Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 02, 2012, 10:08:32 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2012, 10:11:29 AM
Post by: 400out on January 02, 2012, 10:14:23 AM
Post by: Huntbear on January 02, 2012, 10:15:27 AM
Post by: birdwacker on January 02, 2012, 10:20:39 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 02, 2012, 10:21:49 AM
.338 WM. Shoot the 225 gr. accubonds and it will knock elk flat at 500 yds. Has way more energy and retains way more velocity than the 7 mag. It is an elk killing rifle, and is a great long range deer gun.either one will work just fine. 7mm will do it much cheaper if you're not reloading. 500 yards is perfect range for the 7mm. Don't forget to look at the short mags too.
Post by: C-Money on January 02, 2012, 10:29:39 AM
Post by: Quackin_Archer on January 02, 2012, 11:42:20 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 02, 2012, 11:44:58 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 02, 2012, 11:57:39 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on January 02, 2012, 12:00:12 PM
.300 Remington Ultramagnum.
Post by: elkslayer069 on January 02, 2012, 12:04:16 PM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on January 02, 2012, 12:08:52 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 02, 2012, 12:18:03 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 02, 2012, 12:43:10 PM
Definitely a 7 mag. If you want to kill deer at 500 yards it's your huckleberry. And it will drop elk like a bad habit with the 168 gr Berger vlds.
:yeah:....excpet with Winchester CXP ammo in 160grn.
Or the .408 cheytac that hoffa mentioned.... Have shot it before...Dead accurate beyond 1500yds :chuckle:
Post by: Fowlweather25 on January 02, 2012, 12:50:54 PM
For flat shooting, 500 yds, and elk I'd suggest: .338 Lapua, .338 RUM, .338 Edge, .338-378 Wby or even go up to a .416 Barret or .408 CheyTac.
I guess. If ya wanna cut a deer in half. :yike: Which is the main game he wants to pursue.
Post by: FC on January 02, 2012, 01:02:24 PM
I guess. If ya wanna cut a deer in half. :yike: Which is the main game he wants to pursue.
I was thinking that maybe 105 shells would be in order for a few guys here :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
If the .243 was getting it done for you before, why not get another one? 6mm, 25 06 and 270 are all good flat shooting cartridges too.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 02, 2012, 01:10:58 PM
The guys I've known that have used bigger, like the .50 BMG have lost a leg or vaccummed out the chest cavity but nothing too bad. The only animal I remember getting cut in half was a rabbit from a .30-06 springfield.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 02, 2012, 01:19:08 PM
Everyone answered with cartidge selections! C'mon! He's just starting to reload, and you're throwing wildcat cartridges at him? Get real.
SS Tikka T3 in 300 or 325wsm or 280RemAI. (The AI is not a wildcat, but a rechambering that still fires factory ammo. Maybe something to do once you've got some reloading experience under your belt. The advantages are worth it.)
.. I don't know that if I had the extra coin sitting in my budget if that would be my next rifle, but that rifle and chamberings would fit your requirements nicely. I am also a 30-06 fan for your purposes.
-Steve
Post by: jaymark6655 on January 02, 2012, 01:30:32 PM
For flat shooting, 500 yds, and elk I'd suggest: .338 Lapua, .338 RUM, .338 Edge, .338-378 Wby or even go up to a .416 Barret or .408 CheyTac.Too weak, for deadly game like deer you need the 20mm. http://www.anzioironworks.com/MAG-FED-20MM-RIFLE.htm
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 02, 2012, 01:32:17 PM
Post by: silverdalesauer on January 02, 2012, 01:36:55 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 02, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
If you're adamant that you will be trying to kill something at 500 yards, you probably cannot go wrong with the .300 Win Mag, as far as popularity and flexibility.
Once you get to reloading, popularity in calibers (think 30 caliber) generally equates to increasing options and lower prices on components.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 02, 2012, 01:57:03 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 02, 2012, 02:00:16 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 02, 2012, 02:07:38 PM
It's difficult to recommend a gun (brand/action/set-up) if you don't know what caliber. Example, if someone narrowed it to say .308, I'd say HK 41/91 or springfield M1A. For most standard and light mags I'd go with a browning BAR.
Oh c'mon... An M1A as a hunting arm? Close to ten pounds. (Yes, I know people do it, but but.... ) Hunting rifles should be less than seven or eight pounds in my book. Yes, I'll agree that action selection is offten determined by cartridge selection if you're building a rifle. But not if you're buying off the shelf.
Sorry.. I'm in one of those moods.. Your preference is your preference, but if anyone was to go into a gun shop and give the needs for a hunting rifle as stated, I doubt very much that the first thing pulled down from the shelf will be a $2,700 assault rifle. Even if 308win, (7.52 Nato).
I do wish the OP would have made more specifics..
Bolt action?
Semi-Auto?
Under $800?
Composite or wood stock?
Stainless steel construction?
Questions as posted are like the Ford, Dodge Chevy battles that never end. (except with annual sales reports)
-Steve
Post by: FC on January 02, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
also if i was to get a .270....would you guys get a 270 or wsm? and why
I picked up a tikka t3 in 270 this last year, very light and very accurate, it lives up to the hype and more! I got it in 270 vs 270WSM due to ammo availability and cost of shooting it.
If you are looking for a suggestion as to what rifle to buy I would suggest a tikka, I don't think you can get anything better in anywhere near that price range. Savage also builds a good accurate rifle but be sure you get it in a wood stock, the synthetic can be pretty flexible. My Savage with it's aftermarket stock is heavy and ends up getting carried on my shoulder a lot (sling carried), my tikka is in my hands nearly 100% of the time.
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 02, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
It's difficult to recommend a gun (brand/action/set-up) if you don't know what caliber. Example, if someone narrowed it to say .308, I'd say HK 41/91 or springfield M1A. For most standard and light mags I'd go with a browning BAR.
Oh c'mon... An M1A as a hunting arm? Close to ten pounds. (Yes, I know people do it, but but.... ) Hunting rifles should be less than seven or eight pounds in my book. Yes, I'll agree that action selection is offten determined by cartridge selection if you're building a rifle. But not if you're buying off the shelf.
Sorry.. I'm in one of those moods.. Your preference is your preference, but if anyone was to go into a gun shop and give the needs for a hunting rifle as stated, I doubt very much that the first thing pulled down from the shelf will be a $2,700 assault rifle. Even if 308win, (7.52 Nato).
I do wish the OP would have made more specifics..
Bolt action?
Semi-Auto?
Under $800?
Composite or wood stock?
Stainless steel construction?
Questions as posted are like the Ford, Dodge Chevy battles that never end. (except with annual sales reports)
-Steve
good point lol...stainless steel...composite stock...lookin to spend around $1000 and bolt action...not a fan of semi autos...to many guys just start blastin with them cause they can..i want to be accurate with one shot one kill
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 02, 2012, 02:29:39 PM
also if i was to get a .270....would you guys get a 270 or wsm? and why
I picked up a tikka t3 in 270 this last year, very light and very accurate, it lives up to the hype and more! I got it in 270 vs 270WSM due to ammo availability and cost of shooting it.
If you are looking for a suggestion as to what rifle to buy I would suggest a tikka, I don't think you can get anything better in anywhere near that price range. Savage also builds a good accurate rifle but be sure you get it in a wood stock, the synthetic can be pretty flexible. My Savage with it's aftermarket stock is heavy and ends up getting carried on my shoulder a lot (sling carried), my tikka is in my hands nearly 100% of the time.
ive been hearing tikka's alot lately...sounds like everyone likes them...what did yours set you back?
Post by: FC on January 02, 2012, 02:34:14 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 02, 2012, 02:38:36 PM
-Steve
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 02, 2012, 02:43:16 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2012, 02:47:40 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2012, 02:51:31 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 02, 2012, 02:51:52 PM
I think you need to go to a store and just window shop, for the few brands/models that have been listed, and see what fits you. Pull some up,, get a little touchy feely on several and see what feels comfortable, then come back to us with a list of three in your price range that felt good to you.
-Steve
Post by: jager on January 02, 2012, 03:00:27 PM
I'd look at a 270 WSM. Ballistics are a bit better than.270. :tup:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 02, 2012, 03:01:37 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2012, 03:20:10 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 02, 2012, 03:22:59 PM
7mm mag would be my choice.
+1 :yeah:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 02, 2012, 03:34:48 PM
Post by: upwind on January 02, 2012, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: jaymark6655 on January 02, 2012, 03:56:55 PM
Post by: C-Money on January 03, 2012, 11:53:49 AM
also if i was to get a .270....would you guys get a 270 or wsm? and why270 win is what I hunt with. It works and ammo is every where. 270wsm ammo is not every where. I reload, but its a good feeling to have access to ammo if needed. The 270wsm does not have a big enough advantage over the 270win for me to buy one. My Best good friend FF4607 shoots the 270wsm, and it works fine, and it is a great cartridge.
We are Browning A-Bolt people.
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 04, 2012, 07:38:46 AM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on January 04, 2012, 12:21:08 PM
Post by: Curly on January 04, 2012, 12:38:14 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 09, 2012, 12:10:17 PM
Post by: FC on January 09, 2012, 04:54:35 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 09, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Post by: kglacken on January 09, 2012, 06:08:00 PM
Post by: FC on January 09, 2012, 06:09:51 PM
Scope? http://www.amazon.com/Accupoint-Standard-Crosshair-Riflescope-Green/dp/B0026O1GFG
From what you have said so far if it's under about $2000 for the package you got a real winner :P
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 09, 2012, 06:13:25 PM