Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 13, 2012, 08:30:12 AM
Post by: Arteman on January 13, 2012, 08:35:12 AM
Post by: JohnVH on January 13, 2012, 08:36:50 AM
Darn, I thought I was going to get to see a pic of a HOT Coweeman resident!!!! :chuckle:
hahaha +1
Post by: lokidog on January 13, 2012, 08:39:41 AM
Darn, I thought I was going to get to see a pic of a HOT Coweeman resident!!!! :chuckle:
Good luck with that.... :chuckle:
This issue is the same in my mind as beer cans and other garbage being left in the woods by all users. Unfortunately, it is easy to point to a single user group as responsib;le for this garbage. Seems to me the carcass weighs a lot less going back to the woods than getting it home, why can't people at least drag it off out of sight? Just frickin lazy! I had to launch my boat past two deer carcasses laying on the ramp at Borst Park one year.
Post by: Arteman on January 13, 2012, 08:39:53 AM
Post by: Buckmark on January 13, 2012, 08:44:10 AM
http://tdn.com/lifestyles/lengthened-elk-hunting-season-worries-some-hunters/article_72dd198c-3d85-11e1-adc4-001871e3ce6c.html
Post by: Arteman on January 13, 2012, 08:46:12 AM
Yeah, it is getting pretty bad around here. I don't blame Weco or surrounding Timber companies for locking their land up. Just about every gate at the end of a paved road is loaded with trash. I guess thats better and easier to clean than off a landing way out in boonies!Darn, I thought I was going to get to see a pic of a HOT Coweeman resident!!!! :chuckle:
Good luck with that.... :chuckle:
This issue is the same in my mind as beer cans and other garbage being left in the woods by all users. Unfortunately, it is easy to point to a single user group as responsib;le for this garbage. Seems to me the carcass weighs a lot less going back to the woods than getting it home, why can't people at least drag it off out of sight? Just frickin lazy! I had to launch my boat past two deer carcasses laying on the ramp at Borst Park one year.
Post by: Miles on January 13, 2012, 08:46:29 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,89987.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,89987.0.html)
I can't imagine why people wouldn't enjoy seeing this right in the middle of the road? :rolleyes:
Post by: Fowlweather25 on January 13, 2012, 08:49:26 AM
Post by: Miles on January 13, 2012, 08:51:20 AM
Not sure but I thought the post said he moved them off the road with a shovel
That's what he said initially, then on page three he changed his mind.
Yelm, nice job on the cow. I really hope you guys pushed the gutpile off to the side of the road and didn't leave laying in the middle as can be seen in the picture. Spur road or not, just common courtesyThey are trying to completely clean out that unit... Sad really.... Why are they doing this, is it WEYCO's lobbying? It is not management, there's plenty of feed in there for the elk.
Yes Weyco is pushing for the increased numbers. And Olympia is buying into the lopsided numbers.
NO I LEFT THE GUTPILE IN THE SPUR ROAD!!
Post by: Fowlweather25 on January 13, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
Post by: bobcat on January 13, 2012, 09:07:18 AM
gutpiles their were being left off the sides of the roads and in the middle of the roads ... now its hard to say if it is whitemen or indians
Or Mexicans, Asians, or black people? :dunno:
Post by: Fowlweather25 on January 13, 2012, 09:17:22 AM
Post by: Arteman on January 13, 2012, 09:21:00 AM
Post by: lokidog on January 13, 2012, 09:35:13 AM
Post by: Bob33 on January 13, 2012, 09:39:39 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 13, 2012, 09:45:52 AM
Did find this artical, is this it or something different?I thought you wanted rid of me :chuckle: :chuckle: lets see if Greenbay can win one .... :chuckle:
http://tdn.com/lifestyles/lengthened-elk-hunting-season-worries-some-hunters/article_72dd198c-3d85-11e1-adc4-001871e3ce6c.html
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 13, 2012, 09:49:19 AM
Post by: Arteman on January 13, 2012, 09:51:50 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 13, 2012, 09:52:42 AM
Did find this artical, is this it or something different?YEAH that may be it ... sounds like it ..
http://tdn.com/lifestyles/lengthened-elk-hunting-season-worries-some-hunters/article_72dd198c-3d85-11e1-adc4-001871e3ce6c.html
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 13, 2012, 09:54:43 AM
o.k I forgot a couple :dunno: :chuckle:gutpiles their were being left off the sides of the roads and in the middle of the roads ... now its hard to say if it is whitemen or indians
Or Mexicans, Asians, or black people? :dunno:
Post by: Buckmark on January 13, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
:dunno: Never have said i wanted rid of you, your cheap entertainment :chuckle:, would like to turn off your :yeah: feature..... and Go Patriots.........Did find this artical, is this it or something different?I thought you wanted rid of me :chuckle: :chuckle: lets see if Greenbay can win one .... :chuckle:
http://tdn.com/lifestyles/lengthened-elk-hunting-season-worries-some-hunters/article_72dd198c-3d85-11e1-adc4-001871e3ce6c.html
Post by: wrongway on January 13, 2012, 10:49:53 AM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on January 13, 2012, 10:59:34 AM
Did find this artical, is this it or something different?I thought you wanted rid of me :chuckle: :chuckle: lets see if Greenbay can win one .... :chuckle:
http://tdn.com/lifestyles/lengthened-elk-hunting-season-worries-some-hunters/article_72dd198c-3d85-11e1-adc4-001871e3ce6c.html
:dunno: Never have said i wanted rid of you, your cheap entertainment :chuckle:, would like to turn off your :yeah: feature..... and Go Patriots.........
:yeah: hahaha :chuckle:
Post by: gotcha on January 13, 2012, 05:08:35 PM
Post by: HairTrigger on January 13, 2012, 05:15:50 PM
. now its hard to say if it is whitemen or indians but either way I think it is disrespectful to all residents and other hunters to practice such activity... This leaves a bad taste in everyone mouth ..He is bringing me the paper home with him so I can read it .. :bdid: :dunno:REALLY YOU HAD TO GO THERE HUH
WELL WE CANNOT HUNT COWS SINCE THE 1ST OF THE YEAR
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on January 13, 2012, 05:26:05 PM
People are just lazy and the wildlife department gave out way to many tags. When do the animals ever get a rest. Oh ya i guess in a couple days they will.After the WDFW reduces the herd, and everyone complains about how tough it is to harvest an animal in this state.
Seems like they pick a different herd every 3 years to reduce, just to make some happy, by giving out cow permits.
Then everyone complains about the regs...
Why not increase the season to keep the harvest up ?,
hunters are happy with more days afield, harvest increases, and cows remain in the herd to produce "calf recruitment" and future harvest,
instead they kill the cows, reduce calf recruitment and herd size, reduce opportunity, and pretend they are helping the herd ?
Oh, ya, people are just lazy, and want to get an elk with minimal effort, or complain that they have to choose a weapon, or only get a few days to hunt, yet rarely get away from a road to leave their gut-piles and carcases on... :bash:
Post by: HntnFsh on January 13, 2012, 05:28:11 PM
Post by: furbearer365 on January 13, 2012, 06:11:27 PM
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Technically you are right, but i think there is a difference between the pressure that is given to a pregnant cow in January as opposed to two or three months ago. Winter time is among us and the fetus's are getting good in size. The cows need much more rest and forage to sustain themselves and their calfs. I personally dont believe in these January tags and dont put in for them for that reason. If the WDFW wants to thin the heard, have these tags in Aug and Sept. I think all hunting should be done by the end of November, i think you would see healthier elk the less pressure that is put on them.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 13, 2012, 06:19:49 PM
hey I was not weeding you out for one thing and the other thing is it was my son who had the tag or I would not of even been there...I bought a elk tag 3 yrs in a row now and never left the house :yeah: just guess I like donating to this sportsmen loving state :sry:. now its hard to say if it is whitemen or indians but either way I think it is disrespectful to all residents and other hunters to practice such activity... This leaves a bad taste in everyone mouth ..He is bringing me the paper home with him so I can read it .. :bdid: :dunno:REALLY YOU HAD TO GO THERE HUH
WELL WE CANNOT HUNT COWS SINCE THE 1ST OF THE YEAR
Post by: Arteman on January 13, 2012, 06:33:22 PM
People are just lazy and the wildlife department gave out way to many tags. When do the animals ever get a rest. Oh ya i guess in a couple days they will.Their rest will be short lived, won't be long tell they are chased from here to the ends of the earth tell they drop those antlers. Then and only then will they be completely useless, and not worthy of being chased. That is until September of course. The life of a Elk... and we wonder why they split as soon they catch wind or a glimpse of us, unlike a deer thats sometimes a lil more curious. :chuckle:
Post by: furbearer365 on January 13, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Post by: danderson on January 13, 2012, 06:57:39 PM
Post by: furbearer365 on January 13, 2012, 07:00:29 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on January 13, 2012, 07:04:18 PM
Why cant the fish and game lengthen general seasons and get rid of all the "extra" seasons. I think bow should Sept 1 - Sept 30, muzzle loader from Oct1 - Oct 31 and Rifle form November 1 - November 30 and call it a year. I think the success rates would go up like they want, but the elk would all in all be much healthier due to less pressure throughout the year.Unfortunately, success rates are not what they want to go up, revenue is their only concern.
More money in special permits and Cow tags than in general season (unless it is in towns that have hunters visiting)
They are only managing their $$$, not their sense... :twocents:
Post by: DeerThug on January 13, 2012, 07:12:09 PM
Post by: Arteman on January 13, 2012, 07:18:43 PM
Sounds like you boys need some wolves over there to take care of the problem. They will eat the elk before you kill them and clean up after you get what is left over from their feast.....A pack of wolves I think wouldn't last very long over here, Way to much land access and way to many trigger happy (anti wolf) hunters.
Post by: furbearer365 on January 13, 2012, 07:23:43 PM
More money in special permits and Cow tags than in general season (unless it is in towns that have hunters visiting)
They are only managing their $$$, not their sense... :twocents:
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Exactly, i know what they truely want, i was just refering to what they say they want. When you live smack dab in the middle of it all, you really see how ignorant some of their ideas really pan out to be.
Deerthug, you should listen to Arteman, we call them monster coyotes over here. We just think you eastsiders have the largest coyotes ever. :chuckle:
Post by: elksnout on January 13, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
And personally, I feel those St Helens elk are hunted waaaaaay too hard. Legally from the first week of September to now. I just cannot see where that makes any sense. We all on here say how much we respect and love our elk. I dislike what the mangement plan is up there very much. :twocents:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 13, 2012, 08:44:10 PM