Post by: Coastal_native on December 28, 2011, 10:49:56 PM
So my question to anyone who might have some advice (besides Colockum) is...How do I protect my bow when I'm crawling, stumbling, falling, climbing through coastal lowland westside brush? Is there such a thing as getting a bow too wet?
Post by: robodad on December 28, 2011, 11:01:34 PM
Post by: Quackin_Archer on December 28, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
Post by: Coastal_native on December 28, 2011, 11:06:06 PM
Post by: JJB11B on December 28, 2011, 11:17:09 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 28, 2011, 11:17:41 PM
Post by: Miles on December 28, 2011, 11:40:46 PM
Well. The only thing you can really do is just move slow, keep in mind you have a bow in your hand and keep your string waxed.
This is very good advice. I forgot my wax one year in elk camp and crawling through the brush and bushes all week long just ruined my string. Wax couldn't fix it by the time I got home.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on December 29, 2011, 01:13:00 AM
I hated trying to sneek through bushes when everything caught on something :bash:
and some of the metalic "twang" when a limb would catch then release.
But then, the new bows might be different, have not carried a c-pound in 9 years...
Shorter axle to axle, more parralel limbs, all the other stuff they have done...
Congrats on a new bow, if I wasn't so attached to the K.I.S.S. theory, I would look at one myself, as I get a lot of 40 yard shots I dont take because my limit is 30....
But when you are in tight in the brush, 25 is perfect, unless you are in a vine maple patch..
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 29, 2011, 08:28:54 AM
Bows are resiliant pieces of equipment and will take a beating and keep going! I have seen ALwine do some crazy things to bows and still kill with them...
Post by: colockumelk on December 29, 2011, 09:03:29 AM
Second of all this is what I use. When I am traveling my bow is always in this sling. It protects the string and the cams. Best $18 I have ever spent. The only time my bow is not in this sling is when I have seen something and I am stalking it, when calling for elk and I'm waiting for it to come to me. Or if I am stopped somewhere watching a trail or taking a break. It works great. Easy to use and comes off in a second ready to use.
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Post by: Coastal_native on December 29, 2011, 09:14:25 AM
Well first of all I can give you advice whenever you want and you will like it. :chuckle:
Second of all this is what I use. When I am traveling my bow is always in this sling. It protects the string and the cams. Best $18 I have ever spent. The only time my bow is not in this sling is when I have seen something and I am stalking it, when calling for elk and I'm waiting for it to come to me. Or if I am stopped somewhere watching a trail or taking a break. It works great. Easy to use and comes off in a second ready to use.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Archery/Archery-Cases-Holders/Bow-Slings-Holsters%7C/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/104256180/i/103987080/Primos174-Bow-Sling/745620.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fhunting-archery-archery-cases-holders-bow-slings-holsters%2F_%2FN-1100050%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_103987080%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253Bcat104791680%253Bcat104693580%253Bcat104256180&WTz_l=SBC%3Bcat104791680%3Bcat104693580%3Bcat104256180%3Bcat103987080 (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Archery/Archery-Cases-Holders/Bow-Slings-Holsters%7C/pc/104791680/c/104693580/sc/104256180/i/103987080/Primos174-Bow-Sling/745620.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fhunting-archery-archery-cases-holders-bow-slings-holsters%2F_%2FN-1100050%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_103987080%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253Bcat104791680%253Bcat104693580%253Bcat104256180&WTz_l=SBC%3Bcat104791680%3Bcat104693580%3Bcat104256180%3Bcat103987080)
So, to clear things up, you're recommending that I use the following list of accessories to proctect my bow:
1. a bow sling
:chuckle:
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 29, 2011, 09:24:34 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 29, 2011, 09:26:17 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 29, 2011, 09:31:50 AM
Take Colockum's other advice carefully with small amounts of salt. I've found that east side bow hunters are mostly afraid of being in the "real" forests and out in our wet weather. The thickness of our wetside forests scares them and gives them claustrophobia. Also, the size of our Rosies may give them diarrhea and nausea. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Coastal_native on December 29, 2011, 09:37:25 AM
Take Colockum's other advice carefully with small amounts of salt. I've found that east side bow hunters are mostly afraid of being in the "real" forests and out in our wet weather. The thickness of our wetside forests scares them and gives them claustrophobia. Also, the size of our Rosies may give them diarrhea and nausea. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Nice :chuckle
Post by: bloodhound on December 29, 2011, 09:57:00 AM
Post by: Elk whack master on December 29, 2011, 10:02:49 AM
Post by: Elk whack master on December 29, 2011, 10:33:18 AM
Post by: Seabass on December 29, 2011, 02:32:42 PM
Post by: Coastal_native on December 29, 2011, 03:15:41 PM
You used the term " west side tough" and then wanted to know how to protect your bow? I have heard the term Montana tough or country strong but never west side tough.
West side toughness can only be trully appreciated through experience.
When the vegetation is so thick that you spend more time falling and rolling over brush than you do walking....when you can literally spend all morning trying to get a few hundred yards...when the rain is so hard and the brush is so thick that waterproof durable clothing is something that only exists in Narnia...when your wife is always complaining about fir needles, everygreen huck leaves, and moss showing up in the bed sheets and clogging up the washer machine...when your arms are so scared up from crab apple that you can't grow hair anymore...when "spot and stalk" is replaced with "stalk and hopefully spot"....
Those are just a few situatons that give a person westside toughness.
Post by: bloodhound on December 29, 2011, 03:52:48 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 29, 2011, 05:33:26 PM
when you say to your buddy i don't want to pack anything out of that he ll hole, then see an animal and go in after it anyway. that is west side tough!
This could turn into something like the Chuck Norris thread.[/i
When you're used to tying elk down so they don't slide down the hill while you're cutting them up, you might be hunting the wetside.
Post by: billythekidrock on December 29, 2011, 05:45:18 PM
You used the term " west side tough" and then wanted to know how to protect your bow? I have heard the term Montana tough or country strong but never west side tough.
West side toughness can only be trully appreciated through experience.
When the vegetation is so thick that you spend more time falling and rolling over brush than you do walking....when you can literally spend all morning trying to get a few hundred yards...when the rain is so hard and the brush is so thick that waterproof durable clothing is something that only exists in Narnia...when your wife is always complaining about fir needles, everygreen huck leaves, and moss showing up in the bed sheets and clogging up the washer machine...when your arms are so scared up from crab apple that you can't grow hair anymore...when "spot and stalk" is replaced with "stalk and hopefully spot"....
Those are just a few situatons that give a person westside toughness.
When you have to explain to people that "it's not a rash on my arm, face, leg.....it's Devils Club.
When you walk a windfall 8 feet off the ground.....and the "brush" is still 8 feet over your head.
Post by: bloodhound on December 29, 2011, 05:56:24 PM
Post by: foambeetle on December 29, 2011, 07:52:22 PM
if you've ever considered the merits of an avalanche beacon as you drop into a nasty hole after an elk
Post by: robodad on December 29, 2011, 09:39:24 PM
Post by: bloodhound on December 29, 2011, 10:00:02 PM
Post by: JLS on December 30, 2011, 10:10:10 AM
You used the term " west side tough" and then wanted to know how to protect your bow? I have heard the term Montana tough or country strong but never west side tough.
West side toughness can only be trully appreciated through experience.
When the vegetation is so thick that you spend more time falling and rolling over brush than you do walking....when you can literally spend all morning trying to get a few hundred yards...when the rain is so hard and the brush is so thick that waterproof durable clothing is something that only exists in Narnia...when your wife is always complaining about fir needles, everygreen huck leaves, and moss showing up in the bed sheets and clogging up the washer machine...when your arms are so scared up from crab apple that you can't grow hair anymore...when "spot and stalk" is replaced with "stalk and hopefully spot"....
Those are just a few situatons that give a person westside toughness.
Having lived in Grays Harbor as a kid, I'll say that it's got nothing on Northern Idaho when it comes to brush!
Post by: Seabass on December 30, 2011, 11:31:01 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 30, 2011, 11:35:18 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 30, 2011, 11:38:53 AM
The nastiest I.have been in has been a blackberry choked clearcut on westside. Those are hideous... tasty... but hideous to manouger through.
Just be careful working through brush and your bow.will be fine. They are.sturdy pieces of equipment.
Post by: colockumelk on December 30, 2011, 07:06:08 PM
Post by: bloodhound on December 30, 2011, 09:25:18 PM
You guys realize that there are a lot places in the west that have thick brush and big vertical drops. I took a couple coasties to Wyoming with me a few years ago and it took them 2 days to catch their breath.
taking guys used to 200' to 5000-10,000' yahh there gonna have some breathing issues!
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 31, 2011, 07:38:51 AM
There Is thick brush everywhere. But the my brush isthicker than yours.are always funny. Like my dad can beat up.your.dad!
The nastiest I.have been in has been a blackberry choked clearcut on westside. Those are hideous... tasty... but hideous to manouger through.
Just be careful working through brush and your bow.will be fine. They are.sturdy pieces of equipment.
I hunted Winston in the late season. I was going downhill through some really thick reprod and started getting into the blackberries. At one point, I fell in a burrow that was completely covered and almost broke my leg. My arms and legs were really bleeding from all of the thorn rips. Later that day, we got stopped on a license check and when I handed the gamie my license, he saw the blood all over my hand and got curious really fast, even after I explained it got there from pushing through the blackberries. That thick stuff mixed with blackberries is the pits.
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on December 31, 2011, 11:01:06 AM
Had a similar experience, man I hate blackberries !!There Is thick brush everywhere. But the my brush isthicker than yours.are always funny. Like my dad can beat up.your.dad!
The nastiest I.have been in has been a blackberry choked clearcut on westside. Those are hideous... tasty... but hideous to manouger through.
Just be careful working through brush and your bow.will be fine. They are.sturdy pieces of equipment.
I hunted Winston in the late season. I was going downhill through some really thick reprod and started getting into the blackberries. At one point, I fell in a burrow that was completely covered and almost broke my leg. My arms and legs were really bleeding from all of the thorn rips. Later that day, we got stopped on a license check and when I handed the gamie my license, he saw the blood all over my hand and got curious really fast, even after I explained it got there from pushing through the blackberries. That thick stuff mixed with blackberries is the pits.
Also just does not seem like I tried hard enough, until I follow an "easy" trail down into a creek bottom, slip on the mud, reach out for something, and get a handful of Devils Club !
Post by: huntndad on December 31, 2011, 02:35:37 PM
One last piece of advice is to always check your equipment after you take a hard fall, which you will. Two years ago I fell face first and landed hard on my bow. I did a quick check and everything looked fine. The next morning I had an elk coming in so I nocked an arrow. The elk never gave me a shot, which turned out to be a blessing because when I look at my arrow, it was just kind of dangling there, cracked right in the middle. I proceeded to check the rest of my arrows, and 3 of the 6 were broke.
Post by: yajsab on January 01, 2012, 09:31:45 PM
Post by: colockumelk on January 02, 2012, 11:55:08 AM
All good suggestions already. If the Iceman is like my Admiral, you should consider carrying a backup string and a big allen wrench to change the string. Don't need a press.
The Iceman is your Admiral only it has a single cam system rather than the binary cam.