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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: PA BEN on January 21, 2012, 01:27:46 PM

Title: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: PA BEN on January 21, 2012, 01:27:46 PM: Anybody done one? I've never done this before on any gun but would like to try it on my M77. A video or how too's would be nice. Thanks :tup:
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: Huntbear on January 21, 2012, 02:07:08 PM: Check out youtube.com. i can pm yousome help but itv will be later today as i am on my phone. Not my computer.
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: PA BEN on January 21, 2012, 02:54:03 PM: You tub has some but there not to detailed.
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: Emptyhanded on January 21, 2012, 04:51:11 PM: This should help...
http://24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3003214/1/DIY_bedding_M77_pic_heavy
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: PA BEN on January 21, 2012, 07:32:12 PM: Thanks :tup:
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: PA BEN on January 22, 2012, 07:22:18 AM: I see that some bed the first 1" or so of the barrel. I also have seen some videos where they bed the full length of the barrel channel in the stock too. I floated my barrel but I didn’t take all the wood off the end of my M77. It shot well, but the groups opened up after a few shots. So I removed the rest of the wood and it opened up the groups from the first shot. :bash: Still good for hunting but I would like to get it back to stacking the bullets on top of each other. My missed head shot on a cow elk last year has me very upset. :'( I killed a deer at 250yds in the head before I started screwing with it. My elk was only 180yds w/a very solid rest. If you just bed the end wouldn't moisture in the stock swell the wood and move barrel? You know, like hunting in the rain for 5 days. :dunno:
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: Jason on January 22, 2012, 08:57:22 AM: Quote from: PA BEN on January 22, 2012, 07:22:18 AM
I see that some bed the first 1" or so of the barrel. I also have seen some videos where they bed the full length of the barrel channel in the stock too. I floated my barrel but I didn’t take all the wood off the end of my M77. It shot well, but the groups opened up after a few shots. So I removed the rest of the wood and it opened up the groups from the first shot. :bash: Still good for hunting but I would like to get it back to stacking the bullets on top of each other. My missed head shot on a cow elk last year has me very upset. :'( I killed a deer at 250yds in the head before I started screwing with it. My elk was only 180yds w/a very solid rest. If you just bed the end wouldn't moisture in the stock swell the wood and move barrel? You know, like hunting in the rain for 5 days. :dunno:
If you properly restain and seal the barrel channel after your done floating your barrel then it should not swell.
And when your at the range shooting, check the clearance between the barrel and the channel when its warm.
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: high country on January 22, 2012, 10:16:16 AM: Ben, you changed the harmonics of your barrel by altering its contact point. Wood does not just swell, but move in odd ways based on atmosphere. Float it at least .050" and seal it up. You will likely need to alter your pet load. I have bedded a lot of different ways, but now I am sold on action only.
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: PA BEN on January 22, 2012, 11:03:40 AM: My pet load went away after I fully floated it. Been playing around w/loads and can only group 1.5". I will bed the action and go from there. The read that Emptyhanded posted talks about this on M77's. One person said to use shot gun wads cut to shim the stock. I have time before season to play w/it. I have a trigger on order when it comes in I will bed the action and see what happens. I talked to a gunsmith and he said M77's need support for the barrel.
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: high country on January 22, 2012, 11:26:36 AM: Assuming you are a handloader, give a ladder test a go and see what the rifle tells you. Screw tension on Rugers can be pretty important....especially the middle screw.
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: PA BEN on January 22, 2012, 12:12:45 PM: Quote from: high country on January 22, 2012, 11:26:36 AM
Assuming you are a handloader, give a ladder test a go and see what the rifle tells you. Screw tension on Rugers can be pretty important....especially the middle screw.
I do hand load. Still new at it. Where can you find tork settings for guns? BTW, I love to learn about guns. When I pull the pin on work, I would like to gunsmith on the side. Like my job now the school of hard nocks is the best way to go, if you know what I mean. :tup:
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: high country on January 22, 2012, 06:34:10 PM: You'll do it for love, not money. It takes about a new pickup worth of cash to get all the tooling to spin a rifle....and more every day. Thankfully I have been able to pay cash for my tools and use them to build more. My wife thinks there is a chick hiding in my shop because I am always in there...lol.
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: PA BEN on January 23, 2012, 03:53:00 PM: It is for the love of it. I don't think I will ever be a gunsmith making money at it. I have a Norinco 1911A1 that I have worked over with after market parts form Wilson Combat. Had to do some work on the feed ramp, fit a bever tail, etc...
Love to work on my own guns. :tup:
Title: Re: Glass bedding Ruger m77 markII
Post by: krism83 on September 30, 2012, 04:18:27 PM: So my question is how did the follow up go on this project? I have been tossing around the idea of doing this to my M77, however I have a synthetic stock not wood...