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Title: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: rpm4463 on December 29, 2011, 07:13:49 PM
Has anybody ever used the NICE 6500, or any pack that incorporates the NICE frame from Mystery Ranch?  It seems like a very interesting design, but it is missing a scabbard for bow and/or rifle.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: ridgefire on December 29, 2011, 10:16:00 PM
my buddy bought the crew cab and has been happy with it. i looked at them when i was buying a pack but ended up going with a kifaru
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: Salmo on December 31, 2011, 09:53:45 PM
MR's are heavy.  But tough as hell.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: high country on December 31, 2011, 10:26:08 PM
I use the nice frame with a 5500 pack and a homemade gun bearer similar to kifaru. For light loads, any pack will do.....for heavy loads, a good fitting top quality pack will make up for its weight in spades.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: link on February 12, 2012, 03:25:56 PM
Anyone know of any retailers that carry the Mystery Ranch backpacks? I'd like to go and take a look at one.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: MDGrand on February 13, 2012, 08:12:13 AM
I have the Crew Cab with the NICE frame. It is heavier.. BUT.. because it fits so well, it is VERY comfortable and super strong. Consequently, I do not notice the larger weight at all.

 The nice thing about the Crew Cab is it is a "do everything" pack. I keep it all zipped up and tied down to the small 1900 CI size for the most part, but I have the load cells for those long trips too that grows to 5000 CI.

As far as the scabbard.. in all honesty, if you want to stow your rifle or bow, you can do it very simply behind the first compartment in the Crew Cab. Is it as quickly accessible as perhaps a Eberlestock scabbard?.. no. BUT, I had the Eberlestock X1 backpack, and in my humble opinion, the scabbard is a bit over rated. It is not that easy to grab or take out your rifle and more than likely you will always want to remove your backpack anyway for a shot.

Also, one thing to to consider with those scabbards that hang below your belt with the muzzle pointed down.. is that if you slip.. and I have, you slam your barrel down on the ground. You also have to remove your rifle to sit down. I like to sit down with my backpack on often to rest. It sucked having to take the rifle out, sit down, and then try on my own to get it back in the scabbard.. which despite the videos, is NOT that easy, especially if you have gear loaded down.

So.. to each his own.. and my  :twocents: after trying the Eberlestock X1, the Badlands Superday and now the Mystery Ranch Crew Cab... I will stick and stay with my Crew Cab.. I honestly feel like I bought the absolute LAST pack I will ever need.  As evidence, I sold my X1, returned the superday and sold my REI Mars pack after buying the Crew Cab.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: colockumelk on February 26, 2012, 10:39:24 AM
MDGrand I am currently torn between the Longbow and the Crew Cab. I have read and seen pics of how to haul meat at the same time with the Longbow but.... How do you haul out load cells AND meat at the same time?  Basically I want a pack that I can use as a day pack that can haul out meat. And a pack that I can do a 4 day bivy hunt and haul my gear and meat out on the first trip. I think both can do it. But with the Crew Cab I'm not sure how you haul load cells and meat at once.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: MDGrand on February 26, 2012, 12:15:31 PM
MDGrand I am currently torn between the Longbow and the Crew Cab. I have read and seen pics of how to haul meat at the same time with the Longbow but.... How do you haul out load cells AND meat at the same time?  Basically I want a pack that I can use as a day pack that can haul out meat. And a pack that I can do a 4 day bivy hunt and haul my gear and meat out on the first trip. I think both can do it. But with the Crew Cab I'm not sure how you haul load cells and meat at once.

Well, Colockum... Both IMHO are great packs. However the crew cab offers more versatility and size when needed. The longbow is only 2400ci from what I see. Whereas the crew cab has the abilty to go to 5000ci, something the longbow cant do. Most important the crew cabs ability to grow makes it great for taking out quarters. You do pose and interesting question though.. What happens when you have all the cells and meat?... Well, my guess would be that you transfer your cells to a friend or because of the multiple tie downs on the crew, you could tie meat or the cells. I think the options are unlimited with the crew vs the long bow.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: colockumelk on February 26, 2012, 01:35:21 PM
I found a picture that shows a a guy with 1 large load cell in the bottom of the load bay and a cape/head/antlers on top of that.  I think that for a fpur day bivy hunt I could get away with just the day lid and 1 large load cell. I like the Crew Cabs versatility better than the Longbow but like the design of carrying meat and gear of the longbow better.
Title: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: briancorneal on February 26, 2012, 02:58:24 PM
I've owned all sorts of hunting packs (eberlestock, badlands, etc) but by far, the mystery ranch nice 6500 is the most comfortable and durable pack out of them.  The mystery ranch pack puts all of the weight where it needs to be, on your hips, and not on your shoulders.  I've owned much lighter packs, and I've paid for it with pain and discomfort.  A lighter load (45lbs) in a lighter pack is comparable to a heavier load (70lbs) in the mystery ranch packs.  You wont notice the weight of a load as much as you would in a lighter pack.  I paid a lot for my nice 6500, but it was totally worth it.  They're customer service is second to none and they'll even tell you if the pack is fitting you correctly if you take a pic and email it to them.  Dana Gleason (founder of MR) has been making packs for decades.  Dana designs was bought out by Marmot, then he started MR.  His Dana design packs are still in high demand even though they haven't been manufactured for years. That in itself says a lot.  Try them and you won't be disappointed. 
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: 400out on February 26, 2012, 03:46:40 PM
They look like nice packs! They are spendy though
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: Benny on February 27, 2012, 02:03:52 PM
CC's are great for hauling meat...kind of a pain for meat and camp. This was a bivy camp along with a boned out buck. Early season, warm weather, no spotter...light camp. I wouldn't expect to go on a 7 day trip with a Crew Cab. 6500 IMO would be a much better one bag set up.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1187.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz399%2Fbenpentecost%2FPic1.jpg&hash=98bbbda7f6b14e7e7e73aec3ec8ca97eba86e5ad)
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: MDGrand on February 27, 2012, 02:19:57 PM
How many load cells is that?

I JUST got my CC last year.. plan on getting it in motion this year durring the early season. I have all the load cells and the day lid.. is that what you have here?
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: Benny on February 29, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
That picture only has one large load cell and the lid. Hopefully you'll get lots of use out of yours!
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: high country on February 29, 2012, 02:34:53 PM
I usually take just my cover bag and the frame once I get to camp....I use a early 5500 and it is perfect for as long as i have wanted to go.

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Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: MAVsled on February 29, 2012, 10:25:43 PM
the MR's are great looking packs.

I just purchased a new Badlands OX. sold my Eberlestock J34, too uncomfortable for me. Funny, I did love my Eberlestock J104 up until it was stolen from my rig.

if the OX doesn't cut it on a experimental hiking trip (as hunting is closed), I may move on (finally) to the Mystery Ranch packs too.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: dreamingbig on March 01, 2012, 09:56:38 PM
I have considered the ox.  I am in the market if a good deal pops up.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: high country on March 02, 2012, 08:30:28 AM
If you ever see a dana designs or k2 frame pack, they had a couple different models.....buy it. It is the gpld standard of freighter packs still.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: 400out on March 02, 2012, 09:16:52 AM
I have looked at the dana design and it's a great pack but just not really a hunting pack mising some of those key compontents (atleast for me) I keep coming back to the Eberlestock but haven't ben sold on them yet. if they had a litle more compartments I'm sure I would have one sitting in my house now but they don't and for a bivy hunt I'm not sure I would like having everything in one main compatment. but I do love the scabbard I think it's one of the things that keeps me coming back. as for the badlands I need to put one on and haul some meat to see if I would like them, therer is something I just don't like about theirs! Can't put my finger on it but there just is! good thing I have a couple months to figure this out  ;)
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: high country on March 02, 2012, 09:46:54 AM
One of my $2.00 gunbearers and you will park the scabbard for ever.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: 400out on March 02, 2012, 09:48:41 AM
One of my $2.00 gunbearers and you will park the scabbard for ever.
:dunno: fill me in! I missed something  ;)
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: dreamingbig on March 02, 2012, 10:09:25 AM
http://kifaru.net/gunbearer_hunt.html (http://kifaru.net/gunbearer_hunt.html)

I think something like this is what he was referring too.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: 400out on March 02, 2012, 10:12:06 AM
I would have to see that in action. I know I wouldn't want the gun tucked under my arm and the barrel in my face  :twocents: I know the badlands has a scabbard but (like on the ox) it's strapped to the back of the pack, that's definitely not where I want my gun in rough country
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: MDGrand on March 02, 2012, 10:56:40 AM
http://kifaru.net/gunbearer_hunt.html (http://kifaru.net/gunbearer_hunt.html)

I think something like this is what he was referring too.

Im with 400out...

I would really like to see that in action.. it LOOKS easy enough, but I wonder how easy it really is.. looks like it might be in the way consistently being tucked in the arm pit area? is that right?

As I have said before... I don't like the Eberstock design scabbard because the muzzle is pointed down below your waste, which means you CAN NOT sit down with the pack on unless you remove the rifle AND if you slip on your but, the muzzle slams down on the ground.

I would love to see more info on the Gunbearer though.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: 400out on March 02, 2012, 11:02:12 AM
I would rather have to muzzle go in he ground padded than the whole thing directly on the back of the pack like the badlands ox  :bdid:
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: MDGrand on March 02, 2012, 11:15:46 AM
I would rather have to muzzle go in he ground padded than the whole thing directly on the back of the pack like the badlands ox  :bdid:

You make a point, but I was talking about slipping and landing on your but, not falling down on your back... I am not a fan of the badlands scabbard either to tell you the truth...

besides the scope, the muzzle is the next worst place to have a collission with and the very fact that I climb a lot of steep hillls where I go and slipping on your but is somewhat of a higher factor, I wont risk it with either.

Another thought on that Gunbearer.. the guy in the Kifaru photo had his rifle tucked back into his armpit area with a pretty small scope... would that be AS comfortable with a bigger normal 40mm scope?
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: WAcoueshunter on March 02, 2012, 11:37:49 AM
I got the longbow last fall and really like it.  Most of the time I don't need all the extra room of the CC, so I'm happy to shed the extra couple pounds and the extra width that comes with the CC.  I've only hauled out one animal with it - a 46 lb. javelina (whole) - but it was pretty easy and comfortably to secure the animal between the frame and pack.  Total weight was about 75 lbs., and it was very comfortable.   
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: 400out on March 02, 2012, 02:15:58 PM
ANother thing about the all in one pack is the scabbard being on the left side  :dunno: I just don't get that. I even took my rifle to the store and put the pack on and took my gun out and I will tell you the right side would be better  :twocents: Plus it's hard to get back in
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: colockumelk on March 02, 2012, 03:02:40 PM
I have been doing research for the last two years on which pack to buy. First I liked the Badlands 4500, then the Eberlestock Blue Widow. Then the Ox. Then the Crew Cab for a LONG time. Then for the last month it was the Eberlestock Warhammer. And then finally back to the Crew Cab. I was poking around looking at reviews the other day and found an in depth one about the Longbow. Now that I have seen and read about the Mystery Ranch Longbow I am completely sold on the Longbow. I think this pack can do everything I need it to do from day hunts all the way to a four day bivy hunt. This pack is gonna be mine on my birthday.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: high country on March 02, 2012, 03:44:36 PM
I don't have an action pic of mine, but it is beyond simple. I made a saddle for my stock to sit in out of boat trailer winch webbing....simple loop with a floor. There is a belt loop that comes off of that at to attach to my pack waist belt. On my shoulder strap I run a qr buckle on a strap, similar to what you may use to hold a sleeping bag on a pack.....this simply loops around my rifle to let it move naturally. In one second it can be ready....just hit the buckle. The muzzle points slightly forward and up. In 5 years of backcountry use it has never been a pain. I hunt with treking poles and it allows me freedom of movement with my arms at nearly no weight penalty. After have a pack filled with meat and a bear coming at me nose down....I will always have my gun available.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: high country on March 02, 2012, 03:47:21 PM
Clock, you might do some digging, I bought my mr pack from a guy in the air force here at fairchild, he told me they got a smoking buy on them....i bought it as new for $100.00
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: colockumelk on March 02, 2012, 06:06:00 PM
WOW! That is an incredible deal. Congrats on that deal. Yeah I will definately check around.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: Wild Bill on March 02, 2012, 07:34:54 PM
I have and have used both. As previously mention, they are comfy. HEAVY!!! its a give and take as with every thing else. I have hauled a bunch of elk meat, and even seen a drunk carried around in one (dont ask). The removable cells are a good idea, but add pounds in material. The cells seem to be fairly water resistant.
Alot of troops use them as extended mission rucks down range, but your loaded heavy already so you may as well be comfy as well. Colockum, if (judging by your picture) your a 64 pilot, i'm sure theres more than a couple dozen short and long tab guys, as well as JTAC's who are alive because of your mindset with those  30mm rnds and rockets  :rockin: :rockin: :rockin: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun: :mgun:. Give one a call. They get em issued.  ;)
WB
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: Wild Bill on March 02, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
Clock, you might do some digging, I bought my mr pack from a guy in the air force here at fairchild, he told me they got a smoking buy on them....i bought it as new for $100.00

 :yike: That never happened! lol.... I'm sure he is a SERE guy (only ones on that side who get em), and definitely did not buy anything :chuckle:
Good for you though :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: ;)
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: high country on March 04, 2012, 06:48:58 AM
The packs are heavy.....that is a fact. I fought that for a long time until I tried one. When it is loaded with my deer and camp I find it mucho more comfy than any lightweight pack with less weight.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: Ridgerunner on March 04, 2012, 07:00:51 AM
I'll say the crew cab as a daypack is pretty unbelievable, you can cinch that thing down to a super low low profile and it carries very well.  For 3-4 day trips I think it works well with the load cells as well, but anything over that and a 6500 bag would be nice to have.  I don't think I'll be buying another backpack though, for me the MR is enough, I've sold all my other packs.
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: Ridgerunner on March 04, 2012, 07:01:53 AM
Sticker shock on these is real, but you can get some good deals on used ones, I found mine off monstermuleys, got the CC plus the daypack lid and 3 load cells on a practically new pack for only $500, a 33% savings!
Title: Re: Mystery Ranch backpacks
Post by: couesbitten on March 04, 2012, 09:00:22 AM
There's a guy over on the http://www.rokslide.com/ website in the classifieds, that is selling a Crew Cab with two load cells for $470, saving someone about $100.
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