
http://www.clear2target.com/pdfs/PistolWheel.pdf
Post by: groundhog on December 28, 2011, 08:37:32 AM
Post by: 44 Flattop on December 28, 2011, 08:42:44 AM
I've handgun hunted for 3 decades and shoot thousands of rounds per year. But it doesn't take many weeks of not shooting before skills start to degrade. So the first thing I do, whether revolver, semi auto or single shot is to sit down and start working at shooting little tiny groups. Shooting rocks, pop cans or man sized targets will do very little for shooting skills. But when you can shoot a 1-2" well centered group everything else becomes a cakewalk.
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 28, 2011, 09:01:11 AM
5" Kimber 1911 that's been tightened up a bit shooting 45acp target loads...
One hand. 50yds. 50rnds. 50 minutes. Iron sights for this first target. Red dot sight for the second target.
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on December 28, 2011, 09:03:11 AM
Quote from: groundhog
"Aim small, miss small"
Truer words have never been spoken when it comes to marksmanship. I was taught not to aim center mass at a target, but pick out a small feature. Be it a number on the ring, a small dot drawn on the kill zone of the target, etc. I focus on that small point and concentrate on that spot. The sights will naturally follow. When the gun fires, it should actually surprise you.
With my Beretta 92F that has an 80lb trigger with 4" of creep( :chuckle:) I can consistently hit a 4" diameter gong 25 yards with it by using these techniques.
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 28, 2011, 09:08:24 AM
And to get over anticipation, dry fire more than live fire. Bad habits are only re enforced if you continue to live fire without fixing the problem.
Post by: jyerxa on December 28, 2011, 09:08:42 AM
I'm a *censored*y shot. :peep:
Post by: wraithen on December 28, 2011, 09:16:43 AM
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Post by: jyerxa on December 28, 2011, 09:53:06 AM
Quote from: groundhog"Aim small, miss small"
Truer words have never been spoken when it comes to marksmanship. I was taught not to aim center mass at a target, but pick out a small feature. Be it a number on the ring, a small dot drawn on the kill zone of the target, etc. I focus on that small point and concentrate on that spot. The sights will naturally follow. When the gun fires, it should actually surprise you.
With my Beretta 92F that has an 80lb trigger with 4" of creep( :chuckle:) I can consistently hit a 4" diameter gong 25 yards with it by using these techniques.
That must be it. I could never shoot well on a flat two dimensional paper target. But give me a pine cone to shoot at and I could make that dance around all day. (Not really, I'd blow it to pieces.) It is the way we focus on the target.
Post by: fillthefreezer on December 28, 2011, 10:01:35 AM
If you practice....
5" Kimber 1911 that's been tightened up a bit shooting 45acp target loads...
One hand. 50yds. 50rnds. 50 minutes. Iron sights for this first target. Red dot sight for the second target.
hes not telling you the size of that target is a picnic table...
(kidding)
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 28, 2011, 10:20:26 AM
If you practice....
5" Kimber 1911 that's been tightened up a bit shooting 45acp target loads...
One hand. 50yds. 50rnds. 50 minutes. Iron sights for this first target. Red dot sight for the second target.
hes not telling you the size of that target is a picnic table...
(kidding)
Proof! (A standard Colt 1911 magazine) (50yd target)
I will add though... I shoot thousands of rounds from my 45's every year.
Post by: Bean Counter on December 28, 2011, 10:53:31 AM
I don't carry a.handgun to hunt or to win competitions. I carry it to shoot people who endanger my family or myself. While my situational awareness extends as far as I can see, some legal fuzzyness arises in shots farther than seven yards as far.as articulating an emminent.threat to your life.
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 28, 2011, 12:30:30 PM
'If I wanted to get better id shoot smaller targets, not look for a 50 yard range.'
I don't carry a.handgun to hunt or to win competitions. I carry it to shoot people who endanger my family or myself. While my situational awareness extends as far as I can see, some legal fuzzyness arises in shots farther than seven yards as far.as articulating an emminent.threat to your life.
OK.. Smaller target. 50'. I do carry a handgun to hunt with, for competition, and protect self & family. But, I tend not to carry my competition guns. It is the thugs best guess to figure out when I'm not. Be rest assured though, I am quite accurate with a snubby revolver too. True reference to protecting one's self at closer range though. All you need to accomplish is consistency at less than 10yds or so.
Post by: ArrowH on December 28, 2011, 01:25:43 PM
One good way to pratice trigger control..i.e. press the trigger, is to use a electric drill for dry fire trigger press control. This will teach you to put constant pressure on the trigger, and you can see the results as they happen.
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Post by: magnanimous_j on December 29, 2011, 07:36:32 AM
Damn! That is 50 yards!!! :yike:
I'm a *censored*y shot. :peep:
It's a Kimber. The gun makes a huge diference. I am not a semi auto fan. I like my 6" S&W, but I am almost as good with my Kimber. Got rid of the rest of my semi auto's. And before anyone jumps all over me, that's just my prefference.
I have a couple semi's, but in my heart I will always be a wheelgun man too
Post by: GoldTip on December 29, 2011, 07:59:20 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 29, 2011, 02:04:55 PM
Damn! That is 50 yards!!! :yike:
I'm a *censored*y shot. :peep:
It's a Kimber. The gun makes a huge diference. I am not a semi auto fan. I like my 6" S&W, but I am almost as good with my Kimber. Got rid of the rest of my semi auto's. And before anyone jumps all over me, that's just my prefference.
I have a couple semi's, but in my heart I will always be a wheelgun man too
Even though I primarily carry a semi auto, I don't knock revolvers. For one thing, they're far more reliable than semi autos. Also, they have the advantage of being able to shoot through say a jacket pocket without impedement of the slide getting caught up on your clothing. I often carry a revolver as a BUG. I'm not even worried about capacity. I have long heard ad populum that the average number of shots in a self defense shooting is between 1 - 3 shots.
Post by: Helix on December 29, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
In a sample size of 25 with 24 one shot incidents and one 75 shot incident the average is 3.96.
just saying. I like having a reload handy. :chuckle: