Post by: maddog on January 21, 2012, 10:33:59 PM
Post by: FC on January 21, 2012, 10:43:04 PM
http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17832&cat=261&page=1
and have a look at the 1 in 8 version if you want to shoot 55gr and heavier bullets. Match it with the lower of your choice with a good trigger and you are set.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 21, 2012, 10:48:37 PM
Post by: maddog on January 21, 2012, 10:57:26 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 21, 2012, 11:05:17 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 21, 2012, 11:07:44 PM
With 1500 you can get about any flavor you want. For 100% factory I love bushmaster. You can buy a killer upper and buy a lower and put them together and have a great gun. If you don't want to go that way, a 24" special varmint from bushmaster will fit you wants well.
+1 The Bushmaster Varminter is a true 1/2" AR. I haven't owned one in awhile since I started building my own. The only thing I didn't care for about it was the twist. They may have changed it by now but back then it wouldn't stabalize the 69gr bullets. I've smoked allot of Rochchucks with the Varminter.
Post by: maddog on January 21, 2012, 11:14:28 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 21, 2012, 11:26:07 PM
If you want varminter in the 24" with the 1:9 I would look into the 53g hpbt's from serria, thats what has shot well for me in rifles with the 1:9 twist.
Post by: FC on January 21, 2012, 11:40:31 PM
I have never got anything 53+ to shoot well in my 1:9's.
What do you consider "well"? My 24" 1:9 dpms barrel shoots 55 and 62 gr both well but so far it doesn't shoot anything lighter worth a damn.
Post by: addicted on January 21, 2012, 11:43:30 PM
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 21, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
I have never got anything 53+ to shoot well in my 1:9's.
What do you consider "well"? My 24" 1:9 dpms barrel shoots 55 and 62 gr both well but so far it doesn't shoot anything lighter worth a damn.
I want all my 25 cal or less rifles to shoot 3/4" or less. Most of the time I could only get around 1.5" groups with 55+ bullets. I tried it in about 4 rifle that I have had with the 1:9 twist. I could not get the heavy stuff to run in any of them so that is why I favor the 1:8". I have great luck running the heavy stuff threw rifles with the 1:8 I was running light bullets in my 1:9 and getting to many runners with the light bullets.
I expect all my rifles to group as follows
25 or less 3/4"
26-30 cal no mags 1"
all mags 1.5"
I am a bit picky and will sell a rifle if I cant get these results. Now I do play with about 10-15 loads before I sell them. Some rifle will drive tacks and others will not. Even if they are the same gun. I have had 3 win model 70's and only one shoots great. My first one, I have bought 2 other looking for another like the one I have and have sold both since. Both shot o.k but not good enough for me.
Post by: JJB11B on January 21, 2012, 11:59:11 PM
Post by: addicted on January 22, 2012, 12:01:13 AM
Post by: marlin on January 22, 2012, 12:44:31 AM
Post by: rebal69972 on January 22, 2012, 08:14:46 AM
Post by: blindpig on January 22, 2012, 08:23:35 AM
Post by: maddog on January 22, 2012, 09:06:33 AM
Post by: thinkingman on January 22, 2012, 09:38:06 AM
I have had two Rock River Varmints that would shoot 3/4" or better all day long with factory 77gr MatchKings.
Complete rifle with two-stage trigger for about a grand.
You really can't beat it.
There are plenty of RRA rifles on the line a Camp Perry with guys that know a little something about AR15 accuracy.